The Courage Effect

Suzanne Weller - Weller Collaboration
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The Courage Effect is a show about what becomes possible when you stop waiting to feel ready. Hosted by Suzanne Weller, it's honest conversation about the fear, risk, and uncertainty behind every meaningful step — and how courage gets lived, not just talked about. Because it isn't reserved for the dramatic moments. It's a reinvention and it's speaking up. It's challenging inequality and it's saying hello to a stranger. The big leaps and the small, daily acts both count — and both are where change happens. These are the stories that move us forward. Let's go.

  1. Jun 24

    Brent Robertson: Unpacking Courage, Blasphemy, and Organizational Narratives

    #85: Suzanne Weller sits down with Brent Robertson, founder of Be Generative and TEDx speaker, for a conversation about courageous leadership, storytelling, and challenging the status quo. Brent shares why “blasphemy” is his word for what happens when someone questions the prevailing truth — and why that friction is often the start of real progress. He and Suzanne explore how leaders can create environments instead of just reacting to them, and why the stories people live inside shape their behavior, culture, and performance. A major theme of the episode is listening: not just to behavior, but to experience and narrative. Brent explains that if leaders want different results, they need to understand the deeper stories running through their organizations. They also discuss “love punches” — the hard truths that can help people grow when they’re shared with care and courage. If you’re interested in leadership, culture, and what it takes to break out of familiar patterns, this episode is for you. Key Themes: Challenging the status quo Storytelling and leadership Listening beyond behavior Culture and organizational change Courageous feedback Connect with Brent Robertson: ➡️ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/brentrobertson ➡️ BeGenerative: http://www.be-generative.com ➡️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/brentrobertson Connect with The Courage Effect: ➡️ Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration ➡️ Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect  ➡️ Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller ➡️ Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  If this conversation resonated, share it and leave a review on your podcast platform. That's how this show grows — one courageous conversation at a time.

    51 min

  2. Jun 10

    Kat Kibben: There's Always Another Way Out

    #84: Discover how intentionality in creating your personal and professional environments can cultivate courage and lived leadership. In this episode, Kat Kibben talks with Suzanne Weller about their transformative journey into van life, insights on leading through uncertainty, and practical ways to build healthier, more resilient teams and communities. Main Topics: ➡️ How choosing discomfort fosters growth and courage ➡️ Challenging inherited rules from toxic workplace cultures ➡️ The power of quitting intentionally as a design tool ➡️ Building organizational resilience and emotional intelligence ➡️ The importance of asking for help and fostering curiosity Resources & Links: ➡️ The Bounce Back Factor book: https://threeearsmedia.com/the-bounce-back-factor-book/ ➡️ Kat Kibben’s Newsletter: https://katrinakibben.com/  ➡️ Three Ears Media: https://threeearsmedia.com/    Connect with Kat: ➡️ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/katrinakibben ➡️ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katrinakibben/    Connect with The Courage Effect: ➡️ Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration ➡️ Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect ➡️ Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller ➡️ Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  If this conversation resonated, share it and leave a review on your podcast platform. That's how this show grows — one courageous conversation at a time.

    48 min

  3. Apr 29 ·  Bonus

    Season 2026 Teaser: It Starts With You

    Think about the last environment you walked into — a meeting, a family dinner, a conversation with someone you manage or someone who manages you. Did you create that environment? Or did it just happen to you? Most of us spend a lot of time thinking about what we're in. What we don't always do — and what takes far more courage — is turn the lens around and ask: What am I creating? That's what the 2026 season of The Courage Effect is built around. The central idea: you don't just work in an environment. You create one. And most of the time, you're doing it unconsciously — replicating patterns from the systems that shaped you, even when those patterns aren't working. This season, we're asking three honest questions: When did you become aware of the system around you? When did you become aware of your impact on it? And what did you do about it? Coming this season: Kat Kibben, author of The Bounce Back Factor, who sold everything and ran their business from a van for three years — only to discover they'd been replicating broken leadership patterns all along. And Emily Parkhurst, who left her role as publisher and president of the Puget Sound Business Journal to found Formidable, a media company built specifically for women leaders that existing systems weren't seeing. Plus solo episodes, a live event in Seattle this summer, and livestreams where you can be part of the conversation in real time. The new season launches in June. Between now and then, sit with this: What environment are you creating — before you've even said a word? 📩 suzanneweller.substack.com | 🌐 wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect What are you walking into rooms and unconsciously building?

