That Work Podcast

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Exploring creativity, culture, and the bts of the work + that work. For the work wifeys, by Tunisia Wilson. Follow @ThatWorkBTW podcast on Instagram for updates. for inquiries: hello@thisisbtw.com Produced by BTW Studios | thisisbtw.com

  1. 12/22/2025

    We Are The New Studios: AI + The Future of Storytelling Is Here [w/ Shirley Williams-Toney]

    Storytellers, creators, creatives lets gather for the Season Finale of That Work Podcast. In this episode, I talk to Shirley Williams-Toney, founder of Willie B. Studios (a creative house that has worked with all your favorite brands) to explore the evolving landscape of storytelling, creativity, and the impact of AI on the industry going into 2026. One thing is clear: WE ARE THE NEW STUDIOS. Two things for sure: storytelling transcends every platform, every era and every shift and I don't about you, I am ready. Follow @ThatWorkBTW on TikTok, Instagram + YouTube and follow Shirley @shirleyvernae + Willie B. Studios @willie.b.studios Episode Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Personal Background 06:50 The Journey into Storytelling and Creative Direction 16:05 The Birth of Willie B Studios 17:55 Cultural Resonance in Storytelling 25:30 Brands as Content Creators 30:54 The Future of Storytelling in a Changing Landscape 31:40 The Evolving Landscape of Creators 37:11 The Power of Social Media and Community Building 41:51 Navigating Personal Branding and Professional Expectations 45:08 Integrating AI into Creative Workflows 51:43 Rapid Fire Insights and Reflections 54:38 The Importance of Decision-Making in Creativity Happy Holidays!

    55 min

  2. 12/16/2025

    I Made Anxiety My B*tch

    Anxiety is a liar, things are happening for us, not to us, and workplace trauma can create the greatest soldiers, leaders, and creatives (if we let it). Episode Chapters: 00:00 Embracing Personal Growth Through Trauma 02:43 Navigating the Creative Chaos 05:06 The Impact of Workplace Trauma on Leadership 07:56 Finding Confidence in Vulnerability 10:34 Transforming Anxiety into Productivity 13:14 Lessons from Toxic Workplaces 16:13 Building Emotional Intelligence 18:41 The Importance of Collaboration 21:11 Healing and Moving Forward 23:32 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts Follow @ThatWorkBTW on Instagram + YouTube.

    19 min

  3. 12/09/2025

    The Outrage Economy Is Costing Us Our Emotional + Creative Budget

    Every time I open my phone, I feel pushed to be angry about something. The outrage economy is working overtime and the effect is real. It drains creativity. It drains compassion. It shows up in meetings, interviews, pitches, and anywhere we need clarity. Takeaway: Disengaging from noise protects your mind. Peace produces better ideas than panic. Episode Chapters: 00:00 The outrage economy is overwhelming 01:15 Welcome 03:05 Why I deactivated Twitter and Threads 06:45 Rage and creativity cannot coexist 09:10 The impact of repeated job loss headlines 12:00 The cost of constant reactiveness 15:20 Listener Letter: The overwhelmed empath 18:40 My advice to protect energy at work 21:05 Baddiemations 23:20 Key takeaways to stay grounded 25:40 Closing reminder about worth and workload Follow @ThatWorkBTW on Instagram for updates.

    18 min

  4. 12/02/2025

    We Won't All Be Chosen [And That's Ok]

    There's a quiet grief so many of us carry behind the degrees, the flights, the promotions, the accomplishments, and the soft life montages. Inspired by a TikTok from Les Alfred of She’s So Lucky, this conversation goes straight into the heartbreak of realizing some of us might not get the partnership we dreamed about, the ways successful Black women get punished in modern dating, and the pressure to hold it all together while feeling like we are never quite chosen in the spaces where it matters most. This episode is heavy, yes, but it is honest. It is soft. It is reflective. And it is for every corporate baddie, lover girl, and ambitious woman trying to make peace with life’s timeline, not society’s. Takeaway: Acceptance. Alignment. Openness. Self-worth. Hope is not delusion. Desire is not desperation. And acceptance is not giving up, it is releasing the pressure, the panic, and the performance. If we want love to find us, we cannot disappear inside fear. Staying open, aligned, and grounded in our worth is the path. Episode Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Personal Reflections: Tunisia sets the stage for a candid discussion on dating challenges. 03:00 - Challenges in the Dating World: Navigating the complexities of dating as a "successful" Black woman. 09:00 - Societal Expectations and Pressures: The impact of societal norms on personal relationships and self-worth. 15:00 - Acceptance and Choosing Oneself: Embracing self-acceptance and setting the tone for how others choose us. 21:00 - Finding Contentment and Self-Worth: Building a fulfilling life beyond societal expectations. 27:00 - Conclusion and Takeaways: Key reflections and encouragement for listeners to embrace their journey. Follow @ThatWorkBTW on Instagram.

