The Aural Apothecary

The Three Apothecaries

The Aural Apothecary Podcast. An authentic yet lighthearted take on the world of medicines and healthcare in the UK from Jamie, Gimmo and Steve the Chemist.

  1. JAN 30

    8.5 There’s an App for That: Medicines in the Digital NHS with Rahul Singal

    In an era where “there’s an app for that” is increasingly the answer, we turn our attention to what digital transformation really means for medicines. Not just convenience and clicks, but safety, understanding, and how people actually experience care. In this episode, hosted by Jamie Hayes, STC, and Gimmo, we’re joined by Rahul Singal, Senior Responsible Officer for the Digital Medicines Programme at NHS England. Rahul offers a clear-eyed view of the digitisation of the medicines pathway — from prescribing and dispensing to how patients interact with their medicines through tools like the NHS App. Together, we explore the promise and the pitfalls of digital pharmacy: innovations in community pharmacy, the realities of electronic health records, and the tensions between national ambition and local delivery. This is a conversation about progress — but also about complexity, equity, and what it really takes to make digital healthcare work in practice. Rahul Singal is the Senior Responsible Officer for the Digital Medicines Programme within the Transformation Directorate at NHS England. He leads work to digitise the medicines pathway across the NHS, including e-prescribing, automation, transfer of medicines information, and prescription ordering via the NHS App. He is also Senior Advisor for digital pharmacy and medicines, and Professional Lead for pharmacy in clinical informatics. He has held senior leadership roles across the NHS, including Chief Pharmacist in a London NHS Trust, and was the first Clinical Fellow to the Chief Pharmaceutical Officer, where he led national work on seven-day pharmacy services. Like Gimmo, he holds a Master’s in Leadership (Quality Improvement) from Ashridge Executive Education and is a Generation Q Fellow. For our micro-discussion we discuss the paper “Qualitative evaluation of the implementation and national roll-out of the NHS App in England” which examines how the NHS App was implemented during the pandemic and beyond; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39838384/. As with all of our guests, Rahul shares with us his Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced his life. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie HayesWe’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qYJamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again.Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having.Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think of the show. https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;  https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from.

    1h 3m
  2. JAN 16

    Live from Oxford with Professor Ben Goldacre - Bad Pharma, Good Data, Better Care

    The Apothecaries are back on the road! In this special live episode, The Aural Apothecary takes the stage at the Bennett Institute for Applied Data Science, hosted at Jesus College, Oxford University, as part of the Institute’s 10-year anniversary conference. Our guest is Professor Ben Goldacre — a hero of ours, and the bestselling author of Bad Pharma, whose work has shaped how we think about evidence, transparency, and accountability. Recorded in front of a live audience, we quiz Ben on the actions that followed Bad Pharma: a 13-year appraisal, if you like, of what has changed, what has not, and where good intentions still fall short. Along the way, we explore data in Medicine, storytelling, regulation, and why embedding analysts inside healthcare teams matters if data is to drive learning rather than assurance. A live conversation about evidence, honesty, and the hard work of turning data into better care. As with all of our guests, Ben shares with us his Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced his life.  The Bennett Institute,home of OPENPrescribing and OPENSafely : https://www.bennett.ox.ac.uk/ Bad Pharma: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/oct/17/bad-pharma-ben-goldacre-review Better, Broader, Safer - The Goldacre Report https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/better-broader-safer-using-health-data-for-research-and-analysis From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie Hayes We’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qY Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again. Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having. Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think of the show. https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/ You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;   https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from.

    56 min
  3. The Aural Apothecary Almanac 2025

    12/26/2025

    The Aural Apothecary Almanac 2025

    In this festive, end-of-year episode, the Apothecaries are joined by the fourth and fifth Apothecaries, Clare Howard and Jonathan Underhill. We reflect on momentous moments in medicines alongside some personal reflections, including the impact of AI on medicine, the drive towards reducing hospital stays for older frail patients, and the successes of the HPV vaccination program. Some familiar faces pop up in our end-of-year quiz and as usual we share some great stories, medicines banter, and joyful festive moments. We finish off sharing our genuine gratitude to you,  our listeners for, continuing to tune in and support us. 2025 was another landmark year for The Aural Apothecary. We continued to explore the stories, systems and science behind medicines — from data and AI to safety, culture and unintended consequences. Alongside the podcast, we developed our Aural Apothecary Medicines Map, a conceptual piece of art linking medicines together in a way never seen before (we think!). In May, we took the show live to the Clinical Pharmacy Congress in London, and in December we went to Oxford University and recorded a special episode at the Bennett Institute, interviewing Professor Ben Goldacre on prescribing data, evidence and transparency. We even made it into the Christmas edition of the BMJ with an article about how the BNF has grown in size and weight over decades !! https://www.bmj.com/content/391/bmj.r2574 And not forgetting, Jamie's triumphant TED Talk. As ever, the year blended curiosity, thoughtful conversation and a belief that how medicines are used matters just as much as what they do. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie Hayes We’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qY Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again.Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having. Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think of the show. https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/ You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;  https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you listen

