You can learn all about Teri Leigh and her wonderful Substacks right here: Teri Leigh 💜 (00:00:03): And we are back on the Curiosity Chronicles. (00:00:07): I am your host, Taylor Cecilia Brooke. (00:00:09): And with me today, I have the most wonderful woman, Ms. (00:00:13): Terry Lee. (00:00:15): And she is someone I met on Substack and someone who is completely revolutionized the way I think. (00:00:21): Terry, would you like to introduce yourself? (00:00:24): Oh, I just got goosebumps. (00:00:26): Thank you. (00:00:30): My name is Terry Lee. (00:00:31): I am the mindfulness coach on Substack. (00:00:34): And I think I met you, Taylor, pretty early in my own journey on Substack. (00:00:39): Yeah. (00:00:40): Yeah. (00:00:43): Yeah, so I'm going to ask you a question right away. (00:00:46): Like, how have I revolutionized the way you think? (00:00:49): Oh, it's just the way you Barney style stuff. (00:00:54): Like, I don't know if you know what that means when I say that. (00:00:57): I don't. (00:00:58): Okay. (00:00:58): I'm too old. (00:00:59): It just means that you break it down on a really reachable level where everybody (00:01:06): understands what you're saying and can also connect to it because they've (00:01:09): experienced it. (00:01:11): And that's unusual. (00:01:13): And especially when you're talking about, like, the high-level stuff that you're talking about. (00:01:19): It's not just like, you know, all that kitten's cute. (00:01:22): Like, you know, we're going to adopt this dog today. (00:01:25): No, (00:01:25): I mean, (00:01:26): you're talking about chemicals and how our dendrites are changing and, (00:01:31): you know, (00:01:31): literally, (00:01:32): like, (00:01:33): all of that stuff. (00:01:34): But you make it easy for... (00:01:37): anybody to understand. (00:01:38): And I really like that. (00:01:39): So that's what I meant by revolutionize. (00:01:41): Cause there's been things where I've never been able to connect to them before and (00:01:46): then explain it in some way. (00:01:48): And I'm like, Oh, okay. (00:01:50): I totally get it now. (00:01:52): Cool. (00:01:53): You know, (00:01:54): one of my favorite quotes, (00:01:55): I think it's Einstein who says, (00:01:57): you don't really know it yourself unless you can explain it to a kindergartner. (00:02:01): And so that's my goal. (00:02:03): Although I don't go as young as kindergarten, I go more like fourth, fifth grade. (00:02:07): Well, that's okay. (00:02:08): Yeah. (00:02:09): Yeah. (00:02:09): I think that's probably a good level though, for like the general population. (00:02:14): Yeah. (00:02:16): So, so what was your purpose in starting your sub stack for people who are just podcast listeners? (00:02:25): Well, I have been writing since I was seven years old and I've had a newsletter since 1999. (00:02:31): Wow. (00:02:32): So Substack is just the evolution of that newsletter. (00:02:38): It's my latest platform to move it on to. (00:02:40): Like I've gone through all the different platforms. (00:02:42): And when I found Substack, I was like, this is home. (00:02:45): Oh, I love that. (00:02:47): I just feel so homey there. (00:02:49): And I did, I imported Substack. (00:02:52): 1,300 newsletter subscribers who have been following me for anywhere from 25 to 30 years. (00:02:58): That's so cool, though, that you have that many people who are still following you after this long. (00:03:06): That is dream goals, literally. (00:03:11): Yeah. (00:03:12): I think I posted on Substack just the other day. (00:03:14): I had a person reply to my email newsletter in email, and she invited me to Germany. (00:03:21): She's like, I've been following you since you started podcasting in 2008. (00:03:27): I listened to every single one of your, (00:03:29): I used to do yoga podcasts where I would record myself live teaching a live class (00:03:34): and I'd put it on podcast. (00:03:36): And so she said, I listened to every single one. (00:03:38): I burned them all onto CDs. (00:03:40): I have a box of CDs of all of your podcasts. (00:03:44): That's crazy. (00:03:46): In 2018. (00:03:47): So there's like 300 episodes of that, that she has. (00:03:51): And she's like, I feel like I know you because you tell stories and you talk about yourself. (00:03:56): And just like you said, Taylor, she, she talked about how I mix in like, (00:04:00): real practical advice and wisdom with stories of my own life and my own challenges (00:04:06): and make it practical in the human body. (00:04:09): And so she's like, please come visit me in Germany. (00:04:13): So I'm going to go to Germany someday. (00:04:16): That's so f*****g cool. (00:04:17): Like just, I, that's the kind of stuff that I can't wait to have happen because just (00:04:26): It's those kinds of connections, those kinds of impacts that I want to be able to make for other people. (00:04:32): And it's interesting that you brought that up because recently, (00:04:36): within