The Conversation Ben and NiNi
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- TV & Film
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Your QL fandom uncle and auntie are here with giant sunglasses, brown liquor in a flask, a folded $5 bill to slip into your hand when nobody’s looking, lukewarm takes, occasional rides on the Disk Horse, deep dives into artistry and industry, and, most importantly, simping. Lots of simping.
You can find us and reach out on Tumblr: @the-conversation-pod [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod]
Credits:
NiNi (@shortpplfedup [https://www.tumblr.com/shortpplfedup]) is our editor and producer. Ben (@bengiyo [https://www.tumblr.com/bengiyo]) is our creative director and content manager. Ginny (@ginnymoonbeam [https://www.tumblr.com/ginnymoonbeam]) and Shan (@lurkingshan [https://www.tumblr.com/lurkingshan]) are our transcription team. Our theme music is Dedication by Ron Gelinas Chillout Lounge [https://open.spotify.com/artist/03JYfsI9Ke7JFuxHD239m2] (Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com [https://www.free-stock-music.com/])
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The Pillars
GMMTV's OGs came out to play! Ben, NiNi and Shan talk Cooking Crush, Cherry Magic Thailand and how a decade of experience makes a difference with Off/Gun and Tay/New.
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/747834779623391232/the-pillars-the-return-of-offgun-and-taynew?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Intro
00:03:58 Cooking Crush: A surprisingly good romcom
00:08:02 CC: Comedy ain't easy
00:16:59 CC: Dynamite's queer writing and Ten as a rare romantic lead
00:32:08 CC: Final comments and ratings
00:41:14 Cherry Magic Thailand: Beating expectations and simping for Tay Tawan
00:54:13 CMT: Relationship development and the powers
01:02:15 CMT: Other characters
01:13:51 CMT: Ratings
01:19:34 Outro -
DISPATCH! (The Ossan's Love Episode)
Another day, another Japanese sequel. Ben, NiNi and new friend of the pod Twig talk Ossan's Love, being influenced by fandom reactions and Old Man Yaoi.
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/748486190269923328/dispatch-the-ossans-love-episode?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Introduction and Some Context
00:06:25 Ossan's Love History and Summary
00:13:42 The Characters
00:28:23 Love or Dead and In The Sky
00:39:00 Ossan's Love Returns
00:45:33 Final thoughts and Ratings -
Let's Go, Lesbians!
Japan said it's GL time and we said YES. Ben, NiNi and Ginny talk Chaser Game W and She Loves to Cook and She Loves to Eat.
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/749112935687847936/lets-go-lesbians-a-japanese-gl-episode?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Introduction
00:02:41 Chaser Game W: A Flop
00:18:31 She Loves To Cook, and She Loves To Eat
00:23:14 SLTCSLTE: The Women
00:34:18 SLTCSLTE: Yako and The New House
00:39:17 SLTCSLTE: The Food and Nagumo
00:43:02 SLTCSLTE: Depictions of Intimacy
00:50:53 Final thoughts and Ratings -
Roses, Thorns and Buds
Thai BL has been suffering some...performance issues lately, so we're diving into why these shows can't seem to keep it up. Ben and NiNi talk Last Twilight and The Sign with friends of the pod Aiden and Captain Hands.
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/749926703983443968/roses-thorns-and-buds-a-last-twilight-and-the?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Introduction
00:03:54 Last Twilight: Roses and Thorns
00:09:35 Last Twilight: Failed Expectations
00:15:54 Last Twilight: Ableism
00:22:02 Last Twilight: Buds
00:25:22 Last Twilight: Final Thoughts and Ratings
00:29:26 Intermezzo
00:32:43 The Sign: Roses
00:39:32 The Sign: Thorns
00:48:43 The Sign: Buds
00:56:03 The Sign: WTFery
01:04:24 The Sign: Final thoughts and Ratings
01:10:02 Outro -
Mixed Nuts, Part 1: Genre Smoothies
BL is really leaning into genre in a big way, and we're too big nerds to let that go uncommented upon. Ben, NiNi, Ginny and Shan talk some successes and failures in genre blending over the winter season in Playboyy, 7 Days Before Valentine, Dead Friend Forever and Love For Love's Sake.
**TW for Dead Friend Forever: discussions of violence and gore**
**TW for Love For Love's Sake: discussions of suicide and self-harm**
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/750570714469367808/spring-grab-bag-part-1-genre-shows?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Grab Bag Part 1: Genre Shows
00:02:37 Playboyy
00:18:42 7 Days Before Valentine
00:29:35 Dead Friend Forever
00:50:03 Love For Love's Sake
01:13:39 Outro -
Mixed Nuts, Part 2: Thoughts On Yaoi
Japan is churning them out almost faster than we can keep up, so we dedicated a whole grab bag episode to give them the attention they're asking for. Ben, NiNi, Ginny and Shan talk what's working and what's not in Japanese BL as we discuss Sahara-sensei to Toki-kun, One Room Angel, Perfect Propose, Sukiyanen Kedo Do Yaro Ka, I Want To See Only You and I Became the Star of a BL Drama.
Episode transcript available here. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-conversation-pod/751105923599204352/mixed-nuts-part-2-thoughts-on-yaoi?source=share]
00:00:00 Welcome
00:01:15 Grab Bag Part 2: J-BL
00:02:22 Sahara-sensei to Toki-kun
00:11:29 One Room Angel
00:18:54 A Note on MBS Tunku Shower
00:26:01 Perfect Propose
00:49:27 Sukiyanen Kedo Do Yaro Ka
01:04:44 I Want To See Only You
01:10:55 I Became the Star of a BL Drama
01:26:16 Outro