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RealDealChat brings you unfiltered conversations with elite real estate investors who share their journey to success. Each episode delivers practical wisdom from industry leaders who openly discuss: • Proven strategies that are generating results in today's market • Honest reflections on mistakes and missteps they've encountered along the way • Actionable takeaways you can implement immediately to elevate your real estate portfolio Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, our no-fluff interviews provide the real-world insights you need to navigate the complexities of real estate investing and accelerate your path to financial freedom. Join us as we decode the secrets of successful real estate investors and help you transform their hard-earned lessons into your competitive advantage.

  1. Gold, Silver & the Dollar Collapse | David Morgan Explains

    11H AGO

    Gold, Silver & the Dollar Collapse | David Morgan Explains

    David Morgan explains gold, silver, real estate, and why the dollar is losing trust—plus how investors protect wealth when the monetary system breaks. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with David Morgan, founder of The Morgan Report and one of the most respected analysts in precious metals, to unpack what’s really happening inside the global monetary system. David shares how his fascination with money started as a child noticing the difference between silver coins and debased currency, and how that curiosity led to more than four decades analyzing markets, banking systems, and hard assets. The conversation dives deep into why gold and silver function as trust-based assets, how real estate behaves differently in inflationary vs high-rate environments, and why rising debt, stablecoins, and global de-dollarization matter to everyday investors. David also explains where crypto fits (and doesn’t), how to actually buy precious metals safely, common myths investors believe, and why unrealistic expectations hurt long-term returns. You’ll also hear the story behind his documentary Silver Sunrise, lessons from building a long-running research business, and why critical thinking—not fear—is the most valuable investment skill today. 👉 Learn more & book a call: TheMorganReport.com/realdeal 👉 Build investor systems & automation: https://realdealcrew.com ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – A silver coin that changed everything 01:00 – Discovering fractional reserve banking 02:35 – Finding your calling early 03:30 – Why real estate is the ultimate hard asset 05:10 – Gold vs real estate: performance & liquidity 06:25 – Why the Fed failed its core mission 07:45 – Debt, trust & the dollar’s decline 09:10 – Stablecoins, crypto & hidden buyers of U.S. debt 11:40 – Can crypto return to a gold standard? 14:05 – When gold wins and real estate struggles 15:45 – How David built The Morgan Report 18:30 – Why the metals business is harder today 20:45 – How to actually buy gold & silver 23:40 – Myths about silver prices & manipulation 26:55 – The Silver Sunrise documentary 29:20 – Philosophy, money & human behavior 31:25 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving tools #GoldInvesting #SilverInvesting #HardAssets #DavidMorgan #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #InflationHedge #WealthProtection #MonetarySystem #InvestorMindset RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.com LIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW WebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubespan class="ql-ui"...

    34 min
  2. Buying a Business vs Real Estate | David C. Barnett Explains

    2D AGO

    Buying a Business vs Real Estate | David C. Barnett Explains

    David C. Barnett breaks down buying small businesses vs real estate, the risks investors overlook, and how to build resilient, cash-flowing companies. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with David C. Barnett, author of The Business Fortress and one of the most respected voices in small business acquisition, to unpack the real differences between buying businesses and investing in real estate. David shares his journey from business brokerage to banking to building a global advisory firm helping buyers and sellers avoid catastrophic mistakes. He explains why business brokerage is fundamentally broken, how leverage cuts both ways in small businesses, and why “absentee ownership” is one of the most dangerous myths investors believe. You’ll learn why operational leverage can destroy profits overnight, how liquidity (not growth) determines survival, why balance sheets matter more than P&Ls, and how long-term content creation (YouTube, books, email) quietly outperforms flashy marketing tactics. This episode is a must-watch for real estate investors considering business acquisitions—and for entrepreneurs who want to build a business fortress that survives downturns and exits cleanly. 👉 Learn more & grab the book: DavidCBarnett.com 👉 Build systems & scale smarter: https://realdealcrew.com ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 – Why business school doesn’t teach entrepreneurship 01:00 – Why business brokerage is broken 02:45 – The cash-flow trap brokers don’t tell you about 04:30 – Why this book had to be rewritten 06:00 – Balance sheet vs P&L thinking 08:00 – Liquidity problems & sleepless nights 10:00 – Why growth can make businesses fragile 12:00 – Why he left brokerage for banking 14:00 – Helping buyers without brokers 15:30 – Business leverage vs real estate leverage 17:00 – Operational leverage explained (simple math) 19:00 – Why absentee ownership is a myth 21:00 – The “regional manager” reality 22:45 – Single dad, time freedom & entrepreneurship 24:30 – YouTube before it was cool 26:00 – Why vanity metrics don’t matter 27:30 – Content for buyers, not creators 29:00 – Marketing systems that compound 31:00 – Why investors start the wrong businesses 33:00 – Talent, management & hidden complexity 35:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, books & time-saving system #BusinessAcquisition #SmallBusinessBuying #DavidCBarnett #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #Entrepreneurship #BuyingABusiness #InvestorMindset #BusinessSystems #CashFlow RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.com LIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW WebsiteApple Podcastsa...

