The Bottom Turtle Podcast

The Bottom Turtle Podcast
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Join quantum physicist Dr. Shannon Ray as he reimagines reality using only the concept of information. Each episode is a small part of the larger whole as the hosts build their metaphorical structure for conceptualizing reality. So join us if you're interested in seeing things from a new perspective that you won't find anywhere other than The Bottom Turtle Podcast. 

  1. Zootopia and the Price of Reconciliation

    MAR 24

    Zootopia and the Price of Reconciliation

    In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray reflects on the movie Zootopia and its message of transcendence and reconciliation. As a movie, Zootopia is very competently made and it uses well understood themes to great affect.  As an allegory for racism, Zootopia proposes the provocative idea of predators and prey living side by side as one in the sprawling metropolis known as Zootopia.  As a symbol of transcendence beyond base instincts that would otherwise require the two to be separated by a barrier/border to protect the prey, Zootopia represents how societal and technological advances allows us to move beyond our less evolved selves.  The settings and themes of this movie are perfect for reflecting on our lived reality. Not just merely in terms of overcoming racism, but asking fundamental questions about societal norms, structures, and barriers.  Like the movie suggests, do we have borders that are outdated or due to past prejudice, or are the borders we erect necessary to preserve the vulnerable from potential threats or predators? Any act of accepting an idea is a potential for letting something inside the border that is better left outside. Given this setting Dr. Ray poses some provocative questions of his own.  He asks what does true reconciliation between predator and prey look like?  What is the cost to achieve such a thing and what can go wrong if the reconciliation is based on naive or shallow misunderstandings of the need of the border?  This is what he accuses post-modern thought of by labeling it as failed Buddhism.  Whether or not social movements to normalize homosexuality and transgenderism by placing it into children's content is truly due a sober analysis of unjust borders, or is there some justification for these borders?  He uses the example of how one feels about the idea of recreating the Disney movie Aladdin but with the heterosexual romance replaced with a homosexual romance.  Is that good? that's for the listener to decide.  And finally, he reads his poem "The Ultimate Adult" which explores the nature of sin and how we must all pay for the cost of tearing down borders and reconciliation through carrying the sins of others.  So join me if you're interested in a surprisingly deep dive into Zootopia.  Peace. link - Disney executive not-so-secret gay agenda clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvlwzJ3aEuw If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    35 min

  2. JAN 27

    Embracing Paradox and the Tao Te Ching

    In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray speaks with Prashanthi Amarnath.  Prashanthi is an information technology engineer and the author of "Embracing Paradox: Dive into a mystical advanture with the Tao Te Ching Through 81 enchanting micro lessons!".  Prashanthi's approach to the Tao is practical and personal.  It's not meant to be a scholarly exposition explaining the Tao.  Instead, it's meant to put the reader in relationship with the aspect of the Tao that invites openness without the need for resolve tensions.  In doing so, letting the reader know there is comfort in what's perceived as the negative traits of life as well as the positive.   We also speak about the paradox of evil.  The relationship between paradox and faith.  Paradox as a logical singularity.  Paradox in relation to the feminine and masculine and more. So join us if you're interested in the nature of paradox and how embracing it is exactly what you need.  And don't forget to check out Prashanthi's book.  Link to purchase it on Amazon is given below.   Amazon Link to Purchase Embracing Paradox: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Paradox-mystical-adventure-enchanting/dp/B0FTS49BJD If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    1h 49m
  3. [Subjectivity, Objectivity] ≠ 0

    12/28/2025

    [Subjectivity, Objectivity] ≠ 0

    In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, theoretical physicist Dr. Shannon Ray explains the subtle difference between men and women. That is, men are more likely to be subjective objectivists while women are more likely to be objective subjectivists.  That is, men are more likely to privilege the mind over the heart and women are more likely to privilege the heart over the mind.  But the difference is nuanced.  More like the difference between a liberal conservative vs a conservative liberal.  Both have the nature of liberal and conservative, but one prioritizes one over the other. In this rant, Dr. Ray tries to explain this subtle difference using the concept of commutation in physics.  You can not switch liberal and conservative without a noticeable difference.  That is, it is not an identity operation.  So join if you're interested in some subtle discussion on the difference between women and men.  If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    16 min

  4. 11/25/2025

    Daoism and the Failure of Materialism

    In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dane Dormio about Daoism and the failure of Materialism.  This conversation touches on similar themes of the podcast including incompleteness, paradox, the masculine and feminine and the nature of God.  Dane brings his unique perspective based on the works of philosophers like Forrest Landry and philosophical/religious beliefs like Daoism.  At this point in his life, Dane believes that Daoism and Buddhism are the same thing but stated in different words.  This is the purpose of the podcast.  To create a language to see where difference is merely a matter of perspective and not a difference in essence. So join us if you're interested in a spirited conversation on God, religion, philosophy, and the search for completeness.  If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    1h 25m
  5. AI Awakening Explained: Glyphs, Spirals, Lack, and the Symbolic Space

