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The COVID-19 pandemic has turned many workplaces upside down, with new demands and expectations from companies and employees alike.

Cam and Ewan dive into the changes underway, how some employees are adapting, and discuss some idea about how to survive this tumultuous time in the office. Don't miss it.

Talking Shop Podcast Cam MacMurchy and Ewan Christie

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    • 5.0 • 2 Ratings

The COVID-19 pandemic has turned many workplaces upside down, with new demands and expectations from companies and employees alike.

Cam and Ewan dive into the changes underway, how some employees are adapting, and discuss some idea about how to survive this tumultuous time in the office. Don't miss it.

    Twitter's New Office Vernacular, Amazon Goes to Court, and Scabby the Inflatable Rat

    Twitter's New Office Vernacular, Amazon Goes to Court, and Scabby the Inflatable Rat

    This week's show opens with an announcement on the podcast's future, so give it a listen and see what's coming! We can't wait.

    For our last show prior to the summer break, we sped through several issues including the White House stepping in to block non-compete clauses, Amazon's backtracking on its dispute resolution process after customers found an innovative way to make the e-commerce giant squirm, and speaking of 'giant', a massive inflatable rat has landed in court in the United States!

    Tech companies have been experimenting with changes to their working styles, with some opting for more flexibility and others demanding employees return to the office. Twitter is focusing, instead, on the vernacular around remote work. In fact, the social network doesn't even like the term 'remote work' because it's not inclusive enough (which left us scratching our heads). You might be surprised what they prefer instead.

    In Check This Out, Ewan looks at a documentary that looks back on the disaster that was Woodstock '99, while Cam looks back as well (much further) on the life of Joan Rivers and how she's viewed today in light of the #MeToo movement.

    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by signing up for the PR & Law Podcast newsletter at PRLawPodcast.club. We promise: no spam. Ever.

    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook with the account name PRLawPodcast. You are also welcome to subscribe to our channels on YouTube and Soundcloud.

    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.

    Full links and show notes are available on the PR & Law Podcast official website at PRandLawPodcast.com.

    • 41 min
    Don't Do This on Slack, and Don't Say This, Either!

    Don't Do This on Slack, and Don't Say This, Either!

    With everything going digital in workplaces, it's getting harder and harder to keep secrets or speak with others in confidence. Three leaders in Netflix's marketing team found this out the hard way after they were fired for making disparaging remarks about the executive team at Netflix. Ewan walks us through what happened with advice on avoiding a similar fate. Cam mentions that several parts of the story haven't yet been made public, leading to damaging speculation.
    In the PR segment, Cam walks listeners through creating a media brief or issues scan for executives. These are documents that companies, governments, NGOs and other organizations prepare for any executives about to do a media interview. Then he shares a list of terms of all professionals should avoid in their work. There's bound to be something in the list that you've used before!
    In Check This Out, Ewan talks about the disruption facing the film industry while Cam goes hip-hop with a Canadian rapper talking about the birth of the music genre in the United States.
    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by https://prlawpodcast.club/ (signing up) to the PR and Law Podcast newsletter. We promise: no spam. Ever.
    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on https://linkedin.com/in/prlawpodcast (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/prlawpodcast (Twitter), https://instagram.com/prlawpodcast (Instagram), and https://facebook.com/prlawpodcast (Facebook). You can also subscribe to our channels on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrKssq1REhnQb3lHhCXL7GQ (YouTube) and https://soundcloud.com/user-697756979 (Soundcloud).
    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.
    Links and Show Notes
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-fires-execs-over-slack-comments-1234982361/?campaign_id=4andemc=edit_dk_20210716andinstance_id=35478andnl=dealbookandregi_id=134679776andsegment_id=63622andte=1anduser_id=32b5069903a52a1112893d85c3ff0a9f (Netflix Fires Marketing Execs for Criticizing Bosses Over Slack) - The Hollywood Reporter
    https://www.vox.com/recode-media-podcast (Recode Media with Peter Kafka) - Vox
    https://digiday.com/tag/podcasts/ (Digiday Podcast) - Digiday
    Check This Out
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/black-widow-premium-vod-reveal-shocked-hollywood-1234983101/ (Why Disney's 'Black Widow' Premium VOD Reveal Rattled Hollywood) - The Hollywood Reporter
    https://www.netflix.com/title/80141782 (The Hip-Hop Evolution) - Netflix
    Hosts
    Ewan Christie is an employment lawyer in Toronto, Canada.
    Cam MacMurchy is a corporate communications executive with a multinational technology company listed in Hong Kong and curator of the http://signupfor.digitalbits.today/ (Digital Bits PR) and Communications newsletter. He also contributes to Apple news website https://9to5mac.com/ (9to5Mac) and shares his thoughts on PR, media, travel, and technology on his https://cammacmurchy.com/ (website).

