The Capital Shift

Roger Burnett

Does your stock-market success and high W-2 income no longer feel like security? The RealWise Collective was created to serve when that inevitable moment finally moves you. The Capital Shift podcast is where you get to listen in on some of the most successful operators in their individual real estate classes. Create your own Capital Shift scorecard and share your ratings! Successful, meaningful, legacy real estate investing is not primarily about finding deals. It is about developing the identity, standards, and decision-making ability required to responsibly move capital from abstract markets into real, governed assets. It's one way to regain the security paper wealth no longer provides. This channel explores: How experienced operators think across real estate asset classes Pressure-tested assumptions before capital is deployed The tradeoffs behind income replacement and tax efficiency How disciplined decisions are made under real-time and constantly changing constraints Our founders are actively building alongside the community, documenting decisions in real time, and sharing first-person experience about how real estate investing actually works beyond theory or marketing.

Episodes

  1. The Self Storage Income Machine

    May 28

    The Self Storage Income Machine

    Self storage has historically gotten a bad rep for being on the low end of real estate holdings, and while there are still more mom and pop highway storage facilities than ever, professional real estate investors recognize how partnering with operators in ground up self storage development present a bounty of opportunity for interested real estate investors. In this discussion, we cover the finer details and important questions to consider when rating this asset class against others onsite with my good friend Arthur Hood.What's happening, Arthur? Not a lot. Good morning. I appreciate you going to the extreme trouble that you've gone to to create this opportunity for you and I to speak to one another. That was easy.It was easy.I already have the office, soyou know, we got the space. We've got the opportunity. And we definitely havethe topic today. But Arthur, before weget into the topic, I want to frame theconversation for you around this avatarthat we've created named Stuart. Stuartis a character that we dreamt up torepresent the investors that are mostlikely watching this program today. Andmost of them listening have built somewealth in the stock market, but they'vegot capital gains. They definitely havetax exposure. and they're starting toask a very basic, simple, but incrediblyimportant question. Where does my moneygo next? So, today we're going toexplore an asset class that you are justan absolute expert at, and it's quietlyoutperformed like almost every otherreal estate sector for decades. It'sself- storage. So, Arthur, man, likeyou've structured more money in thesekinds of transactions than I can evenkeep track of. Do you have you keep arunning total ofI I started to look at it one day. Ithink just over between lifetime oftransactions probably just over abillion dollars.There you go. There you have it. So wewe'll just clarify that was a B billionover a billion dollars.Not a million.So that's industries but yes.So let me let me just ask you like so wesaid right like this this group ofpeople they're sitting on a stack ofRSUs right they've got the opportunityreally to create some leverage from theincome that they've created that'slargely sitting dormant sowe've in the capital shift what we talkabout a lot is this idea of needing tochange the way you think so that you canchange the way that you invest. So fromyour perspective when people arestarting to explore real estate as aninvestment vehicle like what's the firstbig mental shift that they need to make?Uh the the the first big mental shiftanyone needs to make especiallyswitching to a real estate investment isthat it's not a true liquid investment.There is a somewhat of a cost to get in,cost to get out as far as selling transor selling a property, buying aproperty, but long-term you're going toget depreciation, the ability to useleverage, which you really can't use inthe stock market unless we get intoleverage and a bunch of high riskinvolved in that, right? So you can do those items is thebiggest shift is if you've got a milliondollars in stocks, if you want a milliondollars in cash, you can have a milliondollars in cash the next day wired toyour bank account by day two. You can'treally do that with real estate.However, you can still get liquidity,but you have to borrow against your realestate. But then that's a that's atax-free transaction.And that, ladies and gentlemen, is whatmany of you are after. So, if thatcatches your attention, you're going towant to pay close attention to the restof what we're going to talk about today.So, a lot of times, uh, Arthur Stewartas a character, he's got a mentalconstruct that he needs to break downbefore he or she can really make thischange that you're describing. So, whatdo you think is the one big belief thatinvestors are stuck with that keeps themrooted in the stock market and reallynot considering what we're talkingabout? I think the one of the thingsthat keeps people rooted in the stockmarket is just the ease. It's click of abutton. They don't have to think or doanything. Real estate seems complicatedfrom the outside if you've never done itbefore. However, for me, I'm a lot morecomfortable with real estate. It's ahard asset. I can touch it. I can feelit. Um, regardless of what happens tothe US dollar, it will be paid for insome form or some currency. So, if thedollar was to ever just crash and burn,real estate will trade in some form of acurrency, gold, it doesn't matter, butit'll it'll maintain its value.Amen. And if you haven't givenconsideration to that thought, there's afoundational aspect for you to reallyspend some time thinking about uhputting into your favorite AI engine toreally spend some time in self-discoveryaround what this process might look foryou, but look like for you, but there'sdefinitely something to be had when itcomes to this. All right. So, myth isbusted, but let's talk about the actualasset class of self- storage itselfbecauseI've I've watched some of your othercontent, you have some reallyinteresting perspectives on self storageas an asset class. So, when the listenerwhen the watcher first hears selfstorage, for me, I can remember when wefirst were considering this asset classwhen you were talking about it and wekind of wrote it off. It's like whywould that be an interesting or valuableasset class? So for your perspectivelike why does that reaction cause peopleto miss that opportunity?I think a lot of it's because whenpeople think of self storage they thinkof the old rollup doormakeshift building on the side of thehighway in a small town, you know, 20miles from where they live. They don'treally see the new generation 5 climatecontrolled facilities that look like a amedical warehouse. They're beautiful.They're done very well. Concrete floors,stainless steel in the walls,everything's climate controlled. Andthey also don't realize, you know, ifyou live in an older home, um, youprobably have a fair amount of closetspace and some attic space, but if youlive in a newer home or an apartment,the builders were never reallyincentivized to provide a lot of spacethey weren't going to get a premium for.So, there really isn't that much storagein a lot of new in new places. and andpeople on, you know, in their 30s and40s and younger and older all havehobbies, whether it's hiking, kaying,skiing, working out, whatever, bikeriding. So, everybody has things thatthey don't have room to store at homeanymore, especially if they live in anapartment or a smaller starter home.They've got to have somewhere to storetheir stuff.Absolutely. And what we've noticed ishome ownership from firsttime homebuyers, it's taking them longer andlonger and longer to actually be able tobuy their first home. So, they've gotsome more disposable income in manyinstances because they haven'tnecessarily found themselves pressuredinto saving for a down payment justpurely out of belief that they're notgoing to be able to be a homeowner.Secondarily, we're starting to see a lotof build directly to rent product that'shitting the marketplace, which is justgoing to be a continuation of whatyou're talking about as far as thebuilders not really being incentivizedto create storage space for the peoplewho are moving into that produc...

