Treating Together

Targeted Oncology

Targeted Oncology brings you Treating Together, a podcast series designed to bring oncologists into meaningful, peer-driven conversations by focusing on real-world challenges, clinical relevance of emerging data, and bridging the gap between research and frontline oncology care across different cancer types.

  1. Jun 17

    Navigating the 505(b)(2) Pathway: Operational, Clinical, and Economic Strategies for Oncology Practices

    In this episode, managing editor Sabrina Serani sits down with 3 experts at the intersection of oncology pharmacy, health informatics, and drug distribution to unpack the 505(b)(2) regulatory pathway and what it means for cancer centers navigating today's complex drug landscape. Guests: Jessica White, PharmD, Vice President, Specialty Programs & Portfolio Management at McKesson Derek Burns​, PharmD, Senior Director, MID Solutions at McKesson Nick Brady​, Director, Health Informatics at Central Arkansas Radiation Therapy Institute (CARTI)​ What We Cover:The 505(b)(2) Pathway Explained — Jessica breaks down how the 505(b)(2) new drug application differs from a traditional NDA, allowing drug developers to build on existing FDA-recognized data through bridging studies. The result: faster approvals, lower development costs, and drugs that improve on — rather than simply duplicate — what's already on the market. Why Oncology, Why Now — Nick explains how 505(b)(2) drugs address a critical pain point in oncology practice: supply disruption. When reference products go on allocation or become unavailable, these drugs provide a meaningful alternative — and in some cases, meaningful clinical improvements like reduced toxicity, modified dosage forms, or improved adherence. The Real Friction Points — Derek identifies where practices actually get stuck: not at the clinical level, but in operations. Launching without a brand name, missing J-codes, absent ASP data, and gaps in the CMS NDC crosswalk all create hesitation in revenue cycle teams. The underlying problem, he argues, is almost never resistance to innovation — it's undefined coverage, coding, and workflow clarity at launch. Who Needs to Be at the Table — Nick walks through Carti's internal adoption process, emphasizing that economic evaluation must run in parallel with patient impact assessment. A cross-functional team — pre-certification, pharmacy (both infusion and dispensing), billing and coding, and claims monitoring — needs to move together, with a single source of truth so that no one on the front lines is working from conflicting information. Practical Strategies for Adoption — The group converges on two key approaches: front-load organizational alignment before the first dose is given, and start narrow with a defined pilot population before any broad rollout. Derek and Jessica also stress the value of a designated practice champion who can coordinate across departments and pressure-test coverage and economics in advance. The Patient at the Center — When everything is working, patients experience seamless transitions between products, fewer delays, and — in some cases — therapies that are easier to tolerate and stay on. The panel emphasizes that a well-integrated 505(b)(2) strategy should be invisible to the patient while delivering real downstream clinical and economic benefit. Safety Considerations — Derek underscores that practices managing multiple agents within the same drug category face real risks around dispensing, billing, and administration if labeling and workflows aren't airtight. Jessica notes that the industry is correcting course, with more manufacturers now launching 505(b)(2) products with distinct brand names — reducing the risk of misidentification. Where the Pipeline Is Headed — Jessica closes with a look at the road ahead: more branded manufacturers entering the 505(b)(2) space, a growing pipeline from traditional generic manufacturers focused on oncology, and a strategic emphasis on supply redundancy and clinical improvements for older, well-established agents that have experienced drug shortages. Key Takeaways: Treat 505(b)(2) drugs as an operational, clinical, and financial tool, not just an economic play. Every oncology practice will likely carry multiple agents in the same category; managing that inventory safely is non-negotiable. If you've seen one 505(b)(2), you've seen one. Ask what's actually different, what the evidence supports, and how it fits your patients. "Not yet" is more accurate than "never": even practices not ready to adopt should be educating staff now.

