A Digital Strategy Podcast

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A Digital Strategy Podcast explores how design, technology, and business intersect to shape the way organizations grow and adapt. Through thoughtful discussions and interviews with leaders in tech, design, brand, and marketing, the show shares practical strategies, frameworks, and stories for navigating today’s digital landscape. Hosted by the team at Tennis, the podcast blends sharp takes on the industry with candid conversations about the systems, tools, and decisions that drive lasting impact.

  1. The Truth About Agency Growth, Pricing, and Why Agencies Fail | ft. Eli Rubel

    23H AGO

    The Truth About Agency Growth, Pricing, and Why Agencies Fail | ft. Eli Rubel

    💡 Key Topics: Why most agencies get stuck and can't scale past the founder How pricing affects client lifetime, team stability, and the work itself The story behind going from $2,500/month to $45,000/month and back down Why revenue is a vanity metric and what to measure instead Employee churn as the red flag most clients ignore What niching down actually looks like in practice Why mutual respect is the real foundation of a great agency-client relationship   📖 Chapters: 0:00 — How most agencies fail (it's not the work) 0:54 — Eli's background: SaaS, e-commerce, and the leap to agencies 3:52 — Starting MatterMade and the rollercoaster of scaling 5:04 — How an agency operator ended up running an accounting firm 8:26 — The three stuck moments every agency founder faces 12:25 — Why intent matters: choosing to operate as a business 13:38 — Pricing is everything: how it shapes the entire business 17:08 — Client lifetime value: from 7 months to 2.5 years 19:05 — Why agency profitability matters to clients 20:40 — How to vet agency health before signing 22:40 — Revenue vs. profit: what real scale looks like 25:10 — Niching down: why it's scary and why it works 30:58 — What a real agency-client partnership looks like 34:16 — One hard truth and one piece of encouragement   🔔 Subscribe for weekly episodes on design, web strategy, and building better digital businesses. #agencygrowth #agencyprofitability #B2Bagency #clientretention #agencybusiness #pricingstrategy #digitalagency Links You can learn more about Tennis at our website. Be sure to follow us at LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, or Twitter

    38 min
  2. What a Design System Actually Is (Explained by Someone Who Builds One)

    MAY 15

    What a Design System Actually Is (Explained by Someone Who Builds One)

    Key Topics: • The Lego analogy: the simplest way to explain a design system to anyone • What's actually inside a design system: foundations, components, patterns, and documentation • How designers, developers, and product managers use a design system day to day • Why a brand guide and a design system are not the same thing • Design system governance: who owns what, and what happens without it • Opinionated vs. flexible: how Intuit decides what teams can and can't change • Why adoption is a culture problem, not a technical one • The ROI question: because it always comes back to ROI   Chapters: 0:00 — The Lego analogy for design systems 0:42 — Intro: Part 2 of the design system series 1:35 — Avi's role on Intuit's design platform team 3:08 — How the GenUX team serves internal business units 5:04 — Catching AI inconsistency before it scaled out of control 6:09 — Explaining a design system to someone who's never heard the term 8:42 — Why every new brick has to work for every set 9:52 — What a design system actually touches inside an organization 10:19 — Benefits: consistency, trust, and a shared language 11:47 — Drawbacks: slowing down in a world that moves fast 12:52 — Does a design system help resolve conflict between teams? 14:06 — When teams build outside the system (and why that's useful feedback) 15:55 — Fixed vs. flex: what's opinionated and what's open 17:20 — Advice for smaller companies: know your why 19:04 — The communication breakdown that kills adoption 19:52 — Getting people to actually commit: governance and culture 20:08 — Why it always comes back to ROI 22:42 — One thing to take away if you've never thought about design systems 25:08 — Symon's takeaway: know the why before you build 25:28 — Marcello's takeaway: the Lego analogy 25:55 — Where to find Avi 26:35 — What's next: Part 3 on building a design system   🔔 Subscribe for weekly episodes on design, web strategy, and building better digital businesses. Links You can learn more about Tennis at our website. Be sure to follow us at LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, or Twitter