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  2. The Hidden Gem of Commercial Real Estate: Triple Net Leases

    May 28

    The Hidden Gem of Commercial Real Estate: Triple Net Leases

    You know recurring revenue. You've sold it, pitched it, and fought for it every quarter. But what if you could own it?   Triple Net Leases — known in the industry as NNN properties — are the commercial real estate equivalent of a contract that auto-renews, where the tenant handles the overhead and you collect the margin. No midnight maintenance calls. No chasing down repairs. Just predictable, long-term cash flow backed by national tenants with serious balance sheets.In this episode of The Capital Shift, NNN specialist Tom Rauen breaks down an asset class that most high earners have never considered — not because it's too complicated, but because nobody ever explained it in plain language.  If you've been stacking W-2 income and wondering how to make it work harder without adding another job to your plate, this conversation is for you. In this episode: What a Triple Net Lease actually is — in plain EnglishWhy the tenant pays taxes, insurance, and maintenance (and why they're okay with that)How to evaluate a deal like an investor, not a landlordThe tenant creditworthiness question that separates good deals from great onesWhat high-income earners get wrong when they first enter this space🔔 Subscribe and hit the bell — new episodes drop regularly on The Capital Shift. Show Notes:which is the overarching premise of thecapital shift program, Tom Rowan, whichis this notion of as you are moresuccessful over the course of yourcareer, you have more resources than youmay have had when you first started. Andso consequently as your resources growand improve your thinking has to changefrom being a capital accumulator tobeing a capital deployer. As you aregoing through that metamorphosis, youactually are going through a bit of anidentity change in the process. So hencethe name the capital shift program. Sowelcome Tom. Happy to have you.>> Yes, glad to be here. So you want totell all the stewards out there a littlebit about Tom and your background andhow we found ourselves on this happyprogram today?>> Yeah, for sure. So I found it 1800t-shirts 20 years ago right out ofcollege. And so that's been my primaryjob as a a small business owner, as anentrepreneur, uh growing that businessnow to 40 employees and you know prettypretty full staff. And during thatprocess, as we were continuing to buildthe business, we were running into a lotof problems entrepreneurs have is um wewere making great money, but the tax manwould come knocking out the door. So, Iknew, you know, a lot of very wealthypeople use real estate as a vehicle tocreate passive income. And the otherpart was like as a business owner,entrepreneur, like I wasn't sure whatretirement looked like, whether that wasan age or money amount or something. AndI wanted to have that diversification onhand to you know kind of have a backstop I I guess you could say but thenalso to you know be earning some passiveincome um you know besides that andbuilding some wealth in the background.So we started investing in commercialreal estate primarily triple net leasefocused and so that is big names uh soour tenants are like Starbucks andArby's and Applebee's and nationalfranchises with 10 to 25 year leases andthe reason we focus on that asset classis because as like a full-time businessowner you know no different than someoneelse that has a full-time job um Ididn't have the time uh to dedicate todealing with tenants and toilets and allthis other stuff. And I'm not like ahandy dude. So, I can't I'm I can fixmaybe a few things, but I'm not really.So, I didn't want to like be fixingstuff and having to like, you know, dealwith like I don't even like to fix stuffaround our own house, let alone somebodyelse messing it up, right? So that's howwe found this asset class and it'sabsolutely phenomenal asset classbecause I truly believe it's the onlypassive asset class that's out there.The rest of them are actually a lot morework. Um this is the only true one thatyou can set it and forget it and youknow there's there's not all these otherthings going on. So that's that's why welove this asset class. It worked outreally well because we could build ourlifestyle around it, whether that's withwork or with family or traveling andeverything else. And as we look towardsthe future of, you know, retirement andthings like that, this asset class stilloffers all that freedom and flexibility.