    51 min
  4. 11/28/2025

    8.4 Professor Alistair Boxall - From Prescription to Pollution: The Unseen Impact of Medicines in Our Waterways

    What really happens to medicines after we swallow them? Where do they end up… and what exactly are we flushing away? Which medicines might we be taking —unknowingly—the next time we pour a glass of tap water? In this episode, we explore the hidden life of pharmaceuticals after they leave our bodies. Professor Alistair Boxall, environmental chemist at the University of York, joins us to unpack the real impact of medicines on our rivers and waterways. We delve into the risks these drugs pose to ecosystems, the surprising range of pharmaceuticals now detected in UK rivers, and the solutions that could help protect both wildlife and human health. It’s a fascinating journey—from the pharmacy to the sewer pipe, and into the natural world. A story of unintended consequences… and why they matter. Relevant resources we discuss: -Pharmaceutical Pollution of the English National Parks https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/etc.5973 -Pharmaceutical wastewater as Emerging Contaminants (EC): Treatment technologies, impact on environment and human health  https://doi.org/10.1016/j.nexus.2022.100076 -Streams of medicines: what’s hiding in the UK’s waterways?  The Guardian: Science Weekly  podcast https://www.theguardian.com/science/audio/2025/apr/08/streams-of-medicines-whats-hiding-in-the-uks-waterways-podcast As with all of our guests, Alistair shares with us his Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced his life. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie Hayes. We’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qY Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again.Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having. Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think of the show. https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/ You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;  https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from.

    1h 3m
  5. 10/31/2025

    8.3 Brian MacKenna - In God we Trust : All Others Must Bring Data

    Data - it’s mentioned in the new NHS 10 year Health Plan 178 times! As healthcare continues to evolve, the ability to turn data into insight — and insight into better prescribing — has never been more important. In this episode, we’re joined by Brian McKenna, Director of Research and NHS Service Analytics at the Bennett Institute, University of Oxford, to discuss how we can get better at data. We explore the world of “Open Prescribing” , a web resource,  and its impact on medicine use and safety.We dive into the history of prescribing data (who remembers the National Prescribing Centre?!) and discuss the delicate balance between using data for improvement and using it for performance management. We continue this topic in our Micro Discussion when we look at a paper testing if unsolicited feedback, based on real data and supported by behavioural change science, can improve Antibiotic prescribing? https://doi.org/10.1093/fampra/cmaa128 We also mention this paper “Bringing NHS Data into the 21st Century” https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0141076820930666 by Dr Ben Goldacre et al. And talking of Ben Goldacre, join us at the 2025 Bennett Institute Medicines Symposium where he will be our special guest at our next live show! https://www.bennett.ox.ac.uk/events/2025-bennett-institute-medicines-symposium/ As with all of our guests, Brian shares with us his Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced his life. BONUS CONTENT - Serendipity and Sulfasalazine!Here the story of how Brian, after hearing Wasim Baqir’s Desert Island Drug in Episode 4.6,  went on to develop a tool in https://openprescribing.net/  to identify and prevent sound-a-like errors occurring in the future! https://www.theauralapothecary.com/p/bonus-material/ Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think of the show. https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/ You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;  https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie HayesWe’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qYJamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again.Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having.

    1h 2m
  6. 09/26/2025

    8.2 Dr Laurence Gray - The Dose Maketh the Poison

    In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Laurence Gray, Consultant Clinical Pharmacologist and Director of the National Poisons Information Service (NPIS) in Cardiff. We explore the vital topic of toxicity — from the dangers of medicines such as propranolol, to the principles of managing patients exposed to toxic substances, and the crucial role of healthcare professional education in reducing harm. Drawing on insights from the research, pharmacology and his extensive clinical experience, Dr Gray offers a compelling perspective on how toxicity impacts patients and healthcare systems alike.  ⚠️ Listener Notice: This episode includes discussion of how some medicines can be involved in deliberate overdoses. We recognise this may be a sensitive topic, so please listen with care and at your own pace. We continue the theme with our micro-discussion, when we look at the paper Poisoning in adolescents in the UK: a review of enquiries to the National Poisons Information Service: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40121012/ We also heavily reference The problem of propranolol poisoning https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40611599/. How has such a common drug often thought of as relatively safe become such a growing issue? As with all of our guests, Laurence shares with us his Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced his life. Some very personal and thoughtful choices. Please follow us on LinkedIn! Let us know what you think https://www.linkedin.com/company/auralapothecary/ You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg   You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;   https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ and you can find us on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/104953561. To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie Hayes We’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qY Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again. Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having.

