The Leadership Lounge

Cindy Hook

🎙️ The Leadership Lounge Podcast Hosted by Cindy Hook, Founder of Lifestyle Recruiters The Leadership Lounge is the go-to podcast where top executives in hospitality and retail share their journeys, insights, and proven strategies for scaling teams and driving business success. Each episode uncovers the real challenges and wins of industry leaders, giving listeners practical takeaways on leadership, innovation, recruitment, and growth. At Lifestyle Recruiters, we specialize in building dream teams for hospitality, retail, and consumer brands. Our signature approach combines AI-powered talent mapping with personalized video outreach, helping companies attract passive A-players, reduce hiring costs, and eliminate the stress of constant vacancies. By blending these two worlds — candid conversations with industry leaders and cutting-edge recruiting strategies — The Leadership Lounge delivers unique value for executives, hiring leaders, and anyone ready to level up in the competitive world of retail and hospitality. 💡 Why listen? Get insider lessons from VPs, GMs, and CEOs in hospitality and retail Learn practical strategies on scaling, culture-building, and market expansion Discover how Lifestyle Recruiters helps brands fill tough roles with ready-to-hire pipelines Access recruiting and leadership tips that save time, money, and talent headaches 👉 Tune in weekly to stay ahead in hospitality & retail leadership. 👉 Interested in being featured, sponsoring, or partnering? Contact Lifestyle Recruiters to learn more.

  1. 11/07/2025

    Turnarounds, franchising, and the power of mentorship with Troy Hooper

    In this Leadership Lounge episode, host Cindy Hook sits down with Troy Hooper, CEO of Hot Palate America (parent company of Pepper Lunch in the U.S.). Troy shares the uncommon arc of his career, moving from back-of-house culinary roles at Michelin-level restaurants into front-of-house leadership, a formative chapter at Procter & Gamble leading large teams, and ultimately into hospitality turnarounds, concept building, and brand scaling. The conversation explores what it really takes to lead teams through change, select markets, and operationalize a brand so it can grow. Troy explains how he approaches executive focus in high-growth phases, why he still obsesses over blocking and tackling in operations, and how he thinks about the balance between concept integrity and local adaptation. He also opens up about the hardest career pivots he has made, what “tough love” mentorship did for his leadership maturity, and the habits that keep him effective while on the road. What you’ll learn How culinary depth and front-of-house experience combine into a practical leadership style for scaling hospitality brandsThe role of systems thinking and team development in turnarounds and new market launchesA practical view of franchising readiness, site search, and how to compare comps when entering a new marketWhy mentorship and a strong network are force multipliers for career growthHow to evolve your leadership style as responsibilities and team size expand Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and guest intro02:00 Troy’s path from kitchen to leadership and early lessons shaping his management style08:00 The Procter & Gamble chapter and running large teams with discipline14:00 Turnaround management, consulting, and moving into brand leadership20:00 Pepper Lunch in the U.S. and what it takes to operationalize growth28:00 Franchising considerations, market selection, and location strategy36:00 Mentorship, tough feedback, and the network effect on career acceleration42:00 Final advice for emerging leaders in hospitality Key takeaways Leadership is learned in the trenches and refined through honest feedbackConsistency in operations is the foundation that makes creative concepts scalableThe best mentors do not just cheerlead, they challenge your assumptionsGrowth requires both a repeatable playbook and the humility to localize execution Guest Troy Hooper — CEO, Hot Palate America (Pepper Lunch) Host Cindy Hook — Leadership Lounge

    23 min
  2. 09/29/2025

    Better Mistakes Tomorrow: The Mindset of Modern Leaders

    Overview In this Leadership Lounge conversation, Cindy Hook sits down with Jeff Brainard (JJB Leadership Solutions) to unpack a 30-year journey from PR to resort operations, multi-property leadership, and ultimately the leap from a VP role to entrepreneurship. Jeff shares what it really takes to lead: being “brave for a minute,” building teams that outgrow you, hiring for hunger over résumé, and protecting life balance so you can show up at 100%. You’ll hear practical frameworks, candid stories, and the mindset shift from managing to leading, where people choose to follow. What You’ll Learn Why work–life balance isn’t optional and how it fuels better leadership.The difference between managers and leaders (hint: one-word followers).How to be “brave for a minute” and make decisions with incomplete information.The hiring litmus test: hungry vs. experienced (and why hunger wins 10/10 times).How to define success by the growth of your people, not just your P&L.A practical mantra: make “better mistakes tomorrow.” Highlights & Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome & origin story: From PR to hospitality leadership.04:30 – Stretch roles that accelerate growth: Running Sales and Revenue at once.09:10 – The big leap: Leaving a VP seat to build a consulting practice.13:45 – Balance as a performance tool: Why 100% at home enables 100% at work.18:20 – Decision-making under uncertainty: Being “brave for a minute.”22:10 – Hiring without regret: Spotting character, drive, and true pride points.26:40 – Redefining success: Track records of people you’ve developed.30:45 – One book that changed his thinking: The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership (John C. Maxwell).33:10 – Closing: Permission to fail and to learn faster. Memorable Lines “To be a hero doesn’t mean others aren’t it’s just being brave for a minute or two longer.”“I’ll hire hungry ten times out of ten over experienced.”“Make better mistakes tomorrow.”“Leadership vs. management? One word: followers.” Resources Mentioned Book: The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John C. Maxwell. About the Guest Jeff Brainard is the founder of JJB Leadership Solutions and a veteran hospitality leader with deep experience in sales, revenue, operations, and multi-property management. He helps teams elevate performance through practical leadership, hiring for character and drive, and culture-first execution. Connect & Continue the Conversation If this episode resonated, share it with a leader who could use a nudge to be “brave for a minute.” Subscribe for more candid, tactical leadership conversations from the field.

