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The Journeyman

Welcome to the Spiked Out Podcast - your go-to for real stories, real people, and real insight from the wildland fire world. Brought to you by The Journeyman, we interview seasoned pros, share education, tips on getting certified, landing jobs, and making the most of the season. Whether you're already on the line or just getting started, we've got you covered. Tune in and get Spiked Out with us. 

  1. Sick vs Not Sick: Decisions That Saves Lives in the Wilderness

    4d ago

    Sick vs Not Sick: Decisions That Saves Lives in the Wilderness

    Two hours from the nearest hospital, “standard ER thinking” breaks fast. We’re joined by Dr. Miguel Pineda, an emergency physician and wilderness medicine fellowship trained doc, to talk about what actually matters when you’re doing EMS in austere environments like wildland fires, remote rescues, and rural transport corridors. We get into the decision skill that drives everything else: telling sick vs not sick early. From there we talk field priorities that hold up when you might lose an airway, run out of supplies, or wait on a helicopter. Dr. Pineda explains what he hopes to see from EMS crews in the woods, why a clean and confident call-ahead report helps the ER move faster, and how limited-resource work (including solo coverage in a border community) changes the way you lead, communicate, and improvise. Then we go practical on common fire line hazards: rattlesnake bites, scorpion stings, and venomous spider myths. You’ll hear what helps in the field (rings off, mark swelling with a time stamp, protect the limb) and what can seriously hurt patients (tourniquets, cutting, sucking venom, and other Hollywood fixes). We also talk anaphylaxis and why we’d rather you treat early with IM epinephrine than wait for a “perfect” picture, plus poison oak or poison ivy smoke exposure and how allergy meds and steroids can fit into a solid prehospital plan. If you work wildland fire EMS, wilderness medicine, or prehospital care, this one is built for you. Subscribe, share this with a teammate, and leave a review with your biggest take-home from the conversation. Find The Journeyman here: https://livetjm.com/ Find The Journeyman on Google Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pcampaignid=web_share Find The Journeyman on the Apple App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 0:00 The Reality Of Fireline Medicine 4:21 Small Town ER And Border Work 7:42 Sick Or Not Sick In The Woods 13:51 Improvised Ultrasound Gel In Heat 16:49 Snakebites Without The Hollywood Myths 25:55 Scorpions And Venomous Spider Truths 36:07 Anaphylaxis And Early Epinephrine 39:56 Poison Oak Smoke And Steroids

    43 min
  2. Checklists Won't Save Your REMS Team

    May 20

    Checklists Won't Save Your REMS Team

    You can tell who looks tough. You can't tell who will endure — and that gap is where fire crews break. In Part 2 of our conversation with John Hennessey — retired Air Force officer, former Booz Allen Hamilton program manager, and one of the architects of Dammeron Valley Fire Rescue — we follow the thread from special operations selection culture straight into the unforgiving reality of wildfire operations and modern fire service leadership. This half goes deep on what actually keeps firefighters alive and teams sharp: standards over hype, daily practice over vibes, and why complacency is the fastest way to get hurt or fall behind. What we cover: - Why "looking tough" tells you nothing — and why cadre still can't predict who quits on day one - The "false summit" trap, and treating every plateau as a reason to push harder - Earning credibility when you're leading experts who outclass you technically - What the Waldo Canyon and Black Forest fires teach about wind, ember storms, and structure density - Wildfire mitigation, Firewise assessments, and the home ignition zone details most residents miss - The real limits of structure protection when water and time run out - REMS team realities on remote terrain — scouting routes, staging smart, and building a PACE plan - Why checklists are not capability — and what "good" looks like when you're holding a patient overnight with no helicopter - The case for tighter REMS standards that measure performance, not shopping lists If you care about wildfire preparedness, structure protection, emergency medical response, or leadership under stress — this one's built for you. Find The Journeyman here: https://livetjm.com/ Find The Journeyman on Google Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pcampaignid=web_share Find The Journeyman on the Apple App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 0:00 Never Satisfied With The Status Quo 1:15 Why You Cannot Spot Quitters 5:45 Earning Credibility With Elite Teams 7:42 First Real Taste Of Fire Service 8:50 Waldo Canyon And Black Forest Reality 11:34 Firewise Home Ignition Zone Walkthroughs 16:16 Forsyth Fire Night One Lessons 18:20 REMS Planning For Remote Rescues 26:52 Train Daily And Build Real Standards 36:20 Retirement Goals And Vision 2030 39:23 Final Thanks And Wrap Up