    1h 1m
  7. 08/29/2025

    8.1 Dr Jessica Morley. Will Artificial Intelligence save the NHS?

    Dr Jessica Morley is a leading expert in digital health ethics, data governance, and artificial intelligence policy. Currently a Postdoctoral Researcher at Yale University’s Digital Ethics Center, she previously served as Director of Policy at the Bennett Institute for Applied Data Science at the University of Oxford. Jess has also worked at the heart of digital transformation in the NHS, advising government departments on the safe, effective, and ethical implementation of AI technologies. With a background that spans philosophy, health informatics, and public policy, her work focuses on ensuring that AI in healthcare serves the public good—preserving trust, promoting equity, and reinforcing system-level values. She is widely published on ethical frameworks for AI and is a passionate advocate for more accountable and transparent digital health systems. An ideal person to discuss the potential and the pitfalls of AI in the NHS. Can AI really live up to the hype in healthcare? What safeguards are needed — and where do humans still matter most? In this fascinating and enlightening discussion, we explore the promises and pitfalls of artificial intelligence in healthcare with one of the world’s leading thinkers on the topic. We continue the theme with our micro-discussion, when we look at the paper Perspectives of Health Care Professionals on the Use of AI to Support Clinical Decision-Making in the Management of Multiple Long-Term Conditions https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40613609/. This paper aims to explore the perspectives of primary care Healthcare Professionals on managing Long Term Conditions supported by AI.  Links mentioned in the episode:The Briefing Room: How far could artificial intelligence transform medicines? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0021bdl Can a digital NHS BE equitable - The BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/389/bmj.r1317 As with all of our guests, Jess shares with us her Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced her career or life. An apt and personal choice when discussing the dehumanising world of AI. You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;  https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/ and you can find us on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/104953561.  To get in touch follow us on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com. Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from. From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie HayesWe’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicineshttps://lnkd.in/eRwqhRuv Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or taking) medicines in quite the same way again.Please take a few minutes to watch, reflect, and share — this is a conversation worth having.

    52 min
  8. 04/04/2025

    7.8 Dr Margaret McCartney - Conflicts of Interest and the Skinny Jabs

    This episode we are joined by Dr Margaret McCartney a practising General Practitioner and a Senior Clinical Lecturer in General Practice at the University of St Andrews. Margaret is a vocal advocate for Evidence Based Medicine and regular journal / newspaper columnist and contributor to the BBC Radio 4 programme Inside Health. Does accepting money for a view affect a healthcare professional’s ability to make unbiased decisions in the patient’s interest? Should those with a conflict of interest be barred from producing guidelines or providing education? Should it be allowed at all? A controversial issue and an edgy conversation you will not want to miss!  For our micro-discussion we get into the equally controversial subject of Weight-Loss jabs. A useful public health intervention or patient safety crisis in the making? We pick up on a recent episode of the BBC Radio 4 Programme Inside Health (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jsly) that examines the impact on the NHS of allowing  widespread prescribing of  the new weight-loss drugs.  Links mentioned in the episode: Financial Conflicts of Interest and the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2016 Guideline for Prescribing Opioids for Chronic Pain: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2598092#ild160076r5 Listen to Margaret talk about , and change other Doctors’ minds about Conflicts of Interest on the BMJ podcast: https://thebmjpodcast.podbean.com/e/taking-on-the-van-tullekens-how-margaret-mccartney-changed-their-minds-about-cois/ As with all of our guests, Margaret shares with us her Memory Evoking Medicine, a career anthem and book that has influenced her career or life. Her drug will almost certainly have an effect on you…! The Apothecaries are on the road again! Come and see our next live show at the Clinical Pharmacy Congress on the 10th May in London. Book your tickets and find out more here: https://www.pharmacycongress.co.uk/london    Don’t forget to check out Steve’s impressive TV debut where he describes the role of a Clinical Pharmacist to none other than Professor Green on BBC Morning Live. This is a must watch for anyone who wants to understand this role and the impact of polypharmacy. A new career beckons… You can watch it here: https://www.rpharms.com/about-us/news/details/polypharmacy-featured-on-bbcs-morning-live.  You can listen to the Aural Apothecary playlist here; https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3OsWj4w8sxsvuwR9zMXgn5?si=tiHXrQI7QsGtSQwPyz1KBg  You can view the Aural Apothecary Library here;   https://litalist.com/shelf/view-bookcase?publicId=KN6E3O Our website is https://www.theauralapothecary.com/  To get in touch follow us on Bluesky and X @auralapothecary or email us at auralapothecarypod@gmail.com . Don’t forget to rate us and comment wherever you have got this podcast from.

    57 min

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