    18 min
  3. 09/12/2025

    The Peaceful Warrior at Work: Presence, Focus, and Better Teams

    Host: Cindy Hook Guest: Rian Kirkman - hospitality & marketing leader at VAI Resort (AZ) Episode summary Rian shares his journey from agency roles to leading marketing and guest experience on the client side, first across eight Caesars Entertainment properties in Las Vegas and now at VAI Resort in Arizona. We dig into pre-opening realities for a 60-acre, 1,100-room property with 12 restaurants and a built-in live entertainment venue, what “culture fit” really means when hiring (and when you must let people go), and why steady, mindful leadership beats adrenaline when everything is moving fast. Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome & Rian’s path into leadership01:20 – How LinkedIn opened the door to VAI Resort02:00 – Pre-opening realities: construction, pivots, and protecting guest experience03:56 – Lessons from Nobu Hospitality: standards, brand, and mentorship05:36 – Inside VAI: 60 acres, ~1,100 rooms, 12 restaurants, and balcony-view concerts06:41 – Hardest decision: when (and how) to let someone go for cultural health07:27 – Leadership philosophy: don’t get too high or too low—stay calm, stay present07:58 – Book that changed his thinking: The Way of the Peaceful Warrior Key takeaways Pre-opening at scale demands ruthless prioritization: ship what’s “right” for guests, not just what’s ready.Culture compounds. Hire for values and protect the team, even when the hard call is letting someone go.Steady beats flashy: leaders who stay even-keeled help teams navigate complexity and speed.Serendipity favors visibility: consistent LinkedIn engagement can create career inflection points.Design for energy: blending luxury with live entertainment can transform the guest experience. Notable quote “Don’t get too high or too low. Keep a level head so you can navigate whatever’s in front of you.”Guest links (optional to add) VAI Resort informationRian’s LinkedIn Call to action If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show and share it with a colleague who’s building teams or launching new concepts. Send guest suggestions or feedback to cindy.hook@lsrecruiters.com

    9 min
  4. 09/01/2025

    Guests, Teams, Results: Todd Felsen’s Trust-Driven Formula

    In this Leadership Lounge conversation, Cindy sits down with Todd Felsen, CEO of OTH Hotels & Resorts, to trace a 40-year arc in hospitality from falling in love with the show of Disney’s Polynesian Village as a kid, to starting as a doorman, to leading multi-property operations across the U.S. and Caribbean and ultimately running a hotel platform. Todd unpacks the operational heartbeat of great hotels, why he teaches teams the “circle of trust” (every function affects every guest touchpoint), how to hire better, and what today’s younger talent expects from leadership. He also shares lessons from island postings (Puerto Rico, Aruba), the link between guest delight and financial performance, and a surprising source of inspiration: the entertainment-driven reinvention of the Savannah Bananas a reminder that brand, community, and experience win. What you’ll learn The formative spark: seeing hospitality as theater and why showtime still matters.Todd’s path: doorman → front-of-house → GM → multi-unit leader → CEO.The Circle of Trust: how housekeeping, F&B, concierge, finance, and maintenance rise or fall together.Island leadership: operating as a guest in someone else’s country cultural humility, consistency, and standards.Hiring correctly: the selection discipline and interview questions that prevent costly misalignments.Developing Gen Z/younger teams: meeting them where they are (social platforms, rapid feedback, growth signals).Metrics that matter connecting guest experience to COGS, labor, RevPAR, and owner outcomes.Brand & experience: lessons from the Savannah Bananas on turning a business into a movement. Mentioned Disney’s Polynesian Village & Contemporary Resort (the early “showtime” spark)The Savannah Bananas story (Jesse Cole’s “fans-first” philosophy) as a branding/experience case study About our guest Todd Felsen is the CEO of OTH Hotels & Resorts, leading strategy, operations, and growth across a portfolio of properties. His leadership DNA blends hands-on operations, rigorous selection, and a guest-first, owner-aware mindset. Connect If this episode resonated, follow the show, share it with a hospitality leader, and drop us a note with the toughest leadership challenge you’re facing we may feature it in a future episode.