    40 min
  3. The One Thing Every Wildland Fire Department Gets Wrong

    May 13

    The One Thing Every Wildland Fire Department Gets Wrong

    Building a REMS team isn't optional anymore — it's how you keep your wildland firefighters alive when extraction goes sideways. And most departments wait until it's too late. In this episode, John Hennessey — retired Air Force officer, former Booz Allen Hamilton program manager, and one of the architects of Dammeron Valley Fire Rescue — breaks down how to actually launch a Rapid Extraction Module Support (REMS) team without the budget, the bureaucracy, or the decade most departments think it takes. What we cover: - The "speed of need" framework that forces decisions instead of endless planning - How to write a statement of need that gets grants funded - Why cost-schedule-performance thinking from defense programs works for fire service - Setting measurable response time targets — and proving you hit them - Building a fire and EMS training pipeline when you can't hire certified people - How Greg McKeown and Liz Wisemans "Multipliers" leadership model wins in volunteer fire departments - How a "Volunteer Firefighters Needed" sign on a mailbox turned into one of Southern Utah's most operationally serious volunteer fire departments 📌 If this episode gave you something useful — subscribe, drop a comment with the one lesson you're taking back to your crew, and share it with a fire service leader who needs to hear it. Find The Journeyman here: https://livetjm.com/ Find The Journeyman on Google Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pcampaignid=web_share Find The Journeyman on the Apple App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 0:00 The Mailbox Sign That Started It 3:00 Air Force Roots And Booz Allen Lessons 8:00 Turning A Volunteer Crew Into A System 15:58 Multipliers Versus Oxygen Thieves 22:35 Cost Schedule Performance For Fire Rescue 26:23 Building Utah’s First REMS Team 30:58 Speed Of Need And Modern Gear

    33 min
  4. Three Guys Tackle the Biggest Issue Nobody's Addressing In Wildland Fire

    May 5

    Three Guys Tackle the Biggest Issue Nobody's Addressing In Wildland Fire

    Wildland fire admin is still way too hard. Between scattered job boards, paper CTRs, certs in three folders, and a new login for every crew you've ever rostered with — there's no reason it should still feel this messy. In this rapid-fire FAQ, we sit down to clear up exactly what The Journeyman is, what you get with a free wildland firefighter profile, and why we refuse to charge people just to look at jobs. We also get into the parts most folks don't expect: trainings and events, season tracking, digital shift tickets, crew time reports, and an offline mode that still works when you're a hundred miles from cell service. Then we tackle the questions we hear nonstop from firefighters and business owners: – Can other companies see my roster? – Are you selling my data? – What's public, what's private, and who controls it? – How does multi rostering actually work? – What does the premium profile unlock for incident tracking? We walk through how permissions work, why incognito mode puts visibility back in the user's hands, and how phantom profiles let companies track personnel without forcing every firefighter into the platform. For business owners, we break down how The Journeyman functions as full wildland fire business management software — certifications, documents, equipment, inventory, incidents, and cleaner handoffs when a manager is covering multiple fires or an owner goes down mid-season. Continuity matters, and the patchwork of spreadsheets and group texts isn't cutting it. If you've got questions about anything we covered, shoot us an email, give us a call, or text us — text is probably the fastest. We'll get you taken care of. Visit Our Website https://livetjm.com/ Find The Journeyman App here: Google Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pli=1 Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 #WildlandFire #WildlandFirefighter #TheJourneyman #FireSeason #WildlandFireJobs #FireBusiness #WildlandFireApp [00:00:00] Free Profile And Job Board [00:04:40] More Than Hiring Connections [00:10:16] Multi Rostering And Incognito Mode [00:20:42] Free Versus Premium Firefighter [00:26:14] When A Manager Goes Down [00:31:11] Competing Tools And AI Onboarding [00:36:47] Checklists Expansion And Wrap Up

    39 min
  5. What Happens When You Train Rope Rescue With No Anchors?