>> Well, and unlike some of the otheroperators and the other classes thatwe've interviewed as a part of theprogram, there's weights and balances.you know, we're we're teaching the thatare consuming this product how to learnthe four different sort of measures thatsomeone who's making a real estateinvestment is generally seeking. And youknow, the fun part, Tom, like in manyways, you just described most of thepeople who are going to be watching theprogram because they don't have time foranother job, just like you didn't havetime for another job. They're alreadydoing a lot of work for the thing thatmakes them the significant amount ofmoney that their jobs afford them. Andthe idea of taking on a complete otherset of tasks seems like the worstpossible idea in the world of everythingto most of these people because they'reputting their heart and souls into whatthey're doing, you know, in solvingproblems for their clients. So the ideaof then having to take on this addedresponsibility is just like okay soyou've clearly most likely gotten thesepeople's attention around like yeah thatsounds exactly right. So break it down alittle bit more about why you believe itis truly passive like and and when wesay triple net like there may be peoplewho doesn't even know what the heckwe're talking about right so let'sunpack it a bit for folks who maybe area little uninitiated.>> Yeah this this got me super excited whenyou sent me this. So tax efficiency,equity leverage, cash flow creation,capital velocity.>> Yes.>> Now there's some other asset class whereyou might get one or two of those,>> right?>> I'll tell you what, I don't know thescoring system. Uh looks like a one,two, or three.>> Yeah,>> we're scoring like fives on all those,maybe even higher. Like off the charts.Uh>> all right. talk to the people like whatwhat what makes this so unique that thescores would be so>> here's here's the unique part and Idon't like I I kind of like to keep thishush hush because um but I'm going tolet you guys in on a little secret. Thisis truly the best asset class. And thereason it's I call it a secret isbecause most people don't realize youcan actually own these properties. Youwill never see a for sale sign in frontof Starbucks or in front of McDonald's.Right? you're driving down the street,think of when you go to get coffee inthe morning or any of the hightra areasin your city, you never see them forsale. So, that's why they're actuallythey're easy to get but hard to findbecause people don't know some of theinside tricks on getting theseoffmarket. They're not listed with, youknow, traditional realtors and stufflike that. And typically these are ownedby big private equity or big hedge fundsand stuff like that. But they're alsoowned by investors just like you and me.So what these properties look like whenI say passive and completely hands...

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Does your stock-market success and high W-2 income no longer feel like security? The RealWise Collective was created to serve when that inevitable moment finally moves you. The Capital Shift podcast is where you get to listen in on some of the most successful operators in their individual real estate classes. Create your own Capital Shift scorecard and share your ratings! Successful, meaningful, legacy real estate investing is not primarily about finding deals. It is about developing the identity, standards, and decision-making ability required to responsibly move capital from abstract markets into real, governed assets. It's one way to regain the security paper wealth no longer provides. This channel explores: How experienced operators think across real estate asset classes Pressure-tested assumptions before capital is deployed The tradeoffs behind income replacement and tax efficiency How disciplined decisions are made under real-time and constantly changing constraints Our founders are actively building alongside the community, documenting decisions in real time, and sharing first-person experience about how real estate investing actually works beyond theory or marketing.