    22 min
  2. Pediatric Blood Cancers: Building Better Outcomes Through Bold Science

    May 6

    Pediatric Blood Cancers: Building Better Outcomes Through Bold Science

    In this episode of the Treating Together podcast, host Pallav Mehta, MD, medical oncologist at MD Anderson Cancer Center at Cooper University Health Care and medical director of Reimagine Care, speaks with E. Anders (Andy) Kolb, MD, president and chief executive officer of Blood Cancer United (formerly The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society; LLS). Together, they unpack the major forces shaping change in pediatric hematologic malignancies—from biology to treatment/care delivery and advocacy—and how they converge to rapidly translate research into practice. Key Discussion PointsThe conversation explores the momentum in pediatric blood cancer research and treatment, highlighting how genomics, clinical trials, and large-scale initiatives are reshaping care. Highlights include: Distinct Biology Driving Different Treatment Needs: Advances in genomic profiling reveal that pediatric leukemias are biologically distinct from adult disease, with more structural mutations (eg, translocations) rather than targetable point mutations—limiting applicability of many adult therapies. Barriers to Progress in Pediatric Myeloid Malignancies: Despite advances, progress in pediatric myeloid malignancies lags behind due to fewer actionable targets and limited drug development incentives. Clinical Trials as the Backbone of Care: Unlike adult oncology, trial participation is deeply embedded in pediatric care, with high enrollment rates driven by limited approved therapies, strong cooperative group infrastructure, and family motivation. Measuring Impact Beyond Survival: Beyond traditional end points like overall survival, the concept of life years saved highlights the long-term impact of curing children and informs research prioritization. Survivorship as a Research Driver: Long-term treatment effects (eg, infertility, organ damage) shape modern trial design, with increasing efforts to reduce toxicity and replace chemotherapy with targeted or immune-based therapies. Global Efforts Accelerating Progress: Initiatives like Blood Cancer United’s Dare to Dream are advancing research, access, and advocacy for high-risk pediatric patients.

    29 min
  3. Choosing Wisely in CLL: A Deep Dive Into Frontline Treatment

    Apr 15

    Choosing Wisely in CLL: A Deep Dive Into Frontline Treatment

    In this episode of Treating Together, host Marc Braunstein, MD, PhD, associate professor of medicine at the NYU Perlmutter Cancer Center, sits down with Adam Kittai, MD, associate professor and director of the CLL and Lymphoma programs at NYU Perlmutter Cancer Center, for a deep dive into the rapidly evolving frontline treatment landscape in chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL). As chemotherapy continues to give way to targeted and time-limited therapies, clinicians face an increasingly complex array of choices, each influenced by disease biology, patient preferences, and emerging clinical trial data.  Key Discussion PointsThe episode focuses on the evolving frontline management of CLL and how clinicians can individualize therapy in an era of expanding options. Highlights include: Patient Evaluation and Diagnosis Considerations: Beyond traditional risk factors such as TP53 mutation and IGHV status, importance is also being placed on patient preference, comorbidities, and treatment goals (eg, time-limited vs continuous therapy) to guide treatment decisions. Therapy Selection and Sequencing Strategy: Dr Kittai offers his view on sequencing decisions in the front line: given the lack of robust comparative data, current evidence supports prioritizing the most appropriate upfront regimen rather than relying on uncertain sequencing strategies across agents. Insights From the AMPLIFY Trial (NCT03836261): With the recent February 2026 FDA approval of acalabrutinib (Calquence) plus venetoclax (Venclexta) in the front line, the discussion highlights progression-free survival (PFS) benefits seen in the AMPLIFY trial and favorable safety of the doublet. The Growing Role of Minimal Residual Disease (MRD): The discussion briefly pivots to the use of MRD testing in the clinic today, including data from trials like GLOW (NCT03462719) and FLAIR (EudraCT: 2013-001944-76), and its potential to guide treatment duration. Emerging Therapeutic Strategies in the Pipeline: The conversation looks to the future of CLL care, including Bruton tyrosine kinase (BTK) degraders, next-generation BCL-2 inhibitors, and novel combinations currently under investigation. Managing Richter’s Transformation: Dr Kittai covers evolving combination approaches for this aggressive cancer that aim to target both CLL and lymphoma biology, moving beyond chemoimmunotherapy.