    Apr 7

    What Happens When You Train Rope Rescue With No Anchors?

    Training rope rescue in the Utah desert sounds extreme — until you realize it's the best way to actually learn. No trees, limited anchors, and unforgiving terrain force you to build clean, redundant systems and understand why they work. That's exactly why we keep coming back to Hanksville for our annual REMS training with Prevail Rescue Solutions. In this episode, we break down what a full week of desert rope rescue training looks like on the ground — from day-one cobwebs to day-four momentum — and why the night slot canyon run has become our favorite confidence test for the whole crew. 🪢 IN THIS EPISODE: Why limited anchors make better riggers Night slot canyon travel as a team-building tool How reps on shoddy anchors actually build real confidence Patient packaging details that matter when it's dark and everyone's tired What we like (and question) about the KOBUS RollUP Litter Marlow Tactical rope impressions and strength talk How multi-day scenarios sharpen communication and leadership What we're tracking from NWSA and WEMS conferences VIPER ordering changes and REMS typing questions heading into fire season Why The Journeyman is more than a recruiting tool — and how teams use it for resource tracking, shift tickets, and season history 🔥 CONNECT WITH PREVAIL RESCUE SOLUTIONS: You can reach Brian and the Prevail Rescue team directly through the app. 📲 SUBSCRIBE for weekly wildland fire content. If this episode helped you think differently about training, gear, or the coming season, share it with your crew and leave a review so more wildland firefighters and medical teams can find the show. Find The Journeyman App here: Google Play Store:  play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pli=1 Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 Visit Our Website livetjm.com/home KOBUS RollUP Litter https://www.narescue.com/ Hill People Gear https://www.hillpeoplegear.com/ Prevail Rescue Solutions https://www.prevailrescue.com/ [00:00:00] Why Train Where There Are No Trees [00:03:55] Testing The COBUS Litter System [00:06:27] New Rope Options And Strength [00:14:52] Conferences And Big Industry Changes [00:23:10] Track Your Season Then Get Back To Work

    24 min
  6. The $40K Letter Every Wildfire Contractor Fears (And How To Avoid It)

    Mar 31

    The $40K Letter Every Wildfire Contractor Fears (And How To Avoid It)

    That sinking feeling when a state letter says you owe tens of thousands of dollars is not rare, it is the hidden tax on running a small business across state lines. We sit down with the Caputo Group to unpack why wildfire contractors and mobile EMS teams get hit so hard by multi-state payroll compliance, workers’ compensation requirements, HR law changes, and safety regulations. When the work is dangerous and time-sensitive, you should not be forced to choose between guessing and paying attorney rates just to understand basic admin. You will also hear why being present at industry events like NWSA matters for education and advocacy, plus why transparency on cost and a non-pushy onboarding process can make or break trust. If you are tired of admin stealing time from training, operations, and growth, this conversation gives you a clear framework for evaluating payroll and HR outsourcing options. Subscribe, share this with a business owner who needs it, and leave a review with the biggest compliance question you want answered next. Find The Journeyman App here: Google Play Store:  play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pli=1 Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 Visit Our Website livetjm.com/home Find Caputo Group here: https://www.caputo-group.com/ [00:00:00] When You Are Not Sure [00:03:44] Multi State Rules And Surprise Bills [00:06:22] What A PEO Actually Is [00:15:52] PEO Versus Payroll Providers [00:21:33] Why They Show Up At NWSA [00:25:33] Transparency On Cost And Support [00:31:51] Free Quotes And Final Takeaways

