Sub-Summit

Doug Sandler

At the crossroads of innovation, growth, and connection, this podcast takes you inside SubSummit 2026—the premier gathering for leaders shaping the future of subscription, membership, loyalty, and recurring revenue. From the months leading up to the conference through the live energy of the event and the insights that follow, each episode delivers conversations with the brands, solution providers, and thought leaders redefining customer relationships and building the next generation of commerce. With exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes access, and real-time takeaways from Kansas City, listeners will hear the strategies, partnerships, and bold ideas emerging from an industry that touches the majority of U.S. consumers and fuels a multi-trillion-dollar economy. Whether you’re a fast-scaling brand, an innovative solution provider, or a leader looking to deepen customer loyalty and lifetime value, this podcast is your front-row seat to the connections, conversations, and breakthroughs that make SubSummit the place where the future of recurring revenue takes shape—and the event you’ll want to experience in person.

  1. 2d ago

    Eric Steckling: Building Ollie, A Gimmick-free Oral Care Brand (hosted by Eric Bandholz)

    Building a product people love isn't always enough, especially if they never need to buy it again. Eric shares why he shifted from durable grooming tools to replenishable oral care, and how embracing constant experimentation helped him uncover bigger opportunities. In this episode, Host of E-Commerce Conversations Eric Bandholz and CEO of Ollie Eric Steckling discuss: Building durable vs. essential consumable product businessesThe "at-bats" approach to product innovationRecognizing distractions versus real opportunitiesUsing customer behavior to validate ideasScaling through subscriptions, content, and retail  Key Takeaways: A durable product can become a growth challenge when customers rarely need to buy it again.Treat every product launch as an affordable experiment, giving yourself more chances to discover what truly resonates with customers.Customer opinions are valuable, but purchases are the ultimate measure of demand.Knowing when to walk away from an idea can be just as important as knowing when to keep improving it.The strongest brands don't rely on a single growth channel; they build momentum by combining great products, compelling content, subscriptions, paid acquisition, and eventually retail. “As long as you're making changes, as long as you know what to do next, then I think you need to keep going.” - Eric Steckling About Eric Steckling and Ollie: Eric Steckling is a bootstrapped direct-to-consumer founder behind Brio, a men’s grooming brand known for durable trimmers, and Ollie, an oral care brand focused on high-performance, everyday essentials like toothpaste, mouthwash, and whitening strips. He’s obsessed with product development, creative marketing (especially short-form video), and using constant “at-bats” to turn ideas into hero products that drive real customer lifetime value. Connect with Eric Steckling and Ollie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-steckling-95955131/  Website: https://olliesmile.com/ Connect with Eric Bandholz, host of ECommerce Conversations: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbandholz/?hl=en  Website: https://www.bandholz.com  Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ecommerce-conversations/id874457373  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21- 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Eric Steckling: Building Ollie, A Gimmick-free Oral Care Brand (hosted by Eric Bandholz)
  2. Jul 8

    Startup CPG Podcast founder Daniel Scharff and Former CEO of Brightland Todd Hoffman

    Startup CPG founder Daniel Scharff sits down with former Brightland CEO Todd Hoffman to unpack how a simple pantry staple became a premium DTC phenomenon. They break down emotional branding, gifting flywheels, subscription behavior, and the hard truths of e-commerce unit economics. In this episode, Startup CPG Podcast founder Daniel Scharff and Former CEO of Brightland Todd Hoffman discuss: Daniel Scharff’s perspective on DTC vs retail in food and beverageTodd Hoffman’s journey from Chloe’s to BrightlandHow Brightland became a premium, giftable pantry brandSubscription behavior and “habit-forming” CPG productsChannel roles, unit economics, and scaling from DTC into retail  Key Takeaways: Pairing a strong community voice (like Startup CPG) with an experienced operator creates a powerful lens on what actually works in modern CPG.Each channel- Amazon, DTC site, B2B, retail- must have a clearly defined job.Subscription models only sustain when the product naturally fits into a recurring, predictable habit in the customer’s life.Scaling from early adopters to the broader market increases acquisition costs and operational complexity, demanding disciplined financial thinking alongside founder ambition. “We used to joke around that our marketing budget was smaller than the mayonnaise fund that Unilever had.”  - Daniel Scharff About Daniel Scharff and Startup CPG Podcast: Daniel Scharff is the Founder and CEO of Startup CPG, the world’s largest community of emerging consumer packaged goods (CPG) brands. Through Startup CPG, he helps entrepreneurs with free resources, media coverage, and events across 20 cities. He also hosts The Startup CPG Podcast, a top 0.5% globally ranked podcast featuring brand stories, grocery buyers, and industry experts.  Connect with Daniel Scharff: Website: https://startupcpg.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danscharff/  About Todd Hoffman and Brightland: As COO of Brightland, Todd Hoffman partnered with the Founder & CEO to define and execute the company’s next phase of growth. He rebuilt the operating model to support scale, led cross-functional planning across S&OP, finance, and commercialization, and improved unit economics through supplier restructuring, packaging and logistics optimization, and manufacturing changes.  Connect with Todd Hoffman and Brightland: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-hoffman-97aa6a4/    Website: https://brightland.co/  Connect with Nick Trueman: Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/winning-with-shopify/id1373351568  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/winningwithshopifypodcast/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@winningwithshopify  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@winningwithshopify  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21- 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Startup CPG Podcast founder Daniel Scharff and Former CEO of Brightland Todd Hoffman
  3. Jul 1