    40 min
  3. How Brent Kesler Paid Off $1M in Debt Using Infinite Banking

    4D AGO

    How Brent Kesler Paid Off $1M in Debt Using Infinite Banking

    Brent Kesler explains infinite banking, how he paid off nearly $1M in debt, and why the wealthy recycle money using the Money Multiplier method. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss welcomes back Brent Kesler, founder of The Money Multiplier, to break down one of the most misunderstood wealth strategies in real estate and investing: infinite banking. Brent shares how he and his wife eliminated $984,711 of third-party debt in just 39 months—without changing cash flow, working harder, or taking on more risk. He explains how specially designed whole life policies allow investors to recycle and recapture money they’re already spending, turning expenses into long-term wealth. The conversation covers the origins of the infinite banking concept (Nelson Nash), why many advisors misunderstand it, how real estate investors use it to fund deals repeatedly, and why mindset traps like Arrival Syndrome and Parkinson’s Law keep people broke. If you want a proven system the wealthy have used for over 250 years—and a way to fund real estate without losing control of your money—this episode delivers clarity and conviction. 👉 Learn more: TheMoneyMultiplier.com 👉 Build better systems with AI & automation: https://realdealcrew.com ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – $984K in debt & the decision that changed everything 01:15 – What is infinite banking (simple explanation) 03:00 – Why the wealthy recycle money 04:40 – Nelson Nash & the origin of the strategy 06:15 – Why most advisors don’t understand this 07:50 – Adding ONE step to your finances 09:30 – Using infinite banking for real estate deals 11:00 – Car example: getting the car and the money 12:45 – Real investor case study (Phoenix example) 15:00 – Paying off $1M in debt in 39 months 17:00 – Why people don’t believe it at first 18:45 – Whole life vs “life insurance” myths 20:15 – Tax-free growth & keeping control 23:45 – Arrival Syndrome: why people tune out 26:30 – Parkinson’s Law & lifestyle inflation 29:45 – Why raises don’t create wealth 31:50 – Mindset, systems & mentors 33:40 – Biggest time saver: recorded systems 36:00 – Final advice for investors #InfiniteBanking #MoneyMultiplier #BrentKesler #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #WealthBuilding #PassiveIncome #PrivateMoney #CashFlow #FinancialFreedom #InvestorMindset RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.com LIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW WebsiteApple Podcastsa href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_6OpKSfSGvgGDG1qtBQw9Q"...

