Supporting Physician Spouses

Kendra Harvey and Katie Harris

Supporting Physician Spouses is the go-to podcast for anyone navigating life as the spouse or partner of a physician. Hosted by Kendra, a physician family advocate and coach, and Katie, a resident spouse in the final year of her husband's training, this podcast is all about the transition from residency to practice. Each episode, we dive into candid conversations about the unique challenges, joys, and uncertainties that come with this major life shift—finances, relocations, career changes, family dynamics, and more. Whether you're in the thick of training or looking ahead to the next stage, we're here to offer support, insight, and real talk from both sides of the journey. Join us as we navigate this transition together!

  1. Episode 37: Flexible Work for Physician Spouses and Support for Busy Families with Dr. Brittany Bankhead of Modern Mom Lab

    2D AGO

    Episode 37: Flexible Work for Physician Spouses and Support for Busy Families with Dr. Brittany Bankhead of Modern Mom Lab

    Reworked show notes (training-forward) What if the most realistic path to flexible, meaningful work in this season is becoming a Family Virtual Assistant with a clear roadmap, training, and a fast track to being matched with a family? In today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Brittany Bankhead, a double board certified trauma surgeon and the Founder and CEO of Modern Mom Lab. Brittany shares why virtual assistants are not just for business owners, families need them too, and that insight led her to build a clear training path for women who want work that fits real life. We talk about the Family Virtual Assistant Institute, the training program Modern Mom Lab created to help moms become family virtual assistants, using skills they likely already possess: communication, scheduling, systems, follow-through, and the kind of "make it all happen" competence that already runs a household. If you are a physician spouse who needs truly flexible work, or you know someone who does, this episode is a must listen. What we cover Why families need virtual assistants too, not just entrepreneurs What a family virtual assistant actually does for a household The kinds of skills that translate well into this work (and why you may already have them) What the Family Virtual Assistant Institute teaches, and the support that comes with training How families and FVAs find each other through Modern Mom Lab's ecosystem (including The Grid) What it can look like to build flexible income without sacrificing your family's needs Learn more  Modern Mom Lab www.modernmomlab.com  Instagram @modernmomlab  Instagram @bbankheadmd Listener perk Coupon code mentioned in the episode: BETTERNOW100 for $100 off the FVA Institute or the Grid. If this episode helped you Please share it with a physician spouse who needs flexible work, or a mom who would thrive with training, support, and a clear path into a role that families value. You can also leave a review (it helps other physician spouses find us), and share on social media. Tag us @supportingphysicianspouse on Instagram and Facebook.

    35 min
  2. Episode 36: Fair Play in Residency, How a Physician Couple Divides the Mental Load

    FEB 3

    Episode 36: Fair Play in Residency, How a Physician Couple Divides the Mental Load

    In Part 4 of our Fair Play series, Katie sits down with her husband, Dr. Talon Harris, to share what it actually looks like to implement Fair Play during residency. They talk about rotating schedules, invisible labor, and the "default parent" dynamic, plus the systems that helped their household feel calmer and more predictable even in a demanding season. In This Episode, We Cover How they discovered Fair Play, and why it clicked Why the cards felt validating, and also overwhelming at first The challenge of residency schedules, and "planned unpredictability" The shift from "helping" to full ownership (and why it matters) Practical systems they built for mornings, meals, laundry, and bedtime Encouragement for resident couples who feel too stretched thin to start Key Takeaways Start small: pick a few high-frequency pain points first (morning rush, meals, laundry). Ownership reduces resentment: shared responsibility can feel like both people doing everything. Systems create relief: predictability lowers stress for partners and kids. Residency is not an excuse to disengage, it is a reason to get intentional. Timestamps (approx.) 00:00 Intro and why this conversation is personal 02:00 How they found Fair Play 04:00 The "visual stack" and the reality check moment 06:00 Why rotations break systems, and how to adapt 10:00 Moving from "How can I help?" to ownership 12:00 Their real-life systems (mornings, meals, laundry) 17:00 Katie returning to full-time work and the forced shift in roles 20:00 Advice for other resident couples Connect With Us Follow on Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Email: hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com (send guest ideas, topics, or listener stories)

    25 min
  3. Episode 35: Fair Play Part 3 - Time Equality, Provider Pressure, and Being a True Partner at Home with Dr. Adrian Harvey

    JAN 27

    Episode 35: Fair Play Part 3 - Time Equality, Provider Pressure, and Being a True Partner at Home with Dr. Adrian Harvey