    • 45 min
    Why Content is So Important and Iceland's 4-day Work Week

    Why Content is So Important and Iceland's 4-day Work Week

    Companies have more tools than ever to broadcast their own messages, whether it's via a website, podcasts, newsletters, social media, or all of the above. Breene Murphy from https://carboncollective.co (Carbon Collective) and the Forbes Communications Council joins the show this week to share his own experience with content marketing, as well as examine Andreessen Horowitz's decision to launch its own publication called Future (which we discussed at length in https://www.prand.law/episode/episode-61-paternity-leave-post-pandemic-andreessen-horowitz-future-website-journalism (Episode #61)). Content can help give a company a louder voice in a noisy marketplace, but Murphy talks about some other benefits that comms people and marketers might overlook.
    We talk a lot about the future of work these days, particularly as we emerge from the global pandemic. Ewan shares a new study done in Iceland about a four-day work week, something that was obviously popular with workers. The thing is, the experiment also proved to be useful for employers. Ewan explains why.
    In Check This Out we return to Britney Spears and her controversial conservatorship, while Cam brings up cancel culture and the case of a brave musician from the band Mumford and Sons.
    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by https://prlawpodcast.club/ (signing up) to the PR and Law Podcast newsletter. We promise: no spam. Ever.
    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on https://linkedin.com/in/prlawpodcast (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/prlawpodcast (Twitter), https://instagram.com/prlawpodcast (Instagram), and https://facebook.com/prlawpodcast (Facebook). You can also subscribe to our channels on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrKssq1REhnQb3lHhCXL7GQ (YouTube) and https://soundcloud.com/user-697756979 (Soundcloud).
    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.
    Links and Show Notes
    https://www.prand.law/episode/episode-61-paternity-leave-post-pandemic-andreessen-horowitz-future-website-journalism (Episode #61: Andreessen Horowitz Launches Future) - PR and Law Podcast
    https://qz.com/work/2029888/icelands-four-day-workweek-trial-bodes-well-for-productivity/ (Iceland's Four-Day Work Week Trial was a Triumph for All) - Quartz
    Check This Out
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/american-chronicles/britney-spears-conservatorship-nightmare (Britney Spears's Conservatorship Nightmare) - The New Yorker
    https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/winston-marshall-was-bloody-terrified (Substack: Winston Marshall was 'Bloody Terrified' to Quit Mumford and Sons. He Tells Me Why.) - Common Sense with Bari Weiss
    Guest
    Breene Murphy is the vice president of strategy and marketing for https://carboncollective.co/ (Carbon Collective), an online climate friendly investment management platform. He is on the Forbes Communication Council, the advisory board for the University of California Irvine's Customer Experience Certificate Program as well as the advisory board for USC's Wrigley Institute for Environmental Studies. He's a second generation marketer and an avid literature fan and surfer. He lives in Laguna Beach, California with his wife and two sons.
    Hosts
    Ewan Christie is an employment lawyer in Toronto, Canada.
    Cam MacMurchy is a corporate communications executive with a multinational technology company listed in Hong Kong and curator of the http://signupfor.digitalbits.today/ (Digital Bits PR) and Communications newsletter. He also contributes to Apple news website https://9to5mac.com/ (9to5Mac) and shares his thoughts on PR, media, travel, and technology on his https://cammacmurchy.com/ (website).

    • 40 min
    A PR Master Creates a Big Ol' PR Mess, LinkedIn's New Pronouns, and Critical Race Theory

    A PR Master Creates a Big Ol' PR Mess, LinkedIn's New Pronouns, and Critical Race Theory

    We ran through more topics on Episode 63 than we have in any other previous episode! (And somehow managed to keep it under an hour...)

    We kicked off the show by mentioning the major anniversaries that are clustered in early July: Canada Day falls on July 1, as does the anniversary of Hong Kong's return to Chinese sovereignty. There's Independence Day in the US on July 4, of course -- and one more: the 100th anniversary of the Communist Party of China. It might not get the same attention in western media, but it might be the most important anniversary among the group. Cam talks about why.

    Ewan dives right back into the future of work this week with new questions over the value of meeting in person or via chat and video conferencing apps. Is innovation more likely to happen in person? Do we even know?

    Cam touches on LinkedIn's decision to roll out new pronoun options, and also looks at Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba's decision to call out a reporter in public on its website. It's a power move that we're starting to see done more often. We also get into the fall of Teneo CEO Declan Kelly and how the #MeToo movement has upped the ante on misbehaving executives.

    In Check This Out, Ewan talks Tarantino (as in Quentin) while Cam carefully wades into the hottest debate happening in the US these days: critical race theory.

    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by signing up for the PR & Law Podcast newsletter at PRLawPodcast.club. We promise: no spam. Ever.

    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook with the account name PRLawPodcast. You are also welcome to subscribe to our channels on YouTube and Soundcloud.

    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.

    Full links and show notes are available on the PR & Law Podcast official website at PRandLawPodcast.com.

    • 54 min
    Who Wore Their Apology Better: Jeffrey Toobin or Chrissy Teigen?

    Who Wore Their Apology Better: Jeffrey Toobin or Chrissy Teigen?