    41 min
  4. Why Most Investors Lose Deals in Follow-Up | Paul do Campo

    DEC 15

    Why Most Investors Lose Deals in Follow-Up | Paul do Campo

    Paul do Campo explains why real estate investors lose deals in follow-up, how value-based messaging works, and why human connection beats automation alone. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Paul do Campo, founder of REI Omni Drip, to break down one of the most overlooked profit centers in real estate investing: follow-up. Paul explains why most investors overspend on lead generation while leaving massive money trapped inside their CRM. He shares how value-based follow-up, storytelling, and multichannel communication (email, SMS, and direct mail) dramatically increase seller responses—without sounding salesy or spammy. The conversation dives deep into: Why “Are you still interested in selling?” no longer worksHow stories outperform sales scriptsWhy email open rates are down—and what to do insteadHow multichannel follow-up revives cold and unresponsive leadsWhy AI tools are becoming commoditized—and how to stay humanThe real reason investors stop following up (hint: emotions) This episode is a masterclass in follow-up psychology, systems, and long-term deal conversion for wholesalers, flippers, and real estate investors. 👉 Learn more about Paul’s system: REIOmniDrip.com 👉 Want help implementing follow-up, AI, and automation? Visit https://realdealcrew.com ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Why sellers avoid the open market 01:00 – Why follow-up is the real opportunity 02:00 – Lead gen vs follow-up (where deals are lost) 03:30 – Why “hot, warm, cold” sequences don’t work 05:00 – Value-based follow-up vs sales pressure 06:30 – Using stories to drive seller responses 08:00 – Email open rates are down—now what? 09:30 – Why multichannel follow-up wins 11:00 – How many touches sellers really need 13:00 – Aggressive early follow-up (done right) 15:00 – Emotions sabotaging investor follow-up 17:00 – CRM gold most investors ignore 19:00 – SMS myths, compliance & reputation 21:30 – AI follow-up is becoming commoditized 23:00 – Why human connection will win long-term 25:30 – Rapid Fire: work ethic, books & tools #RealEstateInvesting #LeadFollowUp #WholesalingRealEstate #PaulDoCampo #RealDealChat #REIOmniDrip #RealEstateMarketing #InvestorSystems #AIForRealEstate #SellerLeads #Automation RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.com LIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW WebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube Musica...

    30 min
  5. How to Get $50K–$250K in 0% Business Credit | Jack McColl’s Playbook

    DEC 13

    How to Get $50K–$250K in 0% Business Credit | Jack McColl’s Playbook

    Jack McColl shares how entrepreneurs can access $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit, build capital the right way, and scale without giving up equity. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Jack McColl, entrepreneur and founder of Credit Stacking, to break down how investors and business owners can get $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit—even with no business credit history. Jack shares how he discovered business credit seven years into entrepreneurship, why personal credit unlocks huge business limits, and how he used $500K in approvals to build multiple successful companies. He explains exactly how to structure applications, build banking relationships, avoid common mistakes, and leverage 0% cards safely for real estate, e-com, or any cash-flowing venture. Jack also discusses partnership lessons, how to avoid giving up equity too early, how to use business lines of credit to extend your 0% period, and how automations + virtual assistants helped him scale. This is one of the most actionable credit episodes you’ve ever published. What You’ll LearnHow Jack got $500K in business credit approvalsWhy personal credit matters more than business creditHow to build banking relationships with the right institutionsHow to avoid equity partnerships by using creditRisks + rewards of leveraging business credit the right wayHow 0% cards actually work (12–18 months)How to extend 0% periods using a business line of creditHow to structure your first applicationsThe biggest credit mistakes people makeHow to use VAs and automations to scale your business 📍 Get Jack’s training → go.creditstacking.com/podcast 💡 Want AI-powered systems for your REI business? → RealDealCrew.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – How Jack discovered business credit 01:17 – From 19-year-old entrepreneur to 8 ventures 02:26 – Why most entrepreneurs don’t know about business credit 03:29 – How he got $500K in approvals 04:38 – Myths about debt & leveraging 0% credit 05:47 – Why personal credit matters more than business credit 07:26 – How to get $50K–$250K in 0% credit limits 08:50 – Why big banks beat local banks for 0% funding 10:02 – Early partnership failure & buying out partners 12:08 – The 4 ways to fund a business 13:26 – Why 0% cards beat loans & equity 14:32 – Extreme sports, mindset & pushing limits 16:15 – Why timelines create execution & reduce procrastination 18:11 – The 4 ingredients to freedom: product, money, systems, people 19:42 – Automations, VAs & eliminating repetitive tasks 21:30 – Extending 0% periods using business lines of credit 23:12 – Advanced strategies to rotate credit & reset the 0% clock 25:20 – Why you must prepare capital before you need it 27:00 – How parents can help kids build credit 29:20 – Rapid Fire: lies, lessons, books & tools #BusinessCredit #CreditStacking #JackMcColl #EntrepreneurFunding #RealDealChat #0PercentCredit #AccessToCapital #RealEstateFunding #ScalingBusiness #VirtualAssistants #Automation RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation....

