Split Zone Duo: College Football Podcast

Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner
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An independent college football podcast that covers the whole sport, led by Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner. Free episodes each week (twice per week in season), plus frequent subscriber episodes. Featuring co-host emeritus Steven Godfrey and friends. www.splitzoneduo.com

  1. 15H AGO

    The Many Angles of NDSU's Jump to FBS

    The greatest program in FCS is moving to the Mountain West, effective this upcoming season. North Dakota State won 10 of the past 15 FCS national titles and decided to try something new. It’s a huge move, giving FBS a new contender for the Group of 6 spot in the Playoff and reshaping the competitive pecking order in FCS. But we’ve still got many questions to talk through: * Why now? NDSU had batted around this idea for years * Does the money make sense? (NDSU probably wouldn’t be doing it if it didn’t, but the additional expenses will be millions per year) * Why the Mountain West and not the new Pac-12? * How good will the Bison be right away? * Is it ever right to be bored of success? * Is it time to update our priors on how hard it is for teams to successfully leap from FCS to FBS? * TRIVIA: Which seven states still don’t have an FBS team? Also, we talk about the college elements of the Super Bowl and Bobby Hauck’s very brief retirement from coaching. Producer: Anthony Vito Thanks to our partners, Homefield and Nokian Tyres. Get a lot more of this show by becoming a paid subscriber. By no means do we stop talking about college football in the offseason. We take the opportunity to get creative and bring subscribers all sorts of deep dives on CFB history, the coaching carousel, Xs and Os, and plenty more. Help us make the show and get lots more of it by becoming a paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

    55 min

  2. FEB 2

    The Big Ten's Empire Runs into Resistance

    The Big Ten’s commissioner, Tony Petitti, spent much of this season trying to do two things: 1) Expand the Playoff to his liking, and 2) Get his member schools to sign a big private capital deal. Neither happened, and the conference now appears to have wasted a lot of time off the field even as it was winning a third-straight national championship on it. Matt Brown of the tremendous Extra Points newsletter and document library joins Alex and Richard to talk about these misadventures, in particular: * How Petitti has made himself the sport’s main bureaucratic villain, taking a role that SEC commissioner Greg Sankey may have seen as his birthright * Why a lot of the Big Ten wanted this private capital deal * Why it didn’t ultimately come together, despite those wishes * The one actual good reason for wanting the deal, explained by Matt * Why Rutgers’ finances are so bad You can read Matt several times every week by subscribing to his Extra Points newsletter. We are both happy subscribers, along with most conference commissioners, countless athletic directors, and anyone else who cares about being informed on the off-field movements shaping college football. SZD paying subscribers will hear a lot more from Matt later this week He’ll join us on a subscriber episode to discuss Playoff non-expansion, the state of the football calendar, the NCAA’s stalled (?) efforts to get an antitrust exemption from Congress, the eligibility crisis in multiple sports, the race to fund excess NIL money on top of the House settlement, and the topic that’s always on all of our minds: basketball video game licensing. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

    25 min
  3. CFB Time Capsule Review: What We Learned from a Stunning 2025

    JAN 30

    CFB Time Capsule Review: What We Learned from a Stunning 2025

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.com Before the season, Godfrey, Richard, and Alex made a bunch of predictions and buried them in a time capsule. Time to dig it up! What did everyone learn over the course of the season? How were our prior opinions challenged? Where we got things wildly wrong, was that bad luck (Penn State) or the sign of missing something much deeper (arguably Clemson)? Let’s review in detail: * How each FBS conference met or didn’t meet our expectations * Conference USA and the MAC will just never make sense * The shocking collapses of Penn State and Clemson and the still-pretty-surprising three-loss season that Texas had * Godfrey’s almost legendary spotting of a North Texas QB * What will we think about in a different way heading into 2026? Producer: Anthony Vito. This episode is for paid subscribers, but everyone can hear a free preview You can become a paid subscriber here. Interested in hearing more about how our podcast is doing? We’ve got a “state of the union for you The short answer: Things are good. The longer answer: Read this letter from us to the audience.

