The Contact Center Gurus

Jessica Voss

The Podcast for Contact Center and Customer Experience Leaders! Learn Best Practices, New Technology, Tips & Tricks, and more. Listen in!

  1. Escape the AI Graveyard: Why Most Bots Fail & How to Build AI That Actually Resolves

    Jun 18

    Escape the AI Graveyard: Why Most Bots Fail & How to Build AI That Actually Resolves

    Every contact center has an AI graveyard. Failed chatbots. Pilots that never scaled. The root cause is almost never the technology — it's a lack of AI readiness, unclear use cases, and AI that was built to respond rather than resolve. In Episode 5 of the Contact Center Gurus Podcast, host Darren Prine is joined by Mike Schulman, VP of Channel Sales at Yellow.ai, for a no-hype breakdown of what separates the AI implementations that work from the ones that get shut down. Mike has been in the room for over 1,100 enterprise AI deployments across 85+ countries. He knows exactly where the line is. What they cover: Why 60–70% of companies aren't even at AI readiness level one yet — and what that means before you evaluate any vendor The difference between generative AI and agentic AI, and why most vendors are using the term "agentic" incorrectly Why AI resolution rates went from 5% in 2022 to 60–80% today — and where they're headed in the next two years The "build once, deploy many" approach that lets CX teams own the platform without writing a single line of code Real case studies: Waste Connections (25,000+ monthly calls automated, $3.5–4M saved) and Feral Gas ($14.5M in net new business from end-to-end order automation) How to pick your first use case, show ROI fast, and build from there Key Insight: The companies winning with AI right now didn't go all in on day one. They picked one or two high-volume, repetitive use cases, showed value fast, and expanded from there. That's the playbook. About Yellow.ai: Yellow.ai is an AI-first customer service automation platform with 1,100+ enterprise deployments across 85+ countries. Named clients include Sony, Domino's, Hyundai, Waste Connections, and Randstad. Produced by Darren Prine and the Cloud Tech Gurus team. Subscribe for more insights from industry leaders.

    58 min
  2. Why the Simplest Contact Center in the Room Keeps Winning

    Mar 26

    Why the Simplest Contact Center in the Room Keeps Winning

    Jim Murphy didn't start out building contact centers. He started with a pager business out of a college apartment in the San Fernando Valley. Then the 1994 Northridge earthquake flooded his inventory, FEMA sent a $2,000 check, and a business mentor told him to stop pretending and get a real office. Thirty years later, Jim is the CEO and Co-Founder of BroadVoice — a cloud communications company operating across four continents. Along the way he built DSL Extreme, the largest independent ISP in California, competed with Vonage head to head, and in 2021 acquired GoContact, a Portugal-based CCaaS platform built for enterprise BPOs. That acquisition gave him a front row seat to how the most demanding contact centers in the world actually operate. In this episode, Darren and Jim get into the real cost of platform complexity — what it actually means when agents are toggling between four systems while customers repeat themselves on every call, and why layering AI onto that mess only makes things worse. They walk through a real healthcare case study — a hospital system with surgical centers, urgent care clinics, and an offshore BPO, all running with zero visibility into the patient journey — and what changed when everything moved to one platform. Jim also shares his take on the BPO industry, where he sees a clear split forming between providers that have embraced AI and outcome-based models, and those still billing by the human hour. His view on what the next five years look like for the partner community is one of the most direct takes you'll hear. In this episode: → What platform complexity is really costing you beyond the license fees → Why agents starting from zero on every call is a stack problem, not a people problem → A real healthcare case study and what unified CX looks like in practice → Why data analytics is as important today as the dial tone itself → The BPO split — clear winners and clear losers playing out in real time → What it means to shift from selling hours to selling outcomes → Why the next five years will be the most transformational in contact center history Produced by Darren Prine and the Cloud Tech Gurus team. Subscribe for more insights from industry leaders.

    34 min

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