    34 min
  6. Broke Business Owners? Alan Franks on Wealth, Operations & Real Estate

    DEC 11

    Broke Business Owners? Alan Franks on Wealth, Operations & Real Estate

    Alan Franks reveals why so many business owners stay broke, how to build wealth outside your company, and why financial planning must include real estate. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Alan Franks, founder of Empowered Money and Business Planning Institute, to discuss why so many entrepreneurs stay broke — despite high revenue, long hours, and endless sacrifice. Alan explains why entrepreneurs often treat their business like a “baby,” reinvesting everything back in and starving their personal finances. He lays out the framework he uses to help business owners build real wealth, diversify across real estate, capital markets, and business equity, and structure operations so the company can run without the owner. He shares lessons from the 2008 crisis, why comprehensive financial planning matters more than ever, the truth about generational wealth (it’s NOT the money), how to balance liquidity and long-term growth, and why today’s economy demands a plan that includes real estate, investing, AND a sellable business. This is one of your most actionable “business + finance + real estate” episodes. What You’ll LearnWhy so many business owners stay broke despite big revenueHow to split revenue into operating, owner comp, taxes & wealth-buildingWhy financial planning must include real estateThe power of fee-based planning vs financial product salesThe “Ready → Aim → Fire” framework for new investorsWhy liquidity risk is the real danger in real estateHow to evaluate today’s economy (rates, tariffs, inflation)Why owning a sellable business = real generational wealthHow to avoid over-reinvesting in your companyHow SOPs, documentation & AI-driven systems free the ownerHow to build personal wealth outside the business 📍 Learn more: Empowered-Money.com 📍 Business planning & valuations: BusinessPlanningInstitute.com 💡 Scale your real estate business with AI & systems → RealDealCrew.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Why so many business owners stay broke 01:01 – Alan’s start during the 2008 financial crisis 02:18 – The trap of financial “selling” vs real planning 03:00 – Why advisors ignore real estate (and why he doesn’t) 04:00 – The Ready → Aim → Fire investing method 05:35 – W2 vs business owners: surprising differences 06:45 – Business owners sacrificing everything 07:45 – The framework: ops, owner comp, taxes, wealth-building 09:15 – Generational wealth is NOT the money 11:00 – Wisdom > dollars: lessons from his father 12:30 – Limiting beliefs from the 2008 crash 13:50 – The 3 wealth engines: real estate, markets, business 15:30 – Real estate’s real risk: liquidity 16:00 – Why investors shouldn’t be “real estate only” 17:48 – The economy now: tariffs, inflation, and rates 20:00 – Why high rates aren’t just the Fed 21:00 – For the first time: renting may beat owning 24:00 – Housing prices, stagnation & affordability 26:23 – The Business Planning Institute 27:30 – Why documentation is the real bottleneck 29:00 – SOPs, checklists & building sellable operations 32:00 – Training a custom AI chatbot for internal SOPs 34:00 – How AI will remake business operations 36:00 – The pain of writing a book (Empowered Money) 37:30 – Marketing lessons & book launches 38:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, advice, books, tools #BusinessOwner #FinancialPlanning #AlanFranks #RealDealChat...

    44 min
  7. RealDealCast: Top 5 Tools to Manage Rentals Remotely (Save Hours Every Week)

    DEC 10

    RealDealCast: Top 5 Tools to Manage Rentals Remotely (Save Hours Every Week)

    Jack Hoss shares the top 5 tools real estate investors use to manage rentals remotely—covering cameras, smart locks, software, and automation. In this episode of RealDealCast, Jack Hoss reveals his top 5 tech tools for managing rental properties remotely. These are the exact systems he uses daily to monitor properties, communicate with tenants, and save hours every week. From Blink cameras and smart Wi-Fi door locks to Asana, TurboTenant, and his own RealDealCrew platform, Jack explains how each tool helps him manage rentals efficiently — even in rural areas or during harsh winter months. You’ll learn: How to use Blink cameras for property oversight and securityWhy smart locks make tenant access safer and simplerHow to manage maintenance tasks and contractors in AsanaWhy TurboTenant is perfect for leases, rent collection, and maintenance ticketsHow RealDealCrew automations streamline communication and follow-up Whether you own one rental or manage a full portfolio, these tools can help you build a hands-off system that frees your time for more deals — not more stress. YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/LvPZ92ebUFU 👉 Ready to automate your real estate operations? Get a free system audit at https://realdealcrew.com. Timestamps00:00 – Intro: My top 5 tools for managing rentals remotely 00:25 – Blink cameras for security & property monitoring 01:30 – Smart Wi-Fi door locks for tenant access 02:45 – Asana for contractor & task management 04:10 – TurboTenant for leases, maintenance, and communication 05:40 – RealDealCrew automations for instant responses 06:45 – Closing thoughts & how to get a free system audit #RealEstateInvesting #RentalProperty #RealEstateTechnology #RealEstateTools #LandlordTips #RemotePropertyManagement #AutomationForInvestors #PropertyManagementSoftware #RealDealCast #RealDealCrew #AIForRealEstate #SmartHomeTech #RentalAutomation #JackHoss RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.com LIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEW WebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon Musica...