    What Your Payment Declines Are Trying to Tell You — and How to Listen

    With payment failures, most businesses see lost revenue—Payway sees a hidden opportunity. In this episode, you’ll learn how to turn declines into recovered revenue, stronger subscriber retention, and a smarter payment strategy powered by data. In this episode, Payway EVP Kim Miller and CTO Dan Nadeau discuss: Anatomy of a card-not-present transactionTypes of declines and what “do not honor” really meansAccount updater and maintaining clean card dataSmart retry strategies and payment recovery partnersBalancing fraud prevention, interchange fees, and revenue growth  Key Takeaways: Declined payments aren’t just a nuisance; they can be a rich source of revenue recovery, customer insight, and improved subscriber experience.Understanding which declines are genuinely retriable versus permanent is critical to building an effective recovery strategy.Proactive tools exist to reduce recurring declines and protect revenue.Blindly retrying failed payments is outdated; structured, data-driven retry strategies with specialized recovery partners deliver better results, faster.Payment performance directly impacts acquisition costs, churn, and interchange rates; treating payments as a strategic data asset, not just an expense line, unlocks meaningful growth.  “Every decline is a churn, and that's a lost customer.” - Kim Miller “If you are not doing account updater, then you need to do it, because it's just absolutely mandatory for a recurring payment system.” - Dan Nadeau About Kim Miller, Dan Nadeau, and Payway: Kim Miller is a seasoned professional with experience in strategy, leadership, management, team building, marketing, sales, and customer success. My career began in advertising, evolved to marketing, which led to business development, which resulted in my current role as an executive. She is always looking to learn something new, whether it's industry-related, work-related, or otherwise. This way, she is never bored and gets to talk and engage with interesting people from all walks of life. Dan Nadeau is the Chief Technical Officer at Payway, a payments SaaS company focused on subscription and card-not-present transactions. In the Sub Summit Podcast, he explains how payment flows, decline codes, fraud signals, and tools like account updater and payment recovery can significantly improve authorization rates and reduce revenue loss in recurring billing systems. He also highlights how better payment data and analytics help merchants increase approvals and customer retention. Payway offers a SaaS platform that processes payments for businesses that rely on recurring payments. With advanced fraud protection, payment recovery, and seamless WooCommerce integration, Payway optimizes transactions while ensuring security and efficiency. Connect with Kim, Dan, and Payway: Website: https://www.payway.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisiskimmiller/ & https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-nadeau-2997429/  Connect with Nick Trueman: Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/winning-with-shopify/id1373351568  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/winningwithshopifypodcast/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@winningwithshopify  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@winningwithshopify  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21- 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    What Your Payment Declines Are Trying to Tell You — and How to Listen
  4. Jun 24

