Talking Walking

Andrew Stuck

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Listen to artists, specialists and walkers talking about how walking inspires their work and shapes our world.

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Marlene Creates talking walking

In May 2025, multi-award-winning Canadian photographer and environmental artist Marlene Creates is in Brighton, England, and Andrew Stuck takes the opportunity to meet her there. They are walking in woodland not far from Preston Park train station and Andrew invites her to compare their surroundings to where she lives on the island of Newfoundland off the east coast of mainland Canada. Marlene uses the 6-acre patch of old-growth boreal forest where she lives as an outdoor studio and now spends much of her time there observing how it changes with the seasons, photographing what she sees, and writing poetry to describe the unseen. She’s been sharing this forest with primary school children, inviting them to go on multidisciplinary guided walks to learn about the nature of their local ecosystem, as well as concurrently bringing back to light terms in the Newfoundland dialect through video-poems. Andrew and Marlene chat about her unusual field research back in the 1980s, when she came to Britain and rode thousands of miles on a 1968 Vespa motor scooter, and they discuss her walking art practice. The podcast ends with her reading a list poem composed of over 100 verbs that describe ways of walking. We retreated indoors to make the recording of Marlene reciting the poem. She also shared other words and phrases related to walking that she found in the Dictionary of Newfoundland English that she would like to be brought back into common parlance. 39’43” 21MB Marlene Creates_podcast notesDownload Feature Image credit: Bernard Fougères

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Anna Viola Hallberg talking walking

Andrew Stuck has come to Sweden to an area 3 hours drive north of Stockholm, at the northern tip of the Stockholm Archipelago on the Baltic coast to interview Anna Viola Hallberg a video maker turned Walking Artist, the curator of the WAP coalition of walking artists – a residency based at Björkö Konstnod / BKN . His trip is part of The Walking Arts in Local Communities (WALC) 4 year project that is part funded by the EU Creative Europe programme, as the WAP coalition of walking artists has been nominated as a node. These nodes are to extend the network beyond the original seven partners in five European countries who are promoting walking art within their local communities. The WAP coalition of walking artists is relatively new but has already gained significant recognition through the efforts of Anna Viola and a cohort of almost 200 artists. Andrew has had the opportunity of staying with Anna Viola and taking part within their residency for a week before he interviews her. It’s a Sunday morning at the start of the Swedish summer holidays at the beginning of July. 34’42” 16.3MB Download notes from this interview: Anna_Viola_HallbergDownload

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Matt Gilbert talking walking

Matt Gilbert, the author of the ‘Richly Evocative’ blog has had a collection of poetry published recently called ‘Street Sailing’. Andrew Stuck and Matt are on a walk together through Dulwich Woods part of the Great North Wood, an area where Matt volunteered to undertake conservation work. Frequently walking through the woods has been key to much of Matt’s creative writing process and in their conversation, Matt talks about his approach to writing prose as well as to writing poetry, and gives insight into the contemporary poets who have influenced and inspired him. Although brought up in Bristol, Matt spent much of his life in West Norwood, what one newspaper described as “an anonymous suburb of South London” – a remark that has rattled Matt and prompted him to write the ‘Richly Evocative’ blog. 22’57” 10.8MB Download details of items mentioned in this interview: Matt_Gilbert_podcast_notesDownload

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Emily Wilkinson talking walking

Graphic designer, illustrator. art and health practitioner, turned Walking Artist, writer and Desire Lines podcast producer, Emily Wilkinson is now studying for a PhD researching therapeutic landscapes. Based in north east Wales, it is not practical for Andrew Stuck to meet her in person and go for a walk, and instead they record an interview over a Zoom call. Perhaps it is a little indulgent on Andrew’s part to be interviewing a fellow podcaster, but in doing so Emily reveals a lot about the value she places on writing (as a portable art form), and on listening and recording conversations. She believes Walking Art can contribute to building confidence in the young and generating creative opportunities for marginal groups as well as for others. 30’15” 14.6MB Download notes of items mentioned in the interview with Emily Wilkinson Emily Wilkinson_podcast_notes_APPDownload

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Pau Cata talking walking

Pau Cata presented at the Walking Arts and Relational Geographies conference, held in Girona, Catalonia, in July 2024. After his talk, they set off together on a slow walk through the city’s historic streets — partly in search of somewhere to pause, where Pau could enjoy a beer and Andrew a coffee. Pau is a walking historian, researcher, and curator whose practice bridges art, geography, and cultural mobility. He has coordinated several significant initiatives, including the Center for Research and Creativity Casamaleas (CeRCCa), North Africa Cultural Mobility Map (NACMM), and the HARAKAT Platform. Over the past decade, he has developed an extensive body of research in Morocco and across parts of North and Saharan Africa, focusing on mapping and documenting artist residencies and creative networks that have often been overlooked or underrepresented in Western art discourses. His work seeks to understand alternative, non-Western approaches to creativity and exchange — exploring how movement, migration, and collaboration shape artistic practice. Through a mixture of happenstance and deep engagement with place, Pau has also participated in collaborative research along trans-Saharan trade routes — journeys that, fittingly, have frequently unfolded on foot. Since 2020, his ongoing inquiries have been framed withinthe Art Residency Research Collective (ARRc) , where he continues to investigate residencies as spaces of encounter, knowledge exchange, and relational geography. 26’08” 12.3MB Pau_Cata_podcast_notesDownload

