I just listened to “Talk Story” for the first time and loved it! The podcast, ranging from Jacques’ story of his grandmother from Haiti and France, to Alec’s story of his great-grandfather venturing from Lebanon to the United States, to their enthusiastic exchange of ideas, riveted me. I really liked the way Alec framed the conversation, asking Jacques to talk about his own room, his creative space. Jacques described how he feels his creativity as an actor, writer, and storyteller is nurtured by being surrounded by things he loves, such as his favorite books and guitar, just as his grandmother filled her home in France with Haitian treasures. In contrast, Alec said he creates best in an ordered, relatively clear space. Jacques recalled how important it was for him to see his grandmother’s prized possessions, such as cooking utensils and other objects she brought from Haiti, covering her home’s walls while he listened to her stories.
They discussed how a favorite book, The Alchemist, strongly influenced them when they were younger. (Now I must read it!) Alec’s affirming tone elicited Jacques’ account of his personal mission, his determination to “slay the dragons” of noncommunication, misunderstanding, and bipartisanism in this country—by listening intently to people across the political spectrum, by attending protests to listen to real people. If we would truly listen to each other—no matter how crazy or terrible others’ views appear to be—Jacques believes that we can open ourselves to bridge seemingly unbridgeable rifts, that good things will happen to people, and that individuals will bring about peace.
These young men’s intelligence, insights, honesty, and idealism have made me feel hopeful for the first time in months. Thank you, Alec! Thank you, Jacques!