    Wowzitude Founder Susan Black: Building a 3 Million–Member Travel Community

    A live virtual travel company went from a single Zoom walk for one lonely mom to nearly 3 million participants worldwide—powered by just three full-time humans and a stack of AI tools. In this episode, you’ll hear how a lean team, authentic experiences, and smart automation turned a COVID catalyst into a thriving global community. In this episode, Nick and Wowzitude Founder Susan Black discuss: Origin story of the virtual travel platformCOVID as a catalyst for tour guides and audiencesBuilding authentic, interactive live travel experiences at scaleUsing AI to personalize onboarding, support, and engagementRunning a lean team and constantly experimenting with AI tools Key Takeaways: A deeply personal problem, like helping an isolated parent during lockdown, can become the spark for a scalable business model that serves millions.Live experiences with real human guides can create a powerful community.Strategic use of AI for onboarding, conversational support, and content workflows can enable a very small team to operate at a massive scale.Treating AI as a true collaborator unlocks more value than treating it like a simple search engine. “I didn't do it because I saw that there was a market need or a niche. I did it because during Covid, my mother was in lockdown and was going a little crazy as an older adult…” - Susan Black About the guest, Susan Black and her company, Wowzitude: Susan Black is the visionary behind Wowzitude, where she’s transforming how we experience travel. With over 40 years of leadership in the travel industry, Susan has fused her passion for exploration with cutting-edge technology to create live, interactive tours that connect people to the world in extraordinary ways. Under Susan’s leadership, Wowzitude has grown into a global platform reaching 1.2 million subscribers through partnerships with museums, alumni associations, travel agents, and more. Her innovative approach not only inspires travel but also fosters community and cultural connection, proving that virtual experiences can lead to real-world journeys. Connect with Susan and Wowzitude: Website: https://wowzitude.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanblackassociates/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susansocial/?hl=en  Connect with Nick Trueman: Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/winning-with-shopify/id1373351568  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/winningwithshopifypodcast/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@winningwithshopify  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@winningwithshopify  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21- 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Simply put, if you’re in subscription, membership, or recurring revenue, you’re at SubSummit. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Wowzitude Founder Susan Black: Building a 3 Million–Member Travel Community
  5. Jun 17

    Fraud Deflect CEO Scott Adams: Winning the War on Chargebacks and “Friendly Fraud”

    Most “fraud” on your statement isn’t a hacker; it’s your own customers hitting the dispute button. In this episode, you’ll learn how a veteran merchant‑turned‑founder built a company to stop chargebacks at the source and keep subscription and e‑commerce brands from losing their ability to process payments. In this episode, Doug and Fraud Deflect CEO Scott Adams discuss: What chargebacks are and how the dispute ecosystem worksFriendly fraud, first‑party misuse, and subscription businessesBuilding Fraud Deflect from real merchant pain pointsWorking with Visa, Mastercard, PayPal, and alternative paymentsEntrepreneurship, co‑founder marriage, and avoiding burnout Key Takeaways: The chargeback system is heavily weighted toward the cardholder, so merchants must proactively defend their revenue instead of reacting after money disappears.“Friendly fraud” and first‑party misuse are often more dangerous than classic stolen‑card fraud because they’re harder to detect and easier for customers to justify.Deep understanding of chargeback rules, thresholds, and card‑brand programs can save you from suddenly losing your merchant account.Listening to merchants will help solve profitable problems and build tools that actually get adopted.Clear communication, defined roles, and intentional boundaries are critical when your co‑founder is also your spouse, and just as important for any startup team. “What my co-founder and I started Fraud Deflect around was to bring solutions together and create our own solutions that help the merchant not only beat those chargebacks but ideally save the sale before it even gets to that point.” - Scott Adams About the guest, Scott Adams and his company, Fraud Deflect: Scott E. Adams, Fraud Deflect’s co-founder, is well known and respected in the online business community, the card-not-present payment community, and the affiliate and Internet marketing community. He successfully combines exceptional IT skills and cutting-edge anti-fraud mechanics to solve problems and quickly improve a company’s ROI. Scott learned he was an entrepreneur and fraud fighter when, early in his career, he grew a small $5M direct response company that was losing their merchant account to a company with revenue of $25M annually and a healthy chargeback rate of 0.7%. During his decade leading that company, He created one of the earliest affiliate metrics tracking systems and developed his own proprietary anti-fraud software. Connect with Scott and Fraud Deflect: Website: https://frauddeflect.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/speakerscotteadams/  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21- 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Simply put, if you’re in subscription, membership, or recurring revenue, you’re at SubSummit. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Fraud Deflect CEO Scott Adams: Winning the War on Chargebacks and “Friendly Fraud”
  6. Jun 10