the last month, (00:04:38): I've had quite a few private messages from people who are that person who's alone, (00:04:47): sitting on their couch, (00:04:48): scrolling TikTok. (00:04:48): Yeah. (00:04:50): And, (00:04:51): and they don't know, (00:04:51): they don't have anybody else to talk to about it because most of them, (00:04:54): their spouse follows them on Substack. (00:04:56): So they can't write about it there. (00:04:59): So they come to share with me and that's been so cool that I get to be a safe space (00:05:05): for those people because I would have loved to have someone to talk to just to get (00:05:11): it off my chest, (00:05:13): like carrying around that weight. (00:05:14): Like, you know, the choices that you're making and you know how, how (00:05:19): heavy they are. (00:05:20): Like, (00:05:21): you know what you're doing unless you're like truly, (00:05:24): truly stupid, (00:05:25): but I don't, (00:05:27): you know, (00:05:28): then there's other problems there. (00:05:32): But it, (00:05:34): so, (00:05:35): but yet you keep doing it and you carry that acknowledgement and that weight around (00:05:39): and having a place where you can have someone who you could share that with. (00:05:45): and they won't judge you or comment or really they'll just say, okay, what do you need right now? (00:05:50): Do you need a hug? (00:05:51): Do you need a shoulder? (00:05:52): Do you need a joke? (00:05:53): Do you need a distraction? (00:05:56): and oh my god so true like so many people try to fix it yes i fix it for you and (00:06:02): sometimes all you need is a hug sometimes you just need someone to dump all the (00:06:06): stuff on and yeah and they take that junk and they're like okay thank you i'll (00:06:09): throw it away for you yeah yeah i am so guilty of trying to fix things for for (00:06:15): devin because like my natural instinct is caretaker i'm a caretaker and (00:06:22): so something's not going right for him it's my job to take care of him and so i (00:06:28): want to fix it it's the same with the kids like there's times where i have to let (00:06:32): them fix it on their own and i'm just sitting there yes screaming on the inside but (00:06:40): so you've had this you've had a blog and a newsletter in some fashion for about 30 (00:06:46): years (00:06:48): I'd say close to that. (00:06:49): Yeah, I think the early years were very sporadic. (00:06:53): So it wasn't really consistent until probably 2005, 2008. (00:06:56): That's still so cool, though. (00:06:59): That's like a while ago, because in 2008, I was leaving middle school, going to high school. (00:07:07): So it's like, you know, now I'm 30. (00:07:10): Yeah. (00:07:14): but it seems like so long ago, but it's really not math wise. (00:07:18): Like in the span of a lifetime, it's really not that long ago, but that's super cool. (00:07:24): So how does this all tie into what you do to make a living? (00:07:34): Well, most of my income comes from working one-on-one with clients. (00:07:38): So those clients that have been following me for years, um, (00:07:41): Usually, (00:07:42): I'd say six or seven times a year, (00:07:45): I get an email from one of them saying, (00:07:47): OK, (00:07:48): I'm ready to work with you now. (00:07:51): Could be someone who found me 10 years ago. (00:07:54): It could be somebody who knows somebody who found me 20 years ago. (00:07:59): Like the most recent one was the best friend of a woman who went through yoga (00:08:03): teacher training with me 15 years ago. (00:08:05): Oh, that's cool. (00:08:06): And then what I do is I work, I am a mindfulness coach. (00:08:10): So they work with me one-on-one, mostly through Zoom, but sometimes in some face-to-face sessions. (00:08:17): I work on a very... (00:08:20): energetic, spiritual, and practical physical perspective. (00:08:24): So I'm not one of those psychic woo-woo people, (00:08:27): but a lot of people think I am because I studied with an African shaman for six years. (00:08:32): I saw that. (00:08:33): I remember seeing some things and I just thought that was the coolest thing ever. (00:08:36): Yeah. (00:08:38): So I do, like if people do need some deeper spiritual work, I will do deep shaman ritual. (00:08:46): Most of that is like working with elements. (00:08:48): So (00:08:49): earth, water, fire, nature, mineral type stuff. (00:08:54): I'm also, speaking of the more woo-woo stuff, I do see and read auras and chakras. (00:09:02): That's so cool. (00:09:02): And so that's where I started my work, (00:09:04): probably back early 2000s, (00:09:07): where most of my clients would find me because they wanted a chakra reading. (00:09:10): That's so cool that you've been doing that for this whole time. (00:09:15): Yeah. (00:09:17): A pioneer, like literally a pioneer. (00:09:20): Let me tell you the fun story of like how I got started with that. (00:09:23): Like there's two pieces to it. (00:09:25): When I was 10 years old