    21 min
  5. 08/27/2025

    Build Your Nest: Execution, Experimentation, and Community with Mark Hatch

    In this Leadership Lounge episode, Cindy sits down with Mark Hatch, founder of The Nest, a peer community built “like YPO for restaurant chain executives.” From a post-pandemic promotion to moderating calls with dozens of CMOs, Mark shares how relentless execution, small experiments, and the right room accelerate leadership growth. It’s a candid, fast-moving conversation about creating momentum in your career and building communities that lift everyone. Guest Mark Hatch, Founder of The Nest, a private network for restaurant chain executives focused on real-time problem solving, peer learning, and collaborative growth. Highlights 00:00–00:01 – Cindy’s welcome and the Leadership Lounge ethos: real stories over polished scripts.00:00:54–00:01:18 – “The Nest” origin story: a support group for restaurant chain leaders.00:02:19–00:02:42 – Who gets in: C-suite or head-of; skin in the game, no passengers.00:03:03–00:03:25 – Mark’s leadership inflection point: stepping into VP post-pandemic.00:03:44–00:03:53 – Hitting stride: moderating calls with ~30 CMOs.00:07:24–00:08:23 – Advice to your younger self: execute every time, and run smart experiments that drive revenue.00:11:29–end – Cindy on launching her first book and closing reflections. Key Takeaways Be the executor. “Be that person that executes every single time” credibility compounds.Experiment small, aim real. Try low-risk, high-signal tests that move revenue or outcomes, not just activity.Choose the room. A curated peer group (like The Nest) multiplies learning and shortens the path to better decisions.Own more than your job description. Growth often comes from value you create outside the lines.Momentum > perfection. Post-pandemic promotions and new communities happen when you ship, learn, iterate. Quotable “Do something outside your job responsibilities and be the person who executes every single time.” Connect & Support If today’s episode sparked ideas, follow the show for more candid conversations, and share it with a leader who needs a nudge to start their own “nest.”

    13 min
  6. 08/22/2025

    Messy Moments, Meaningful Wins: Ed Dodds on Leadership That Lasts

    Messy Moments, Meaningful Wins — Ed Dodds on Leadership That LastsHost: Cindy Hook Guest: Ed Dodd (hospitality/restaurant leader) Series: Leadership Lounge — honest conversations over polished speeches Episode summaryIn our premiere, Cindy trades scripted soundbites for real stories with hospitality leader Ed Dodds. From busy Friday-night service to team hiccups and hard resets, Ed shares how leadership is forged in the “messy, meaningful moments” owning mistakes, setting standards, and standing back up. If you manage people (or aspire to), this is a practical, no-gloss conversation about culture, accountability, and resilience. What you’ll learnWhy leadership isn’t lived in press releases or LinkedIn posts it’s built in day-to-day choicesHow service-industry pressures sharpen decision-making and team trustTactics for coaching after a stumble: name it, fix it, and move forwardBuilding culture intentionally (clarity of standards, feedback loops, role-modeling)How to stay calm in chaos: prioritize, communicate, executeOwning the room without burning people out (consistency > intensity) Suggested chapter guide (adjust to final edit)00:00 – Welcome: Why “Leadership Lounge” centers honest conversations02:00 – Ed’s path: From restaurants to leading teams10:00 – Messy moments: Stumbles that shaped his leadership20:00 – Culture & accountability: Standards, feedback, recovery30:00 – Operating under pressure: Service mindset and calm execution38:00 – Takeaways & close Notable quotes“Leadership isn’t lived in press releases or LinkedIn posts, but in the messy, meaningful moments that define us.” — Cindy Hook“You don’t learn much from perfection. You learn when you stumble—and how you stand back up.” — Ed Dodds Social caption (short)Leadership isn’t lived in press releases; it’s forged in the messy moments. 🎙️ Cindy Hook x Ed Dodds on culture, accountability, and standing back up. Listen now.

    29 min

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🎙️ The Leadership Lounge Podcast Hosted by Cindy Hook, Founder of Lifestyle Recruiters The Leadership Lounge is the go-to podcast where top executives in hospitality and retail share their journeys, insights, and proven strategies for scaling teams and driving business success. Each episode uncovers the real challenges and wins of industry leaders, giving listeners practical takeaways on leadership, innovation, recruitment, and growth. At Lifestyle Recruiters, we specialize in building dream teams for hospitality, retail, and consumer brands. Our signature approach combines AI-powered talent mapping with personalized video outreach, helping companies attract passive A-players, reduce hiring costs, and eliminate the stress of constant vacancies. By blending these two worlds — candid conversations with industry leaders and cutting-edge recruiting strategies — The Leadership Lounge delivers unique value for executives, hiring leaders, and anyone ready to level up in the competitive world of retail and hospitality. 💡 Why listen? Get insider lessons from VPs, GMs, and CEOs in hospitality and retail Learn practical strategies on scaling, culture-building, and market expansion Discover how Lifestyle Recruiters helps brands fill tough roles with ready-to-hire pipelines Access recruiting and leadership tips that save time, money, and talent headaches 👉 Tune in weekly to stay ahead in hospitality & retail leadership. 👉 Interested in being featured, sponsoring, or partnering? Contact Lifestyle Recruiters to learn more.