    Building a Subscription Empire: Battlbox & Good Ranchers Share How They Did It

    Two very different brands—survival gear and premium meat—used the same playbook to build massive subscription businesses: obsessive focus on quality, ruthless clarity on their ideal customer, and relentless work on retention. In this episode, they unpack the real levers behind 60k+ subscribers, multi‑million dollar recurring revenue, and long-term loyalty that survives rising costs and shifting ad platforms. In this episode, Nick, Ben Spell (Good Ranchers CEO), and John Roman (Battlbox CEO) discuss: Launching and evolving subscription-first business modelsQuality is the foundation for retention and LTVFinding and focusing on the right customer personaChurn prevention, win-back strategies, and feedback loopsTech stack choices, A/B testing, and subscription infrastructure Key Takeaways: Starting with a single, subscription-only product can force clarity on positioning and economics before expanding into one-time purchases and new channels.When the product quality is truly superior, retention marketing becomes far more effective than discount-driven tactics.Treat subscription platforms as revenue enablers, not just expenses.Proactive churn management, through timing, outreach, and listening to cancellation reasons, can be more powerful than pouring budget into acquisition.Clearly defined customer personas drive better ad choices, partnership strategies, and a healthier lifetime value. “You can trick people into buying things, but if you don't have a quality product, they're not going to subscribe, and they're not going to keep buying.” -Ben Spell About Ben Spell and Good Ranchers: Founded by Ben and Corley Spell to connect people to honest, quality food. By sourcing all meat from local, independent U.S. farms, they bring remarkable quality and real community back to the American table. Connect with Ben: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benspell  Website: https://www.goodranchers.com/  About John Roman and BattlBox: John Roman is an experienced D2C and B2B strategist currently serving as CEO at BattlBox. Battlbox is your monthly subscription for hand-picked outdoor, survival, EDC, and cool gear chosen for you to carry, use, or add to your emergency stash. Connect with John: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-roman  Website: https://www.battlbox.com/  Connect with Nick Trueman: Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/winning-with-shopify/id1373351568  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/winningwithshopifypodcast/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@winningwithshopify  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@winningwithshopify  Join our newsletter: https://wwspodcast.com/  SubSummit will be at Nashville City Center from June 21 - 23, 2027. Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here: https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61 About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of subscription, membership, and recurring revenue enterprises, direct-to-consumer startups, and active investors. Leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Building a Subscription Empire: Battlbox & Good Ranchers Share How They Did It
  7. Jun 5

    Built on Trust: How Swanson Vitamins is Making D2C Subscription-First

    A 56-year-old wellness brand is rewriting its direct-to-consumer playbook, turning subscriptions from a buried feature into the core of its customer experience. Discover how Swanson is using personalization, internal culture change, and a deep trust with customers to double subscriptions and build true relationship commerce. In this episode, Doug, Erin Del Ponte, and Meghan Carlson discuss: Legacy D2C brand evolving into subscription-firstReframing subscription as a brand experience, not a transactionSite, naming, and payment changes to reduce frictionInternal alignment, education, and marketingData-driven, personalized subscription growth and lifetime value  Key Takeaways: A strong subscription program should feel like an extension of the brand.Moving beyond “set it and forget it” requires continuous optimization based on changing trends, features, and customer behavior.Internal education and buy-in are critical to confidently communicating the value of subscriptions.Frictionless enrollment, flexible management, and modern payment options all contribute directly to higher adoption and retention.The long game of subscription success is lifetime value: using data, personalization, and cross-functional alignment to deepen relationships over time. “When we think about subscription, it's not just a transaction; it's an extension of how we come to life as a brand.” - Erin Del Ponte Check out the featured companies: Swanson Vitamins here: https://www.swansonvitamins.com/ OrderGroove: http://www.ordergroove.com/  About the guest, Erin Del Ponte: Erin Del Ponte is a senior marketing executive with over a decade of experience driving growth for consumer brands across CPG, DTC, and eCommerce channels. Specializing in omnichannel marketing, brand strategy, digital transformation, and global expansion, she has successfully led marketing organizations for both high-growth startups and established brands, delivering double-digit revenue growth, increasing customer lifetime value, and strengthening brand equity.  Connect with Erin Del Ponte: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erindelponte/  About the guest, Meghan Carlson: Meghan Carlson is a customer success and account management professional with a strong background in client services, project execution, and relationship management. As Manager of Customer Success at Ordergroove, she partners with clients to drive business growth, optimize customer experiences, and deliver measurable results through strategic account leadership. She also holds an MBA with a concentration in Marketing from The University of Texas at Dallas.  Connect with Meghan Carlson:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghanscarlson/  SubSummit will be at Nashville  City Center from June 21 - 23, 2027 Join the waitlist HERE: https://subsummit.com/#waitlist  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here:  https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Simply put, if you’re in subscription, membership, or recurring revenue, you’re at SubSummit. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Built on Trust: How Swanson Vitamins is Making D2C Subscription-First
  8. May 5