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Emma Cunis talking walking

After 20 years of corporate life, international travel, and living overseas, Emma Cunis had been diagnosed with ME Chronic Fatigue. She returned to Dartmoor where she had grown up as a child and slowly but surely walked herself back to better health. She subsequently set up a guiding business that she calls “Dartmoor’s Daughter”, helping others on their personal transformative journeys through getting closer to nature. Living in London without a car, as Andrew Stuck does, getting to Dartmoor in the far south west of England, to undertake an interview, was challenging, so Emma and he agreed to record the interview on a Zoom call. He is intrigued by her choice of “Dartmoor’s Daughter” as a business name, and how she makes a living as a walking professional, but he is also interested in what aspects of corporate life she has been able to apply as well as what aspects of walking she feels would benefit those in the corporate world. 28’39” 13.4MB Download notes from this interview: Emma_Cunis_podcast_notesDownload Stone circle in ancient Dartmoor Foraging and dowsing in ancient Dartmoor

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Richard White talking walking

Although they’ve known each other for over a decade, it has not been easy for Andrew Stuck to find an opportunity to record a conversation with Richard White. An opportune moment arises as Richard comes to London for his granddaughter’s birthday and he joins Andrew Stuck on a walk together in Nonsuch Park on the outskirts of south west London. Richard was an early pioneer in producing located media, uncovering overlooked or intentionally erased histories. Walking is integral to every stage in Richard’s creative practice: he organises and hosts group walks as part of his research, and in recovering, processing and embedding memory. This embodied engagement with place and landscape is also key to the development and placement of media; sound is essential to the live experience and through which his audiences experience any final GPS located composition. Although still using locative media apps, Richard’s practice has evolved using handheld blue tooth speakers and silent disco kit as part of a live performative walking experience. Richard recently co-edited and contributed to “Breaking the Dead Silence” a collection of essays published by Liverpool University Press on memoryscapes and obscured histories in the aftermath of the toppling of the Colston statue in Bristol. He recently undertook a research fellowship in south Australia walking the thread of empire and botany. Richard’s current project ‘Finding Country’ attends to the landscape and built environment of North Somerset (UK), terraformed by enslavers and colonial extraction. The project is a ‘walking-with’ the legacies of wealth extracted from colonised lands and peoples manifested in the English countryside and country house. In the project Richard draws on and seeks to articulate his walking research in Adelaide, South Australia, walking and asking questions, re-telling stories back into the landscape 41’57” 19.7MB Download notes from this interview: Richard_White_podcast_notes_FINALDownload

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Janice Jensen talking walking

Andrew Stuck is in Sweden at Björkö-Konstnod (BKN) in the northern Stockholm archipelago to join the Walking as Practice artist residency of which he is going to be part. Among the artists there was Janice Jensen from Germany, whose work Andrew has come across since Janice was shortlisted for the 2023 Marŝarto Award for Walking Art. Janice has just demonstrated a “Drawing by Walking” mechanism that she has created as the first step in an elaborate process to draw the walks she makes. Their conversation takes place on a walk along an unsealed road early on, on a July evening. 20’24” 9.6MB Download notes from this interview: Janice_Jensen_podcast_notesDownload

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Saira Niazi talking walking

The people Andrew Stuck interviews tend to be talented, resourceful and resilient or a combination of each, one might describe them as ‘can do’ people. Saira Niazi is not only a ‘can do’ but is a ‘has done’ and ‘will do’. She has worked in many roles, between jobs, a dozen or so years ago she set up Living London, leading walking tours that she called ‘Wanderings’, seeking out ‘hidden gems’ in part to satisfy her own curiosity and finding others to share her discoveries. Saira is a recent recipient of a Winston Churchill Fellowship and travelled to New York and San Francisco seeking out what she calls ‘Renegade Guides’ those have a similar passion for exploration and sharing knowledge. She has returned home to Tooting in south west London and written and published the ‘Renegade Guide Handbook’. 22’51” 10.7MB Download notes from this interview Saira_Niazi_podcast_notesDownload

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Dan Koop talking walking

For many the Covid pandemic has been a difficult time to live through, not least for the residents of Melbourne in Australia, who may well have had to endure the longest lockdown of any city. For Dan Koop, a curator and producer, the lockdown appears to have actually given him an opportunity to explore new ways of working, reconnecting with his immediate neighbourhood environment, as well as tackling common societal issues from a local perspective. Andrew Stuck catches up with him midway through an extended European trip of Dan’s on a sunny afternoon in July 2024. They are walking together along an unmade road on the outskirts of Girona in Spain. 20’12” 9.5 MB Flowing Loops documentation Dan leading Flowing Loops Field recording for Flowing Loops Dan_Koop_podcast_notes_

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