    8 min
  8. Raising Capital in a Tough Market | John Azar on Funds, Deals & Defaults

    DEC 9

    Raising Capital in a Tough Market | John Azar on Funds, Deals & Defaults

    John Azar breaks down today’s capital markets, why deals are failing, and how to raise money, communicate with investors, and scale a commercial real estate fund. In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with John Azar, founder of Peak 15 Capital, to discuss the real state of capital markets, the rise of distressed commercial assets, and what operators must do to survive today’s environment. John shares his origin story—from structured finance at Morgan Stanley to launching multiple companies, navigating the 2008 crisis, and ultimately raising and managing large funds. He explains the differences between today’s market and 2008, why liquidity isn’t the problem this time, and why underwriting is causing widespread defaults across multifamily and commercial assets. John also breaks down how to start raising capital, the difference between syndications and funds, where he’s seeing the best opportunities (including flex industrial and ground-up development), and why transparent communication is the #1 rule of investor relations. He also covers how he uses AI and automation to save time while still keeping the personal touch required in private equity. What You’ll LearnWhy defaults are rising in CRE (and why it’s NOT the properties)The biggest difference between 2008 and todayHow to start raising money the right waySyndication vs. fund structures—and when to use eachWhy flex industrial and development deals are trendingHow to spot distressed opportunities in today’s marketHow to scale from being the operator to being a fund managerThe crucial role of communication in investor trustHow AI tools save time but can’t replace relationshipsWhat Peak 15 Capital is investing in next 📍 Learn more: Peak15Cap.com 💡 Scale your REI business with AI: RealDealCrew.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Defaults rising: bad financing, not bad properties 01:00 – John’s origin story in structured finance 02:00 – Starting his first company & surviving 2008 03:00 – Launching syndications in the Southeast 04:00 – Peak 15 Capital & becoming a fund manager 05:00 – Today vs 2008: liquidity & debt differences 06:30 – Where the real debt problems are now 08:00 – How new investors should start raising capital 09:30 – When to move from syndications to a fund 10:30 – Best opportunities: development & flex industrial 12:00 – Why multifamily underwriting is failing 13:00 – Why flex industrial is outperforming 14:00 – Scaling pains: teams, roles & internal change 15:30 – The #1 skill: investor communication 17:00 – Staying in front of bad news 18:00 – AI & automation as time multipliers 20:00 – Why personal touch still matters 21:30 – What Peak 15 is funding next 23:00 – Upcoming course & education 24:30 – Rapid Fire: lies, advice, books & time-savers #CommercialRealEstate #RaisingCapital #JohnAzar #Peak15Capital #RealDealChat #Syndication #RealEstateFunds #FlexIndustrial #CREInvesting #InvestorRelations #RealEstateDevelopment RealDealCrew.com We empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at a...

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RealDealChat brings you unfiltered conversations with elite real estate investors who share their journey to success. Each episode delivers practical wisdom from industry leaders who openly discuss: • Proven strategies that are generating results in today's market • Honest reflections on mistakes and missteps they've encountered along the way • Actionable takeaways you can implement immediately to elevate your real estate portfolio Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, our no-fluff interviews provide the real-world insights you need to navigate the complexities of real estate investing and accelerate your path to financial freedom. Join us as we decode the secrets of successful real estate investors and help you transform their hard-earned lessons into your competitive advantage.

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