Taking Your Third Path

ThirdPath Institute

Together we can advocate for workplaces that support care for ourselves, our children, and our aging loved ones. When both work and life goals are supported, people can bring their best selves to work, and we also create more inclusive workplaces. Get inspired by experts, parents and leaders who are putting these ideas into action and learn how to implement them in your own lives and workplaces.

Episodes

  1. Managing Peak Periods of Work (and Life). Featuring: Rabiah Coon

    12/11/2025

    Managing Peak Periods of Work (and Life). Featuring: Rabiah Coon

    This episode of Taking Your Third Path dives into what it really means to live a life that’s “More Than Work”, and why that matters for your wellbeing, your relationships, and even your performance on the job. Host Jessica DeGroot talks with Rabiah Coon, stand-up comic and creator of the More Than Work podcast, about breaking free from hustle culture, moving through burnout and breakdowns, and learning to define yourself as a whole person instead of just a job title. Together, they explore how remote and hybrid work, better boundaries, and honest conversations with friends and colleagues can support a more integrated life where work, care, and creativity can all have a place. 00:09 Meet Rabiah and “More Than Work” 01:30 When Work Becomes Your Whole Identity 03:34 Lessons learned from "More Than Work" guests 06:45 Living a Life That’s More Than Work 11:24 Boundaries, Remote Work, and Balance 15:12 Episodic Overwork vs. Chronic Overwork 21:58 Segment Two with Melissa Davidson and Heather Cluley Bar-Or 34:29 Segment Three: The 10-Minute Listening Practice and Final Takeaways https://thirdpath.org/wp-content/uplo... Find out more at: https://thirdpath.org/ Join our Facebook ThirdPath Collective Group to continue the conversation with like-minded leaders, parents, and others: / thirdpathinst If you’re feeling inspired by our work, please consider donating to ThirdPath today! We are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and we rely on donations from supporters like you to make our programming happen. You can donate here: https://argentasoftware.com/interface... Subscribe to our Newsletter here: https://thirdpath.org/subscribe/

    43 min
  2. Making Time for What Matters Most

    12/01/2025

    Making Time for What Matters Most

    In this episode of Taking Your Third Path, Jessica DeGroot sits down with Simone Stolzoff, author of The Good Enough Job: Reclaiming Life from Work, to explore why “good enough” at work is not about slacking off—it’s about reclaiming time, energy, and identity for the rest of your life. Together they dig into how work has become a primary source of identity for so many people, why the “dream job” and “work as family” myths are so powerful, and what it really looks like to design a rich, multifaceted life that includes work but is not defined by it. You’ll hear stories about shared caregiving, multigenerational living, and practical strategies—like aligning your calendar with your values and creating “time sanctuaries”—that can help you make time for what matters most across the whole life cycle. 00:19 Why “Good Enough” Isn’t Mediocre 01:31 Identity, Workism, and Diversifying Your Life 03:25 From Perfect Parent to Good Enough Job 07:20 Busting the Dream Job and 12:00 Work-as-Family Myths 19:03 Practical Steps: Calendars, Time Sanctuaries, and Small Changes 26:32 Recap and Free Resource: Making Time For What Matters Most https://thirdpath.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Creating-Time-for-Wellbeing.pdf Find out more at: https://thirdpath.org/ Join our Facebook ThirdPath Collective Group to continue the conversation with like-minded leaders, parents, and others: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thirdpathinst If you’re feeling inspired by our work, please consider donating to ThirdPath today! We are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and we rely on donations from supporters like you to make our programming happen. You can donate here: https://argentasoftware.com/interfaces/tpath/frmDonationForm.aspx Subscribe to our Newsletter here: https://thirdpath.org/subscribe/

    36 min
  3. Boundary Setting at Work & Home: The Triple-Win Approach (feat. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang)

    10/09/2025

    Boundary Setting at Work & Home: The Triple-Win Approach (feat. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang)