    In Part 3 of our Fair Play series, Kendra sits down with her husband, Dr. Adrian Harvey, to talk candidly about what it looks like for a physician husband to move from "helping" to complete ownership at home. They unpack the provider-role pressure, the mindset shift required to truly value time equally, and how shared ownership can deepen connection with both spouse and kids, even in a demanding medical career. In this episode, we discuss: Dr. Adrian's first reaction to Fair Play, and what changed over time What "peer marriage" looks like in a physician household The provider role, earning differential, and why money should not determine who carries the home What complete ownership means with call schedules and limited bandwidth How shared domestic ownership can shift identity, parenting connection, and partnership Prioritizing marriage with five kids, protecting romance, and staying emotionally connected What Dr. Adrian would tell other physician husbands who believe they "don't have time" Key takeaways: Ownership is not "helping," it's taking responsibility from start to finish A demanding schedule makes shared ownership harder, but also more necessary When both partners value time equally, resentment drops and friendship grows Mentioned in this series: Fair Play by Eve Rodsky (book and system) Modernizing Marriage: Equality and flexibility make better husbands and wives (Psychology Today) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/199409/modernizing-marriage Listen to the full Fair Play series: Episode 33 (Part 1 of 4): Mental Load, Invisible Labor, and True Partnership Episode 34 (Part 2 of 4): Practical Division of Labor with Unpredictable Schedules Episode 35 (Part 3 of 4): Time Equality, Provider Pressure, and Being a True Partner at Home Episode 36 (Part 4 of 4): Katie and Talon Harris share their Fair Play experience (coming next week) Connect with us: Follow us on Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Have a topic idea? DM us, we love hearing from you. Disclaimer: This podcast is educational and supportive, and it is not therapy or medical advice.

    34 min
  4. JAN 20

    Episode 34: Fair Play in a Physician Marriage, What's Actually Realistic

    Physician families do not need a "perfect" division of labor, they need a realistic one. In Part 2 of our Fair Play conversation, we move from concepts into application and talk about how to make the Fair Play framework work when medicine does not cooperate with routines, predictability, or a normal workweek. We name the reality that 60, 70, 80-hour weeks are not "flexible hours," and also the important question that follows: when the physician is home, what happens during those hours? We talk about the difference between needing to decompress (human) and becoming consistently unavailable for household participation (a dynamic that slowly breaks trust). From there, we get practical about "cards" and ownership, specifically: what responsibilities can a busy physician genuinely own from start to finish, and how do you choose those in a way that reduces resentment instead of creating more? In this episode, we cover The "reality check" of physician schedules, and why fairness cannot look like a simple 50/50 split The nuance of being physically home, but mentally and emotionally tapped out Decompression vs chronic unavailability, and why that distinction matters How to decide which Fair Play "cards" a physician can truly own Practical criteria for picking responsibilities that work in physician life: tasks with flexible timing tasks aligned with the physician's interests/strengths tasks where their unique input really matters Examples of "physician-owned" commitments that can work even with changing rotations (like a consistent weekly tradition, kids' activities, or bedtime on specific days) What's next in this series Next, we'll hear from each of our spouses about the process from their perspective, what was harder than expected, what helped, and what changed. Resource mentioned Fair Play by Eve Rodsky Connect with us Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Email: hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com

    24 min
  5. JAN 13

    Episode 33: The Mental Load in Physician Families: Fair Play Framework Explained

    When one partner is working 60, 70, 80+ hours a week, it is easy to default into, "I'll just handle everything at home." On the surface, it looks supportive. Over time, it often turns into resentment, disconnection, and a physician who feels like a guest in their own home, while the at-home partner feels like they can never step away from being the household CEO. In Part 1 of our Fair Play series, we break down the core ideas from Fair Play by Eve Rodsky, and translate the framework into the reality of physician family life. This episode is about the concepts and language you need before you can make anything practical. In this episode, we cover Why "I'll do it all" starts as love, and ends as resentment How control can quietly become the coping strategy (and why it costs you) The invisible work that drains you most: planning, remembering, anticipating Why "Can you help with…" keeps one partner as the manager, and the other as the assistant The Fair Play card deck concept: making the invisible labor visible The game-changing framework: conception to completion The conversation most couples skip: defining the minimum standard of care A key reframe for physician families: fair does not mean equal, and all time matters Key takeaways Resentment is often a signal that a pattern no longer fits, and you do not know how to get out of it yet. Doing "everything" at home can unintentionally push the physician partner out of meaningful contribution at home. Ownership is different than helping. Ownership means the task is fully yours, without being asked, reminded, or managed. "Good enough" has to be defined. Otherwise, everyone is guessing, and conflict is inevitable. In physician families, the workload may never be 50/50, but value can still be equal. Reflection question Do you believe your time is equal to your physician spouse's time? What's next in this series Episode 34: Applying Fair Play to physician family life (how this can work with call, rotations, and unpredictable schedules) Then, in epsidoe 35 and 36, we'll bring in both of our spouses to share what the process felt like from their perspective, including the messy parts and what actually helped. Resources mentioned Fair Play by Eve Rodsky Connect with us Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Email: hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com

    21 min
  6. Episode 32: Honoring Your Seasons: Why New Year's Resolutions Don't Always Work for Physician Spouses