    34 min

  5. 11/24/2025

    The Conversation We All Need [w/ Jillian O'Malior]

    What happens when a Black woman and a White woman sit down and actually tell the truth about work, race, privilege and layoffs? Meet Jillian O'Malior on TikTok, where she talks openly about the dumpster fire job market on TikTok and Corporate nihilism, and honestly, this episode just scratches the surface of the WTF is happening in the workplace diaries for all the corporate baddies. This is a conversation about layoffs, yes, but it is also about self-worth, power, and what it means to burn down the system without burning yourself out. Takeaway: Partnership. Allyship. Accountability. Openness. Outrage feels good in the moment, but it does not build a new world. Honest conversation, accountability, and self-worth do. If we want a different future of work, Black women, White women and everyone in between will have to stop performing and start partnering for real. Episode Chapters: 00:00:00 - Meet Jillian, unhinged bosses and the "I bet you think strippers like you" story 00:05:30 - Niceness is not consent and why men misread women at work 00:10:00 - Corporate nihilism, toxic startups and emotional labor for your boss 00:15:30 - Layoffs, Disney, DEI and 300,000 Black women pushed out of work 00:23:00 - White guilt vs white empathy and what privilege actually means 00:30:00 - Performative DEI, being hired for optics and the sting of being replaced 00:39:00 - The reputation of white women at work and why so many choose a white male boss 00:47:30 - Bias, accountability and how both Black and white women can unlearn harmful patterns 00:55:00 - Career PTSD, self-sabotage and rebuilding a life that actually fits 01:03:00 - Side business vs fixing a broken company and redefining success on your own terms 01:10:00 - Game of This or That Jillian is an Employer Brand Consultant, Leader, and Culture Strategist, and real talker on TikTok. Follow her @JillianDoesBranding. Follow @ThatWorkBTW on Instagram.

    1h 9m

  6. 11/16/2025

    Honestly, I Am Over It

    Seriously, I am over it. The constant self-reflection is so LA of me and yeah, nah, over it. Takeaway: Doing the inner work is a non-negotiable but doing it for the plot, embracing mess (not wrecklessness) and living is just as important. 00:00:00 - Introduction and Personal Reflections 00:03:00 - The Pressure of Self-Improvement 00:06:00 - Embracing Authenticity 00:09:00 - Living in the Moment 00:12:00 - Balancing Fun and Inner Work 00:15:00 - Breaking Free from Societal Expectations 00:18:00 - Conclusion and Key Takeaways Follow @ThatWorkbtw on Instagram for news + updates.

    16 min

  7. 11/10/2025

    They Say All The Cool Girls Get Fired

    In this episode, I continue to explore my journey of self-discovery in alignment vs ambition. I share a candid reflection on one of my most traumatic career experiences, getting fired after six weeks, during the 2015 BLM movement, which challenged my values and led to a profound personal transformation. TAKEAWAY: The pedestal we create is usually never worth it. CHAPTERS: 00:00:01 Introduction and Self-Discovery 00:00:26 The Dream Job Distraction (My CondeNast Story) 00:00:54 Chasing Proximity to Power 00:29:02 Ambition vs. Addiction 00:16:25 Family Love and Self-Love 00:29:01 Conclusion and Key Takeaways Follow ‪@byTunisiaWilson on all social platforms and join the @ThatWorkBTW community for updates.

    26 min

  8. 11/04/2025

    Ambition Without Alignment Can Become An Addiction

    In this episode, I share my journey of self-discovery and empowerment, emphasizing the importance of aligning ambition with purpose. I reflect on what should have been a career-changing experience at Netflix, which had so much promise but ultimately left more to be imagined, and a substantial bill from my therapist that I am still paying to this day. Takeaway: Waiting for the world to pick you up and choose you is never a good idea. Chapters: 00:00:01 Introduction and Self-Discovery 00:00:26 The Dream Job Distraction 00:00:54 Chasing Proximity to Power 00:29:02 Ambition vs. Addiction 00:16:25 Family Love and Self-Love 00:29:01 Conclusion and Key Takeaways Follow ‪@ThatWorkBTW community for updates.

    33 min
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Exploring creativity, culture, and the bts of the work + that work. For the work wifeys, by Tunisia Wilson. Follow @ThatWorkBTW podcast on Instagram for updates. for inquiries: hello@thisisbtw.com Produced by BTW Studios | thisisbtw.com

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  • Creator
    btw
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    35
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    That Work Podcast