    Join us for a thought-provoking episode with bestselling author Alex Soojung-Kim Pang, who shares why working less can mean working smarter. Discover practical strategies for designing a four-day workweek, optimizing routines, and building boundaries that support deeper rest and creativity. The hosts and guests open up about their own journeys, from leading family businesses to transforming their home routines, giving you both inspiration and actionable insights. If you’re seeking fresh motivation to create more joy, focus, and balance in your life, this episode will leave you with tools and stories to take your Third Path with purpose. 00:11 Introduction to Alex Soojung-Kim Pang and Key Concepts 01:08 Practices for Working Smarter 02:22 Morning Routine as a Game Changer 06:28 Transforming Organizations: The Four-Day Workweek 15:25 Boundary Setting: At Home and Work 17:00 Karin's Personal Story: Family Business & Boundaries 20:06 Overcoming Challenges: Coaching and Support 25:21 Collective Boundary Setting for Long-Term Change 38:39 Practical Takeaways & Closing Reflections Find out more at: https://thirdpath.org/ Join our Facebook ThirdPath Collective Group to continue the conversation with like-minded leaders, parents, and others: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thirdpathinst If you’re feeling inspired by our work, please consider donating to ThirdPath today! We are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and we rely on donations from supporters like you to make our programming happen. You can donate here: https://argentasoftware.com/interfaces/tpath/frmDonationForm.aspx Subscribe to our Newsletter here: https://thirdpath.org/subscribe/

    45 min
  4. Team at Home; Team at Work. Featuring: Morra Aarons-Mele

    14H AGO

    Team at Home; Team at Work. Featuring: Morra Aarons-Mele

    Welcome to Taking Your Third Path, the podcast where courageous stories and hard‑won wisdom help you build a life of intention, connection, and care at work and at home. In this episode, host Jessica DeGroot talks with Morra Aarons‑Mele, host of The Anxious Achiever, about creating a team at home and a team at work so you can thrive in both places instead of constantly feeling like you are doing it all alone. You will hear practical examples of family rituals like “forced family fun,” honest reflections on anxiety and capacity, and how neurodivergent leaders can lean into their superpowers by building trust and delegating well. ​ In part two, Melissa speaks with longtime ThirdPath advocate and HR leader Judy Hughes about delegation as a growth tool, not just a way to get things off your plate, and how to avoid “dump‑truck delegation” by being intentional, collaborative, and clear about expectations. Together, these conversations offer concrete ideas you can try right away at home, at work, and with your broader community, to create strong, sustainable teams and more integrated lives. 00:00 – Welcome & Morra’s introduction: teams at home and at work 04:35 – Forced Family Fun (FFF), traditions, and modeling family time for kids 07:00 – Guilt, caregiving, and intentionally building a modern family team 13:00 – Neurodivergence, anxious achievers, and leaning on strengths at work 29:37 – Overcoming overwhelm with Judy Hughes: thoughtful delegation with collaboration 48:30 – Key takeaways, ThirdPath tools, and next steps on your Third Path For more ideas about how to put these skills into action, we have a book called The ThirdPath Leader. It has six exercises that will help you build a team at home and a team at work, with case studies of people who put these ideas into practice. Find it at Book Baby and Amazon. Book Baby: https://store.bookbaby.com/book/the-thirdpath-leader?srsltid=AfmBOopTE1xj0Utj2UM68v8mGIzw3qJFWK0oJE4owJGmZ-fS4e5o7txH Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ThirdPath-Leader-Reimagining-Work-Leadership/dp/1667855980/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QAD4CNJUH7EX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7TLrgG-B1oVZtRrrx5_3uw.jfaI7HSI437OIOFIyd9mWLryXmYAwaSbNC8Gk3foEOs&dib_tag=se&keywords=THirdpath+leader&qid=1768414734&sprefix=thirdpath+lead%2Caps%2C276&sr=8-1 Find out more at: https://thirdpath.org/ Join our Facebook ThirdPath Collective Group to continue the conversation with like-minded leaders, parents, and others: / thirdpathinst If you’re feeling inspired by our work, please consider donating to ThirdPath today! We are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and we rely on donations from supporters like you to make our programming happen. You can donate here: https://argentasoftware.com/interface... Subscribe to our Newsletter here: https://thirdpath.org/subscribe/

    59 min

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Together we can advocate for workplaces that support care for ourselves, our children, and our aging loved ones. When both work and life goals are supported, people can bring their best selves to work, and we also create more inclusive workplaces. Get inspired by experts, parents and leaders who are putting these ideas into action and learn how to implement them in your own lives and workplaces.