    18 min
  4. Our 2025 College Football Awards Special

    JAN 29

    Our 2025 College Football Awards Special

    It’s time to review the 2025 college football season, with our annual awards special, the Zonies. Rodger Sherman joins Alex and Richard to dole out some important CFB honors for this past season, including: * Power conference team of the year * Non-power team of the year * Moment of the year * Proof of concept of the year * Minority Coach of the Week of the Year * Bryan Harsin Award for Forestalling the Inevitable * The Podcaster’s Player Award It’s an awards show, but it’s mainly a walk down memory lane of the things we enjoyed most about the season. Thanks for listening. Producer: Anthony Vito Also, we briefly discuss the Olympics at the end of the episode. You’ll be able to read all kinds of Rodger stories on the Olympics at his newsletter. SZD doesn’t stop in the offseason The opposite, if anything. We use these months for all sorts of creative projects that are designed to appeal to people who love college football and want to learn more about it while having a good time. History projects! Sports business! Roster moves! We’ll do all of it. (Alex would even say that his favorite subscriber shows are the ones we have time to do out of football season.) We’d love to have you: Support Split Zone Duo’s sponsors * nokiantyres.com/szd * homefieldapparel.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

    1h 34m

  5. JAN 22

    End of Season Vibescast: How We're Feeling About CFB

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.com Welcome to the rest of the college football calendar, the part when games aren’t actually being played. In this quick subscriber episode, Alex and Richard debrief on the state of their CFB fandom and talk about what’s both good and not good right now. Producer: Anthony Vito. This show is for paid subscribers Thanks so much to the thousands of people (!) who subscribe to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about. Thanks so much and here’s the subscribe link. Also, subscribe to our YouTube channel! That one’s free, though:

    8 min
  6. National Championship Hurry-Up: Hoosier

    JAN 20

    National Championship Hurry-Up: Hoosier

    The best turnaround in the history of college football concludes with a 16-0 season and a national championship. Richard and Alex talk about Indiana’s 27-21 win over Miami, what led up to it, and where these programs go next. SZD doesn’t stop in the offseason The opposite, if anything. We use these months for all sorts of creative projects that are designed to appeal to people who love college football and want to learn more about it while having a good time. History projects! Sports business! Roster moves! We’ll do all of it. (Alex would even say that his favorite subscriber shows are the ones we have time to do out of football season.) We’d love to have you: Thanks to our sponsors, and congrats to the ones that are based in Indiana * 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD * Shop Indiana title gear at Homefield * Nokian Tyres: https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd * Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL Producer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

    50 min

  7. JAN 16

    Scheme School: Miami vs. Indiana, Feat. Michael Felder

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.com THIS IS A SUBSCRIBER EPISODE: Thanks so much to the thousands of people (!) who subscribe to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about. Thanks so much and here’s the subscribe link. The great Michael Felder joins Richard for a “Scheme School” episode, diving deeper into the Xs and Os of the Miami-Indiana national title game. * How Indiana avoids having any bad concepts, ever * Indiana’s tight end is the most important person in the world * The familiarity between Miami’s DC and Curt Cignetti * Are we sure Indiana can block those dudes up front? * Why everyone here feels pretty good about the Hoosiers, whose defensive identity involves stopping scrambles like the one Carson Beck used to beat Ole Miss in the semifinal And more! Producer: Anthony Vito

    15 min

  8. JAN 15

    Miami vs. Indiana: The Big Preview

    Richard and Alex look ahead to the College Football Playoff National Championship, with some thoughts on the schematics and then the unique circumstances surrounding Miami and Indiana. In this episode: * 1:32: Our thoughts on the city of Miami * 9:55: Brief Xs and Os preview of Indiana vs. Miami: Could Miami sack Fernando Mendoza a bunch and still lose? What about the big challenge in front of Indiana’s secondary, facing Malachi Toney? * 30:17: Narrative preview and the significance of the title game: The U is back! Except we’re not supposed to talk about that! Also, Indiana (rat poison alert) is on the verge of a best-team-ever argument. * 43:17: Why the playoff should not be expanded further and why the Big Ten Conference’s malignant behavior must be stopped Further reading: CBS Sports’ Brandon Marcello on the current negotiations about Playoff expansion, pitting the Big Ten against the SEC. More listening for paid subscribers! * Alex and Rodger Sherman’s deep dive into the lessons of Curt Cignetti’s rise, drawing on research from a 40-year coaching career, is out now * Coming Friday, a special episode of SCHEME SCHOOL, featuring Richard and guest Michael Felder going deeper on the scheme of this game. Subscribe. Producer: Anthony Vito Full details here on the festivities around the game. * 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD * Nokian Tyres: https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd * Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

    52 min
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An independent college football podcast that covers the whole sport, led by Richard Johnson and Alex Kirshner. Free episodes each week (twice per week in season), plus frequent subscriber episodes. Featuring co-host emeritus Steven Godfrey and friends. www.splitzoneduo.com

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