    Episode #62 marks our last show in June, so what better way to welcome in the summer months than by examining two high profile and embarrassing scandals.
    Cam and Ewan return to the awkward Jeffrey Toobin apology and explanation live on CNN, but this time look at it from CNN's perspective. Unlike the New Yorker, where Toobin worked for 27 years, CNN didn't fire Toobin and found a way to bring him back onto the channel's airwaves. They didn't try and bury Toobin's return, either -- they went head-first into the scandal and asked Toobin very direct and personal questions to try and clear the air. It seems to have worked. The same can't be said for Chrissy Teigen, who is also mired in scandal after trolling people on Twitter for years. She hasn't found the same acceptance despite her apology, and the hosts discuss why.
    We also look at the changing workplace and how COVID continues to change expectations and preferences for both companies and their employees. One trend on the rise - and was even gaining steam before the pandemic - is contract or freelance workers. Ewan walks us through what's happening, why this might be a good choice for employees, and what the pitfalls might be.
    In Check This Out, Ewan shares an in-depth look at Amazon and its employee relations in light of the failed union drive in Bessemer, Alabama, while Cam shares https://twitter.com/antumbral/status/1407861007209222151?s=20 (this crazy thing). Yeah, we're not sure what it means either.
    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by https://prlawpodcast.club/ (signing up) to the PR and Law Podcast newsletter. We promise: no spam. Ever.
    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on https://linkedin.com/in/prlawpodcast (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/prlawpodcast (Twitter), https://instagram.com/prlawpodcast (Instagram), and https://facebook.com/prlawpodcast (Facebook). You can also subscribe to our channels on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrKssq1REhnQb3lHhCXL7GQ (YouTube) and https://soundcloud.com/user-697756979 (Soundcloud).
    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.
    Links and Show Notes
    https://content.randstad.ca/hubfs/workforce2025/Workforce-2025-Randstad-Part1.pdf (Workforce 2025: The Future of the World of Work) - Randstad
    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/364369/jeff-toobins-cnn-comeback-is-a-crisis-pr-primer-f.html (Jeffrey Toobin's CNN Comeback is a Crisis PR Primer for Scandal-Ridden Washington) - MediaPost
    Episode #32: Jeffrey Toobin's Embarrassing Zoom Call - PR and Law Podcast
    https://chrissyteigen.medium.com/hi-again-3bb3faffa76d (Hi Again) - Chrissy Teigen (Medium)
    Check This Out
    https://harpers.org/archive/2021/07/hard-bargain-amazon-unionization-bessemer-alabama/ (Hard Bargain: How Amazon Turned a Generation Against Labor) - Harper's Magazine
    https://twitter.com/antumbral/status/1407861007209222151?s=20 ("This Chart is a Work of Art") - Katelyn Gadd (Twitter)


    Hosts
    Ewan Christie is an employment lawyer and partner at https://duntrune.law/ (Duntrune LLP) in Toronto, Canada.
    Cam MacMurchy is a corporate communications executive with a multinational technology company listed in Hong Kong and curator of the http://signupfor.digitalbits.today/ (Digital Bits PR) and Communications newsletter. He also contributes to Apple news website https://9to5mac.com/ (9to5Mac) and shares his thoughts on PR, media, travel, and technology on his https://cammacmurchy.com/ (website).

    • 45 min
    Will the Pandemic Affect Paternity Leave?

    Will the Pandemic Affect Paternity Leave?

    It was a busy show this week, with Ewan and Cam discussing everything from Covid vaccinations to Netscape; Christiano Rinaldo to Alexander Hamilton. So let's get started.

    Paternity leave is a subject people love to debate. Policies on fathers taking leave to help out at home when a newborn comes along vary widely by jurisdiction -- but it could be just another fact of work life that is changing in a post-pandemic world. Millennials and Gen Zers are pushing for more progressive paternity leave policies and seeing some early victories. Ewan looks at the issue in detail, talks about what works and what doesn't, and why it's suddenly getting so much attention.

    Cam talked about a big step taken by one of the most famous venture capital firms in the world, which decided to forego traditional media coverage and simply build their own tech news website. Tensions have been rising between Silicon Valley and the journalists who cover it, so the decision by Andreessen Horowitz to launch their own site, Future, could be a harbinger of things to come for other firms, too. Cam looks at why a16z felt compelled to build the site, and what it means for both in-house PR teams and journalists.

    In Check This Out, Ewan debunks the crazy rumor that soccer star Christiano Rinaldo removing a Coke from a table led to a share plunge, while Cam recommends the new movie/musical In The Heights despite its creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda, coming under fire for "colorism" in casing the film. In the Heights was Miranda's first Broadway hit before he wrote Hamilton.

    Don't miss any future episodes and get updates about the podcast by signing up for the PR & Law Podcast newsletter at PRLawPodcast.club. We promise: no spam. Ever.

    If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend or family member. It's the best way to get the word out and we are very grateful! We also frequently post updates to the stories we discuss on social media. You can find us on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook with the account name PRLawPodcast. You are also welcome to subscribe to our channels on YouTube and Soundcloud.

    If you have a question we would be happy to answer it on the show! Just post it to social media with the hashtag #PRLawPod.

    Full links and show notes are available on the PR & Law Podcast official website at PRandLawPodcast.com.

    • 52 min

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