    33 min
  7. What Does Better Wildland Medical Care Cost And Who Decides It

    Mar 24

    What Does Better Wildland Medical Care Cost And Who Decides It

    John of Backcountry Medics gets specific about capability, not just labels. What’s the real operational difference between Type 1 ALS and Type 2 ALS? Why does vehicle extrication keep coming up when we talk about firefighter fatality risk from auto accidents and cardiac events? We also dig into why assumptions like “the local structure department can handle it” can fall apart in remote wildland settings where time, tools, and staffing are never guaranteed. From there, we zoom out to what actually raises the bar: better MedL education, more transparency and accountability across contractors, and smarter planning between REMS teams so complementary gear and staffing show up when a single patient turns into three. We swap hard earned lessons from long field care and backcountry rope rescue, where lightweight systems and real experience beat overloaded packs and textbook answers. If you care about REMS, wildland fire medical care, UTV based response, rope rescue, or incident medical planning, this one is for you. Subscribe, share this with a teammate, and leave a review so more people ordering and delivering care can find it. Find Backcountry Medics here: https://backcountrymedics.org/ Find Backcountry Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/backcountry_medics?igsh=MTZsMTB3ZnNyMzgxMQ%3D%3D Find The Journeyman App here: Google Play Store:  play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.livetjm.thejourneyman&pli=1 Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/tjm-the-journeyman/id6503902863 Visit Our Website livetjm.com/home [00:00:00] The Viper Transition Problem [00:07:59] Why NWSA Conference Matters [00:15:07] Real Rescues And Rope Systems [00:18:03] Staffing Standards And Team Coordination [00:19:59] Hiring Bar And Where To Apply

    21 min
  8. The New DEA "Thing" And What It Means For Wildland Fire EMS

    Mar 17

    The New DEA "Thing" And What It Means For Wildland Fire EMS

    A firefighter gets crushed by a falling tree miles from a road. A medic knows exactly how to control the pain and protect the patient’s body from spiraling stress, but the medication that makes it possible can’t legally cross the next state line. That’s not a hypothetical, it’s the operational problem we’re staring at after a new DEA interstate rule tightened how controlled substances can travel with EMS teams. We sit down with Joe Decker from Remote Medical Rescue and Dan Blaul from All Terrain Rescue to explain how REMS teams support wildland fire operations, why remote rescue is fundamentally different from city EMS, and what “hours of patient care in the woods” really looks like. We unpack the rule change, the cost and brick and mortar hurdles tied to multi state DEA registration, and why rapid deployments across the West don’t fit neatly into the current compliance model. Then we get blunt about consequences: pain management, ketamine, narcotics, and benzodiazepines are not luxuries when you’re packaging a femur fracture, treating a seizure far from a hospital, or managing critical procedures in an austere environment. We also talk about moral injury for providers forced to watch suffering they could normally relieve, and why this could push the standard of care backward for firefighter safety and patient outcomes. If you’re a firefighter, medic, medical director, or someone who cares about wildfire medical response, listen, share this with your crew, and help raise the volume with decision makers. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what change would protect patients fastest? Find the article here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6301399/ Find The Journeyman here: https://livetjm.com/ Find Minuteman EMS here: https://www.minutemanems.com/ Find Remote Medical Rescue here: https://www.remotemedicalrescue.com/ Find All Terrain Rescue here: https://www.allterrainrescue.org/ Blog 1 https://www.livetjm.com/blog/LIS4U8mscxKpEjHicSGq Blog 2 https://www.livetjm.com/blog/7NQcizXnQrwTkJJrmaFe [00:00:00] Moral Injury From Untreated Pain [00:03:00] What REMS Teams Actually Do [00:06:10] The New DEA Interstate Rule [00:09:55] When Pain Control Prevents Death [00:12:25] Real World Scenarios Without Narcotics [00:16:12] Why Fixing This Takes Time [00:20:40] How To Help And Where To Connect

    21 min

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Welcome to the Spiked Out Podcast - your go-to for real stories, real people, and real insight from the wildland fire world. Brought to you by The Journeyman, we interview seasoned pros, share education, tips on getting certified, landing jobs, and making the most of the season. Whether you're already on the line or just getting started, we've got you covered. Tune in and get Spiked Out with us. 

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