    Logan Karam: Inside Fabletics’ Playbook for Real-World AI Adoption

    Artificial intelligence isn’t just changing technology—it’s redefining how work gets done. In this episode, you’ll hear from Fabletics’ AI Program Director, Logan Karam, as she previews her upcoming SubSummit session and shares how her team is turning AI from a buzzword into real, measurable business impact. In this episode, Doug and Logan Karam discuss: Surface-level vs. deep AI adoption in organizationsBlending structured and unstructured data with AI in workflowsLeadership, culture, and task forces for AI enablementWhy tool access and training alone don’t drive adoptionThe power of AI champions and security-first AI rollout Key Takeaways: Many companies stall at surface-level AI use because they don’t invest the time to deeply understand capabilities or rethink how work is actually structured.Real AI impact comes from redesigning workflows, identifying where time is lost, standardizing processes, and embedding AI directly into how tasks get done.Adoption is driven by culture and leadership: curious, hands-on teams combined with leadership that mandates rethinking work will move faster than any one “type” of department.Measuring AI success requires looking beyond basic usage metrics and focusing instead on cycle times, output volume, performance improvements, and behavior shifts.Individual power users and AI champions can dramatically shape how an organization adopts AI, but they must be supported by strong security practices and a cross-functional partnership with IT. “My thinking has really shifted from adoption is not just an educational problem, but it's a design problem. You have to really change how the work actually happens, and there's a lot of work that goes into that.”  - Logan Karam About the guest, Logan Karam: Logan Karam is a Program Director, AI at Fabletics, bringing expertise in program leadership and strategic operations within the apparel retail sector. Their background demonstrates a focus on driving program initiatives and optimizing business processes. Within Fabletics, Logan has progressed through several roles, including AI Program Lead and Operations & AI Program Lead Senior Manager, Strategy. Earlier, at TechStyle Fashion Group, they served as Senior Manager, Strategy & Operations, contributing to strategic planning and operational improvements within the apparel and accessories retail environment. Logan holds a Bachelor of Science degree from Stanford University and graduated from Lutheran High School of Orange. Connect with Logan Karam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-karam/  Fabletics: https://www.fabletics.com/  SubSummit will be in Kansas City, May 13-15, 2026 Attend SubSummit FOR FREE Here:  https://subsummit.com/hosted-merchant-meetings-program/  You can also register here: https://subsummit.com/tickets/  Book your meeting with Christopher George from SubSummit here:  https://meetings.hubspot.com/chris3306/linkedin-profile?uuid=0c103e97-4adc-4c16-bbe6-794c92ab9c61  About SubSummit: SubSummit brings together thousands of executives and operators from established enterprises, direct-to-consumer, fast-growing startups, innovative tech companies, active investors, and more. These pioneers come from across a broad range of industries, including e-commerce, media, publishing, retail, streaming, SaaS, digital, automotive, and beyond. From FabFitFun to Walmart+ to MasterClass, the world’s leading brands leverage SubSummit to remain catalysts in consumer engagement and product experiences. Simply put, if you’re in subscription, membership, or recurring revenue, you’re at SubSummit. Website: https://subsummit.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/subsummit/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sub_summit/  Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Logan Karam: Inside Fabletics’ Playbook for Real-World AI Adoption

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At the crossroads of innovation, growth, and connection, this podcast takes you inside SubSummit 2026—the premier gathering for leaders shaping the future of subscription, membership, loyalty, and recurring revenue. From the months leading up to the conference through the live energy of the event and the insights that follow, each episode delivers conversations with the brands, solution providers, and thought leaders redefining customer relationships and building the next generation of commerce. With exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes access, and real-time takeaways from Kansas City, listeners will hear the strategies, partnerships, and bold ideas emerging from an industry that touches the majority of U.S. consumers and fuels a multi-trillion-dollar economy. Whether you’re a fast-scaling brand, an innovative solution provider, or a leader looking to deepen customer loyalty and lifetime value, this podcast is your front-row seat to the connections, conversations, and breakthroughs that make SubSummit the place where the future of recurring revenue takes shape—and the event you’ll want to experience in person.