    10 min

  4. Apr 8 ·  Bonus

    Listener Favorite with Fumbi Chima: Getting There is One Thing, Staying There is Another

    What does it really take to be a woman at the top — not just to get there, but to stay? In this listener favorite, Suzanne Weller sits down with global technology executive Fumbi Chima for an honest conversation about directness, equity, identity, and the quiet courage it takes to stop shrinking your truth. Dr. Fumbi Chima is an executive coach at The ExCo Group and has held CIO and senior executive roles at Boeing Employees Credit Union, Adidas, Fox Networks Group, Burberry, Walmart, and American Express. She sits on the public company boards of Whitbread and WTW. Born in Nigeria and educated in England, she has spent nearly three decades at the intersection of business and technology — and taught herself to code along the way. Key takeaways: Getting to the top and staying there are two different challenges — and the second one doesn't get nearly enough airtime Curiosity (about other people, other cultures, other ways of thinking) is the foundation of a true global mindset Fumbi's Gen Z daughters pushed her to say what she actually meant. She listened. Moving from ten words to seven isn't about being blunt. It's about being honest enough to stop protecting people from the truth you're carrying. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to the theme of courage and growth (04:26) - Women at the top: Benefits and loneliness (06:11) - Challenges women face to stay in leadership roles (07:37) - The reality of diversity scorecards vs. genuine inclusion (12:28) - Fumbi’s childhood in Nigeria and England (15:05) - Self-teaching technology and building new skills (17:37) - The power of ambition and owning your career goals (20:22) - Confidently celebrating achievements and owning your voice (25:18) - Cultivating a global mindset through curiosity (33:37) - Ongoing learning in AI and data for future leadership (34:37) - Closing thoughts on embracing disruption and innovation Connect with Dr. Fumbi Chima on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fumbi-chima/ Connect with The Courage Effect: Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  Support the Show: If this episode resonated with you: Leave a review on your podcast platform If this conversation resonated, share it. That's how this show grows — one courageous conversation at a time.

    33 min

  5. Mar 4 ·  Bonus

    Listener Favorite with Dr. Jeremy Nobel: Crafting Connections in a Lonely World

    In this episode, Suzanne Weller engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Jeremy Nobel about the complexities of loneliness. They explore the different types of loneliness (psychological, societal, and existential) and emphasize the importance of acknowledging and addressing these feelings. Dr. Nobel shares insights from his book, 'Project Unlonely,' and discusses how the arts can serve as a powerful tool in combating loneliness. The conversation highlights the need for human connection, the courage to express feelings of loneliness, and the role of creativity in fostering relationships and emotional well-being. About Dr. Jeremy Nobel: He’s a primary-care physician, public health practitioner, and award-winning poet with faculty appointments at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and the Harvard Medical School. He is the founder and president of The Foundation for Art & Healing, and author of the book Project Unlonely: Healing Our Crisis of Disconnection. Takeaways: Loneliness is a universal experience that everyone faces. There are different types of loneliness: psychological, societal, and existential. Loneliness is not the same as being alone; it's a subjective feeling. Acknowledging loneliness requires courage and can foster connection. Loneliness can be a signal indicating a need for human connection. The pandemic has made conversations about loneliness more acceptable. Arts and creativity can help combat feelings of loneliness. Recognizing the signs of chronic loneliness is crucial for mental health. Sound Bites: "Loneliness is a universal experience that everyone faces." "Vulnerability is essential for authentic connections." "Arts and creativity can help combat feelings of loneliness." Chapters: 00:00 Understanding Loneliness: A Human Experience 13:04 The Role of Arts in Combating Loneliness  Connect with Dr. Nobel:  Website: https://jeremynobel.com/ The Foundation for Art & Healing: https://www.artandhealing.org/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_-GxBhC1ARIsADGgDjscusqh0TIxqNq2gTDMnNRzKr9zyELmGhveSCPokdnWF0GmsOEomHoaAqFWEALw_wcB Read his book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/647051/project-unlonely-by-jeremy-nobel-md-mph/ Connect with The Courage Effect: Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  Support the Show: If this episode resonated with you: Leave a review on your podcast platform Share this episode with someone who would benefit from Dr. Nobel’s story

    28 min

  6. Feb 11 ·  Bonus

    Listener Favorite with Michael Hudson: The Courage to Be an Outsider

    Michael Hudson moved to rural Vietnam at 22 and stayed through the hard parts. Now CEO of the Hudson Institute of Coaching, he shares what he learned about courage, identity, and the disruptions that force us to grow. Key Themes: Naive Courage vs. Cultivated Courage Naive courage gets you on the plane. Cultivated courage keeps you there at the six-month mark when you want to quit. The real transformation happens when you choose to stay and figure it out. The Flashcard Trap Michael made 200 Vietnamese flashcards but wasn't learning. He was protecting himself from embarrassment. Real integration required letting go of control. Where are you creating the illusion of progress to avoid actual risk? Disruption Forces Honesty We think we know why we're succeeding when times are good. External disruptions reveal what actually matters. COVID forced Michael's organization from in-person to virtual. They didn't want to change — but learned things they're still using. Identity as Obstacle Change requires letting go of parts of yourself that no longer serve you. There's loss in that. Pain in that. We don't sign up for it easily. But becoming something different means releasing who you used to be. Takeaways: Break habituation deliberately. Take different routes. Create small disruptions before life forces big ones. Be honest about what's moving the needle vs. what's just noise Give yourself permission to make it up as you go Stay long enough to know what you're really choosing About Michael: CEO of the Hudson Institute of Coaching, spent 10 years in Southeast Asia and East Africa, coaches startup founders and social entrepreneurs. Connect with Michael:  LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hudson-8527728/ Hudson Institute of Coaching website: https://hudsoninstitute.com/ Connect with The Courage Effect: Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  Support the Show: If this episode resonated with you: Leave a review on your podcast platform Share this episode with someone who would benefit from Michael's story

