The Rub: a podcast about massage therapy

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Join Healwell in examining and bringing context to the world of massage therapy beyond the table. We have ideas. We have opinions. We want change, and that will only come with an understanding of who and what massage therapy truly is. A variety of topics are up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that fascinate us.Healwell is a non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org 

  1. ١٠ سبتمبر

    Substack: Wicked Problems Defy Simple Solutions

    Send us Fan Mail Don't let them bring you down. If you have spent even a year or two in this profession, I bet you have felt a familiar, exhausting sense of déjà vu. We keep having the same arguments about entry-level education, whether we belong in hospitals or high-end spas. We argue about franchise pay and work conditions, the definition of “professionalism,” and we wonder vaguely (but never actually measure or study!) what might be behind the staggering rate of early-career burnout. Our struggles as massage therapists do not stem from a lack of trying. They stem from an inability and an unwillingness to look at the size of the problem and all of its unseemly tentacles. We are living and working inside a wicked problem and wicked problems will never be solved by effort alone. Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  2. ١٩ أغسطس

    Substack: The Mother of All Onions

    Send us Fan Mail Why we struggle to talk about the harassment of massage therapists Content warning: The following essay contains a generalized discussion of sexual harassment and assault. Please take any precautions you may need before engaging. Click here to answer the survey: A National Study on U.S. Massage Therapists’ Experiences of Sexual Harassment and Assault by Clients You can read the full survey results about Ontario here. Previous survey results from a Canada-wide survey can be read here.  *Correction: Morgan Richards, PhD student, administered the Canada-wide survey and the current US survey. She reviewed and verified the survey and resources for the RMTAO, Ontario-specific survey.  Resources: RAINN National Sexual Assault Website:Free, confidential, 24/7 support in English and Spanish800-656-HOPE (4673)chat at rainn.org/hotlinetext “HOPE” to 64673Connect on Signal or WhatsApp1in6.org support for men who have experienced sexual abuse or assaultNational Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-7233DoD Safe Helpline for military membersShow notes: Pamela Fitch Sandy Fritz Why there are so many men at the top of the profession when it is demographically dominated by women. The federal government is full of officials who casually confirm gender inequality. Despite a court order, a particular set of files is still unreleased except for the personal information of the survivors. Intimate partner violence is a paltry second to a political campaign. Women’s health is ignored or deliberately hamstrung. Social media stars push ideas of reversing suffrage and assert that a woman’s place in the kitchen. Young girls who dismiss boys have their lives placed in jeopardy.  The profession is considered feminine Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  3. ١٣ أغسطس

    Substack: Generative AI is a Tool So You Don't Have to Be

    Send us Fan Mail There are MANY links to references in this article, so please visit the original article to see them.  We (Corey and Cal) know that generative AI is a hot button question. We think it is a more nuanced conversation than “love it” or “hate it.” This article is about transparency. It is about how we (Corey and Cal) think about the tool that is generative AI, how we use it in our work, and what we’re wary of. Critical thinking demands constant re-evaluation and the conversation that surrounds AI changes every day, so this is a bookmark of how we feel as of August 2026. Card Catalog: Hana the Librarian Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  4. ٢٣ يوليو

    Substack: Parallel Play Is Not Interprofessional Education

    Send us Fan Mail What I have seen most commonly, is that we bring massage therapy students to give “a massage” to medical students or others learning to be healthcare professionals (nurses, physical therapists). Maybe our students talk about what they’re doing during that massage, but we don’t prepare our students to engage with the students from these other disciplines as peers. When we learn together, we hear each other’s questions and it opens otherwise unavailable opportunities to understand each other’s inspiration and concerns. We see how different our approaches are, but we also learn that there is a surprising level of overlap and, thereby, opportunity for collaboration. When we learn like this, we build trust and relationships that last into practice and which foster long-term collaborative care dynamics. Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  5. ٤ يونيو

    Substack: Massage Therapy Needs Pigs with Wings

    Send us Fan Mail The next two articles will only be available for our Substack members, and will not be posted to this podcast. To subscribe to the Substack and receive the articles and audio to your email, click here. I spend many of my days lost in thought. It isn’t unusual for me to lose track of a conversation because a stray idea occurred to me.  Sometimes I get overwhelmed when I read a paper or a book or listen to conversations. It feels like a waterfall of ideas comes crashing down in my head, and my senses fritz as my brain frantically tries to create a cascade of new neural connections in a single moment before the revelations slip away. The thoughts that consume me are about my intellectual project, and I think it is time to let you in on it. Here is the question that hijacks my days: Why does massage therapy– a profession that does profound human-centered work– remain undervalued, misunderstood, and mistreated; both internally and externally?Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  6. ١٤ مايو

    Substack: Are We At the Table, Or On the Menu?

    Send us Fan Mail Read the article here There are many massage therapists who have worked incredibly hard to open doors in clinical settings. We have spent decades building trust, demonstrating value, and carving out space for our work in environments that didn’t initially (and often still don’t) understand or welcome us as practitioners of a uniquely valuable discipline. That pioneering work has created real impact for patients and laid groundwork that others have built on. And somewhere along the way, I think we started accepting terms that don’t fully honor what we can contribute or who we are. Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  7. ٩ أبريل

    Substack: Wishes, Surveys, and Ken Burns

    Send us Fan Mail Read the original article here There’s no way for the associations to know our wishes if we don’t say them out loud. If we want the power to come from the bottom of the pyramid, we have to accept responsibility and ownership of that power. That doesn’t mean saying “I demand you fix my problem” it means saying “I need this specific thing from you in order to fix this problem.” Links: Articles where we describe problems can be found here: The Price of Free, Massage Therapy Has a Labor Problem, The Secret Health Crisis of Massage Therapists, Why Massage Therapy Needs a Divorce, Not Another Debate ...a special combination of skills that few people have. (Luckily, we have one.) Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

  8. ١٢ مارس

    Substack: The Designation is Not the Destination

    Send us Fan Mail What exactly do we mean when we call ourselves “healthcare providers”? “Healthcare provider” does not mean the same thing everywhere. Depending on the state, it might mean defined scope and enforceable accountability. It could relate to insurance participation. Maybe it means elevated liability standards. Worst case, it might mean mostly vibes. These variations aren’t trivial. Once the label of “healthcare provider” or “healthcare service” enters statute, it stops being branding and starts carrying weight. Or at least, it should. Across the United States, that weight is distributed unevenly. Support the show Subscribe to our Substack: "More Than Hands" Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org Leave us a voice message:  703-468-1799 Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here! Ways join in: Leave us a review on  Apple PodcastsCheck out Healwell’s live and online classesContinue the conversation with a free 3-day trial of the Healwell CommunityFind a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care"Thank you to ABMP and AMTA for sponsoring us! Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org

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Join Healwell in examining and bringing context to the world of massage therapy beyond the table. We have ideas. We have opinions. We want change, and that will only come with an understanding of who and what massage therapy truly is. A variety of topics are up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that fascinate us.Healwell is a non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org 

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