    26 min
  3. Your CFO Isn't Saying No to Your Website

    APR 10

    Your CFO Isn't Saying No to Your Website

    Notes Why does a website project that everyone agrees is needed keep dying in the finance meeting? Usually it's not the budget — it's the pitch. Symon and Marcello break down how to reframe a web investment as a business initiative, not a creative one, and walk through exactly how to build a case that finance can actually approve. Topics covered: current cost audit (hosting, content ops, lost leads), opportunity cost of inaction, competitive and technical risk, how to connect a website to revenue (and when you can't), OPEX vs. CAPEX considerations, phase-based budget structuring, and how to build a measurement plan before you ask for money.   Chapter List (YouTube + Podcast) 0:00 — Intro: Why website projects die in the finance meeting 1:41 — The business case is already there — it's a framing problem 2:20 — Why most website business cases fail 4:13 — Looking at risk: compliance, accessibility, and fines 5:13 — Current costs: what your website is actually costing the business 7:00 — Opportunity cost: the website as a go-to-market tool 7:46 — Risk of inaction: technical debt and competitive positioning 9:00 — The investment ask: phasing, fiscal year alignment, flexibility 9:25 — Defining project objectives from day one 10:30 — How to connect a website to revenue (and when you can't) 12:13 — Content bottlenecks as the baseline business case 13:34 — Page speed: the metric that impacts both UX and search 14:34 — Indirect value: brand credibility, talent, partner perception 16:22 — How Tennis grew its own inbound with SEO and AEO 19:10 — When the full budget won't get approved: the phase-based ask 21:00 — What to do first if you need to pitch in the next 60 days 22:28 — Build the measurement plan before you ask for the budget 23:00 — OPEX vs. CAPEX: how finance wants to spend matters 24:49 — Final takeaway: stop pitching a website Links You can learn more about Tennis at our website. Be sure to follow us at LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, or Twitter

    26 min
  4. The Mistake That Kills Most Projects (It's Not the Budget)

    APR 2

    The Mistake That Kills Most Projects (It's Not the Budget)

    Most projects don't fail because the team couldn't build. They fail because the team tried to build everything at once. In this episode, Symon and Marcello break down why project scope creep and feature bloat are the real killers of product development timelines—and what to do about it. They walk through how to run a fast complexity audit before committing to any digital project, why a discovery phase and product requirements document (PRD) belong on every project regardless of size, and the difference between a proof of concept and an MVP (they're not the same thing, and confusing them is expensive). Whether you're scoping a website redesign, building your first web application, or evaluating a vendor for a complex B2B product—this one will save you from a very avoidable mistake. In this episode Why ambitious timelines and bloated scope are a reliable path to failure  The complexity audit: how to pressure-test a project before you commit  Proof of concept vs MVP  what each one is actually for  What the Think Phase and a proper PRD do that no kickoff call can  Four rules for phased delivery that actually ships Chapters 0:00 — Intro 0:36 — You can't boil the ocean 3:25 — The complexity trap 5:19 — Feature bloat in the real world 7:57 — Proof of concept vs MVP 10:37 — The discovery phase and the PRD 14:43 — Four rules for phased project delivery 19:31 — Wrap About Tennis Tennis is a B2B Web Design and Product Development Agency based in Toronto. We help mid-market teams turn complex digital problems into staged, ROI-driven builds—where each phase moves something real and earns the right to expand. tennis.digital → Follow us on LinkedIn Links You can learn more about Tennis at our website. Be sure to follow us at LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, or Twitter

    20 min

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A Digital Strategy Podcast explores how design, technology, and business intersect to shape the way organizations grow and adapt. Through thoughtful discussions and interviews with leaders in tech, design, brand, and marketing, the show shares practical strategies, frameworks, and stories for navigating today’s digital landscape. Hosted by the team at Tennis, the podcast blends sharp takes on the industry with candid conversations about the systems, tools, and decisions that drive lasting impact.