    35 min

  7. Jan 21 ·  Bonus

    Listener Favorite: Courageous Communication with Julie Pham

    What happens when we avoid the hard conversations? Dr. Julie Pham, Founder/CEO of Curiosity Based and author of "Seven Forms of Respect," shares the messy truth about when she got it wrong—and what changed when she finally chose directness over avoidance. Julie opens up about quitting a job through manufactured martyrdom rather than honesty, workplace gossip that spectacularly backfired, and the uncomfortable question that kept her up at night. When her boss told her to "let it go," she trusted her gut instead—and ended up modeling the behavior her entire team needed. Drawing on her parents' journey fleeing Vietnam by boat, Julie reminds us that courage is relative. And sometimes the bravest thing we can do is slow down, stop judging ourselves and others, and have the direct conversation—even when it takes months to get there. Key Insights: Courage doesn't have to be immediate. Julie took months to process before having a difficult conversation. "Sometimes our expectations of having to respond right away actually gets us to maybe respond in a way that is just more reactive than thoughtful." You can't outsource your courage. When Julie complained about her boss to a peer, that peer spread her words around the organization. "I can't expect other people to fight my battles for me. I can't expect other people to save me." Trust your gut over bad advice. Against her boss's advice to ignore an uncomfortable situation, Julie had direct conversations and apologized. Her boss later told her: "You actually modeled the behavior that we should have here." Building relationships requires risk. "We don't know how they're going to take it. All I can do is stay true to myself and maybe that'll work and we'll have a deeper relationship and for other people it's gonna isolate us even more." Connect with Julie:  LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliepham2/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/juliephamphd Website: https://curiositybased.cominstagram  Connect with The Courage Effect: Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  Support the Show: If this episode resonated with you: Leave a review on your podcast platform Share this episode with someone who would benefit from Suzanne’s story Stay courageous.

    30 min

  8. 12/10/2025

    2025 Season Reflections: Put Your Ass Where Your Heart Wants to Be

    #83: The Courage Effect: 2025 Season Finale Suzanne reflects on this season's powerful conversations and asks: What are you waiting for permission to do? Season Themes: Speaking the Unspeakable From menopause (Jill Angelo) to family secrets (Susan Liu) to standing in gaps others won't (Andrea Anderson) — courage means saying what needs to be said. The Courage to Bear Witness Ashley Gilbertson documented Officer Eugene Goodman at the Capitol on January 6th, reminding us we can't look away from hard truths. Self-Compassion as Strategy Massimo Backus: Being kind to yourself isn't soft — it's strategic. Stop wearing leadership costumes and show up authentically. Permission Over Perfection We're better at giving others permission than ourselves. What are you tolerating that you no longer want to? Standout Quotes: Andrea Anderson: "I've always been comfortable standing in the gap that others don't want to stand in." Pelumi Nubi: "Is this fear mine, was it given to me, or do I need to give it back?" Susan Liu: "Sometimes the stories we're not allowed to tell are exactly the ones that the world needs to hear." Three Questions: What am I waiting for permission to do? Who am I waiting to tell me it's okay? What am I tolerating that I no longer want to? The Call: Stop apologizing. Stand in the gap. Bear witness. Take risks. Give yourself permission to be imperfect, human, and fully you. Let's stop discharging pain through blame and create real change — by speaking up, telling stories, and showing what's in the world. And thank you Stephen Pressfield for the inspiration: Put Your Ass Where Your Heart Wants To Be Connect with The Courage Effect: Host: Suzanne Weller / Weller Collaboration Website: https://wellercollaboration.com/thecourageeffect Social Media: https://linktr.ee/suzanneweller Substack: Sign up for Suzanne’s Reimagine Growth newsletter at https://suzanneweller.substack.com/about  Support the Show: If this episode resonated with you: Leave a review on your podcast platform Share this episode with someone who would benefit from our stories Stay courageous.

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The Courage Effect is a show about what becomes possible when you stop waiting to feel ready. Hosted by Suzanne Weller, it's honest conversation about the fear, risk, and uncertainty behind every meaningful step — and how courage gets lived, not just talked about. Because it isn't reserved for the dramatic moments. It's a reinvention and it's speaking up. It's challenging inequality and it's saying hello to a stranger. The big leaps and the small, daily acts both count — and both are where change happens. These are the stories that move us forward. Let's go.

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  • Creator
    Suzanne Weller - Weller Collaboration
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    100
  • Rating
    Explicit
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