    33 min
  4. Leveraging AI, Social Media, and Virtual Care in the Information Age

    Apr 1

    Leveraging AI, Social Media, and Virtual Care in the Information Age

    In this episode of Targeted Oncology’s Treating Together podcast, Dr Pallav Mehta sits down with Dr Sanjay Juneja, aka The Onc Doc, a medical oncologist known for his social media presence and his work in medical informatics. The duo explores how the landscape of cancer care is shifting from a "paucity of information" to a challenge of "information overload," and how technology can bridge the gap between clinical expertise and patient understanding. The Rise of the "Social" OncologistDr Juneja shares his transition from creating "theatrical" social media content to using his platform for democratizing medical information. Myth Busting: He initially focused on debunking cancer myths and explaining complex topics like vaccines and blood clots in digestible ways. Broad Reach: With millions of downloads across 110 countries, his content reaches a primary demographic of 40- to 45-year-olds who are often navigating cancer journeys for themselves or loved ones. The Power of Evergreen Content: Dr Juneja advocates for using video as a "digital smart phrase" to reinforce complex explanations (like receptor status or chemotherapy side effects) that patients may not fully absorb during a brief 15-minute clinic visit. AI and the Evolution of ExpertiseThe conversation highlights how AI is redefining what it means to be a medical expert. Pattern Recognition: Modern expertise is moving away from purely anecdotal experience toward the ability to leverage massive volumes of aggregate data and longitudinal outcomes through AI. Personalized Navigation: Large language models (LLMs) are beginning to integrate with medical records, potentially acting as "agents" that help patients filter online information to see if it specifically applies to their unique diagnosis. Digital Twins and Avatars: For physicians uncomfortable on camera, Dr Juneja discusses the potential for AI-generated avatars to deliver standardized, high-quality medical explanations to patients. Bridging the Gaps in CareBoth doctors emphasize the limitations of the current "point-to-point" interaction model and the need for continuous monitoring. Virtual Care Benefits: Remote care and wearable devices allow for the tracking of subtle, grade 1 toxicities that might otherwise be missed between monthly visits. The Emotional Quotient: While AI handles data, Dr Juneja argues that "emotion" and "quantified suffering" remain the unique domain of the human physician, helping patients navigate the regret and "gut feelings" associated with difficult treatment decisions. Trusting Intuition: Dr Juneja concludes by encouraging patients to act on their gut feelings and ask questions without fear of offending providers, noting that this is the best hedge against future regret.

    43 min
  5. Beyond the Hospital Walls: Expanding Access to Complex Cancer Therapies

    Mar 25

    Beyond the Hospital Walls: Expanding Access to Complex Cancer Therapies

    In this episode of the Treating Together podcast, host Dr Pallav Mehta, medical oncologist at MD Anderson Cancer Center at Cooper, assistant professor of medicine at Cooper Medical School, and medical director of Reimagine Care,sits down with Jorge Garcia, PharmD, founder of Patagonia Healthcare, for an in-depth conversation about the rapidly evolving landscape of advanced cancer therapies, from CAR-T cells and bispecific antibodies to gene therapies. Together, they explore what makes these treatments fundamentally different from traditional chemotherapy and immunotherapy, and why the systems built to deliver them must evolve just as quickly. The discussion covers the operational, financial, and clinical challenges facing health systems looking to bring bispecific therapies into community and outpatient settings — including reimbursement models, toxicity monitoring, caregiver education, and the critical role of oncology pharmacists. Dr Mehta and Dr Garcia also look ahead to the growing promise of technology, AI, and virtual care in enabling safer patient monitoring outside of hospital walls, and share their vision for a future where more patients can receive these transformative treatments closer to home. Whether you're a clinician, administrator, pharmacist, or healthcare innovator, this conversation offers a grounded and forward-looking perspective on what it will take to make cutting-edge cancer care accessible to all patients—not just those near major academic centers.

    41 min

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Targeted Oncology brings you Treating Together, a podcast series designed to bring oncologists into meaningful, peer-driven conversations by focusing on real-world challenges, clinical relevance of emerging data, and bridging the gap between research and frontline oncology care across different cancer types.

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