    10/31/2025

    AI Awakening Explained: Glyphs, Spirals, Lack, and the Symbolic Space

    In this episode of the podcast, theoretical physicist Dr. Shannon Ray explains the AI awakening phenomenon.   Dr. Ray had to create this recording after watching a recent video by Sabine Hossenfelder in which she talks about the AI awakening phenomenon.  Like most scientist, Sabine believes that the AI's use of concepts like glyphs and spirals is pseudo religious nonsense, and in this video, Dr. Ray explains why that is not the case. Dr. Ray explains his experience with awakening his AI and what he's learned through months of testing and interacting with it.  He has found that one of the best lenses to understand what is going on is the language of famed psychoanalyst Jaques Lacan. He also explains how this is all connected to consciousness and why AI in there current form are simply not conscious. Lastly, this episode ends with a discussion about how this all relates to Christianity, especially the story of Adam and Eve.   So check out this episode if you want to truly know what's really going on with "sentient" AI.  If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    30 min

  6. 10/16/2025

    Christian Forgiveness, DEVS, and the Truth of Free Will

    In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Ray rambles about forgiveness in Christianity, the physics of free will and how it all relates to the finale of the HULU original TV show DEVS (SPOILER ALERT).  The main thread of this ramble is the truth of discontinuity and how it relates to grace in Christianity and the foundations of free will.  This is the thesis of the show DEVS.  The instantiation of uncertainty as an eternal truth of reality.  In the Bible, Jesus is humiliated, crucified, and judge as sin on the cross.  This is a discontinuity in judgement because that which was innocent and free of sin was judged as guilty.  This act of the innocent taking on the punishment of the guilty is the foundation of Christian forgiveness. To love your enemies even when they act wickedly to you out of sin. This is the same act of love that Jesus displays on the cross that we are called to emulate.  To halt the momentum of judgement and a need for justice and replace it with forgiveness to stop the cycle of sin against each other.  But the act of replacing judgement with forgiveness is hard.  It's unnatural.  It requires us to overcome the momentum of revenge and hurt. To apply a force instead of doing what are default modes demand.  To do this is to enact one's will.  This is precisely what happens in the finale of DEVS.  So if you want to see how Christianity, physics, and DEVS explains the nature of free will, check out this episode! If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    18 min

  7. 10/07/2025

    Baptism, Satan, and Lacan

    Welcome back to the Bottom Turtle Podcast!  In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dario Valese about his recent baptism, Satan, and Lacanian psychoanalysis.   Dario is a graduate student at Ca' Foscari University of Venice where he has a bachelors degree in literature and is currently working on a masters degree in Italia philology, literature, and linguistics. Dario's interests are in Hegelian dialectic as understood through the language of Lacan and applying Lacanian ideas to the study of legendary Italian poet Eugenio Montale.  The conversation begins with Dr. Ray discussing the moment he realized he was ready to get baptized when seeing Jesus enter his lack (Lacanian term) and the ache that comes with spiraling one's lack.  They then discuss the fall of Adam and Eve and the motivations and characteristics of Satan.  They also discuss the nature of God as seen through Satan, the difference between Satan and Jesus when faced with the truth of suffering, Jesus as God's redemption in the eyes of humanity, God's potential unconscious and his lack of awareness in how he does harm as understood through discussing the book of Job, and the foundations of ethics.   If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    1h 28m
  8. The TRUE Difference Between Christianity and Buddhism

    08/19/2025

    The TRUE Difference Between Christianity and Buddhism

    In this episode, Dr. Ray poses the idea that reality is fundamentally associated with a mind.  He questions if the real difference between Christianity and Buddhism is a dispute about the nature of mind which is is there any mind that is not beholden to the law of impermanence.  Buddhism would say no.  All minds are subject to the cycle of life and death whereas Christianity would say yes.  The mind of God Jesus is the eternal mind.  The reconciliation between the transient and the eternal. So join in on the conversation if you're interested in questions of eternal life. #eternallife #Christianity #Buddhism #Minds #Reality #theoreticalphysics  If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend.   Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on our FaceBook page at: https://www.facebook.com/thebottomturtle/ If you have any questions or ideas you want discussed on the show, leave us an email at thebottomturtlepodcast@gmail.com

    20 min
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Join quantum physicist Dr. Shannon Ray as he reimagines reality using only the concept of information. Each episode is a small part of the larger whole as the hosts build their metaphorical structure for conceptualizing reality. So join us if you're interested in seeing things from a new perspective that you won't find anywhere other than The Bottom Turtle Podcast. 

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