    JAN 6

    Episode 32: Honoring Your Seasons: Why New Year's Resolutions Don't Always Work for Physician Spouses

    If you're married to a physician, the "New Year, new you" pressure can feel extra exhausting, especially when your life is already running on a high-demand schedule. In this episode, Kendra and Katie offer you something better than resolutions: permission to honor your current season and work with your real energy, not an arbitrary calendar date.  In this episode, we cover Why January 1 can be a terrible "starting line" (and why nature is resting when we're told to sprint) The seasons framework, using a farming metaphor: Winter: planning, rest, reflection Spring: gentle planting, experimentation Summer: consistent growth and maintenance Fall: harvesting wins, celebrating, completing the cycle Why your seasons do not have to match the calendar, and how you can be in different seasons in different areas of life The simplest way to identify your current season: What is your energy actually like right now? Does starting something new feel exciting or exhausting? Real-life examples from Kendra and Katie about where they are right now, and what they're choosing to say yes to, and no to A practical way to answer the "What are your New Year's resolutions?" question without over-explaining A reflection prompt to help you align this week with what you truly need Reflection prompt (from the episode) What does my season need from me right now?   Coming next Next week, we're talking about what the principles of Fair Play can look like in physician families.    Interested in Coaching with Kendra? Schedule your interview with Kendra at https://itgetsbetternow.com/work-with-me/   Connect with us Follow on Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Have an episode idea? Email us: hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com If this episode resonated, please leave a review. It helps more physician spouses find the show.

    23 min
  7. 12/30/2025

    Episode 31: End-of-Year Wrap Up for Physician Spouses: Favorite Episodes, Listener Stories, and What's Coming in 2026

    If you're married to a physician and you've been holding a lot this year, this one is for you. Katie and Kendra share highlights from our first year, read reviews from listeners, and tease what's ahead in 2026, including a Fair Play series and conversations about your family's ecosystem. As we head into a new year, we're looking back on the first year of the Supporting Physician Spouses podcast, how it began, what resonated most, and what we're building next. If you've been listening quietly, this is your invitation to step closer. Leave a review, send a DM, or email us with what you want next. We're building this community with you. In this episode, we cover: How Katie and Kendra first connected through coaching, and why that matters for the medical journey Favorite episodes from the year (including Kendra's episode with her husband, and Katie's "marriage contract" conversation) Real listener reviews, and what you've shared about feeling seen and less alone What's coming in 2026: no traditional New Year's resolutions, family systems, and a three-part Fair Play focus (including episodes with both spouses) A question for you: how could this community serve you best next year? Connect with us Email: hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com Instagram: @supportingphysicianspouses Help more physician spouses find this show If this podcast has helped you feel more grounded, more understood, or simply less alone, please leave a rating and review. It helps other physician spouses find support when they need it most. Keywords: physician spouse, physician partners, medical marriage, residency spouse, surgeon spouse, end of year reflection, invisible load, Fair Play Eve Rodsky, marriage communication, burnout prevention, support for physician families

    14 min
  8. 12/23/2025

    Episode 30: Do We Even Have Traditions? Holiday Life as a Physician Family

    *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:5d146837-6b11-4cdd-9fa6-669a0b124f38-3" data-testid= "conversation-turn-8" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> The holidays can be joyful—and complicated—when you're married to medicine. Today we're talking about how we actually celebrate the holiday season—as physician spouses juggling unpredictable schedules, limited time off, and shifting expectations. In this episode, we talk about: Why creating "traditional" holiday traditions can feel hard in medical training and early practice How simple, flexible traditions often matter more than elaborate plans Letting go of comparison—especially online—and doing what works for your family You'll hear: A story about how Christmas Eve pizza became a meaningful tradition during an unpredictable season An honest realization that we do have traditions—even if they don't look big or Instagram-worthy Encouragement to simplify gifts, food, and expectations during a demanding season of life This episode is an invitation to release pressure, ignore the online noise, and give yourself permission to celebrate in ways that actually support your family—right where you are. We're so grateful you're here. Happy holidays. Resources mentioned in this episode: Brûléed Orange Brioche French Toast (Williams Sonoma recipe) The Giving Machines (charitable vending machines) Leave a review for Supporting Physician Spouses to help other physician families find the show Join us on Instagram Email us your topic suggestions at hello@supportingphysicianspouses.com

    21 min
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About

Supporting Physician Spouses is the go-to podcast for anyone navigating life as the spouse or partner of a physician. Hosted by Kendra, a physician family advocate and coach, and Katie, a resident spouse in the final year of her husband's training, this podcast is all about the transition from residency to practice. Each episode, we dive into candid conversations about the unique challenges, joys, and uncertainties that come with this major life shift—finances, relocations, career changes, family dynamics, and more. Whether you're in the thick of training or looking ahead to the next stage, we're here to offer support, insight, and real talk from both sides of the journey. Join us as we navigate this transition together!

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