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Because Dan's guests hail from across industries and professions. You'll hear marketing, PR and communications pros; coaches (the executive kind, not the sports kind) and trainers; entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs; connectors and social media mavens. Sometimes it gets personal, sometimes it's all business. But there's always something to learn.
Why Culture is at the Center of Business with Desh Urs
In this episode, Dan connects with business builder, data scientist, tech industry leader, and iBridge LLC co-founder and CEO Desh Urs to dive into leadership, data transformation, company culture, and the internet’s influence on understanding and utilizing data. After spending decades in the data science field, Desh saw how his clients struggled with the huge gaps in data quality and analysis, and together with his wife founded iBridge to solve that problem. Now, over 15 years later, Desh talks about the winding road he took to build a successful global business and grow into the leader he is today. He and Dan dig into the importance of building a corporate culture rooted in empathy and awareness, and Desh reveals some unique leadership development tactics he's using to grow his people and his business. In this wide-ranging conversation, Desh offers his insight into the state of data science, company-wide accountability, leadership, family, the meaning of connections, and much more.
In This Episode
(1:11) Introduction to Desh Urs (3:21) Navigating the last few years (5:14) Desh’s beginning and journey through data (11:37) The internet’s influence on business, opinion, and data (19:04) The role of curiosity and a learning mindset (24:41) Where Dan and Desh were on 9/11 (29:06) Beginning iBridge, finding success, and the impact on personal life (43:56) Family culture and the human-to-human connection (49:02) Leading with empathy and leadership development at iBridge (59:27) iBridge’s mission and digital transformation as a whole (1:11:39) The pace of acceleration Notable Quotes
“We all know how to ask questions, but the art of asking the right question is sort of few and far between. And when you think about when you’re trying to collect information, either anonymously or for a purpose… the questions that you ask can lead to information gathering or can lead to assessments…” – Desh (7:48) “That is what I think we miss as we get older – that amazement, that feeling of “My God! Do I really know this?” As opposed to, “I know this, and this is how this is.” And that’s the world of data.” – Desh (17:48) “The word we use – “customer, customer, customer” – is another human being just like you.” – Desh (47:02) “It is hard work to do this, but it’s extremely fun work. And there is such pleasure in helping people understand there is a bigger purpose to all this… I’m the guy that’s spreading the joy, so if you’re not happy, I have failed.” – Desh (1:15:15) Resources & Links
https://nestle.libsyn.com/ http://twitter.com/dsnestle https://www.linkedin.com/in/nestle https://www.facebook.com/TheDanNestleShow Desh Urs
How Email Helps Brands Be More Human with Christina Hagopian
In this episode, Dan connects with creative director, entrepreneur, designer, and founder of Hagopian Ink, Christina Hagopian. With about two decades of experience in advertising and marketing, Christina is a well-versed strategist who built her own agency with collaboration and innovation at the forefront of her mind. As Dan and Christina discuss her journey to building her own company after beginning as a designer in the industry, they consider the future of email strategy, how effective other channels of communication are in the realm of marketing, the significance of building your team, and how you can stay up-to-date on new trends.
In This Episode
(03:00) Christina’s journey to where she is today (7:28) True confidence and collaboration in the industry (11:29) Christina’s beginning as a designer (12:28) The evolution and development of multi-channel marketing (15:35) How consumer behavior is changing the way marketers produce content (18:55) Christina’s approach to staying up-to-date in her field (21:42) “Design is at the center of everything.” (24:23) The Social Life of Brands (29:23) Why email is still the preferred channel of communication (37:36) Engagement in your email lists (40:32) Why Christina doesn’t agree with cold email outreach (42:22) “I really want to have an intro where someone knows you and you feel a connection.” – The role of LinkedIn in this industry (43:28) Christina and Dan’s thoughts on email list buying, building, and generation (48:17) Co-branding and influencer strategy (50:20) “Have some channels supplanted certain functions of email?” (59:35) The future of email marketing (1:02:28) How Gen Z and Gen Alpha may influence email strategy (1:06:50) Where to find Christina Hagopian Notable Quotes
“I realized very quickly that clients aren’t just hiring designers; they’re hiring teams.” – Christina (6:01) “I still believe in multi-channel marketing, and they just are different channels now.” – Christina (12:28) “When you’re at that mastermind level, you can’t only be in a silo. You have to reach out to other experts in your field. I hire strategists that know more than me…” – Christina (19:49) “Design is synonymous with experience.” – Dan (22:22) “We live in our inbox. It’s where we live.” – Christina (29:32) “You’re introducing a known entity to an unknown entity. And that’s why that works and that’s why that whole social side has taken off because that’s really what co-branding is, right? You’re trying to find like-minded brands that are already established…” – Christina (48:32) “Giving the people on your list homage and gratitude and help them in some way. Serve them, so that they grow to be a part of your community… That’s a successful, long-term nurturing approach.” – Dan (49:41) “When you’re trying to create a branded message with images and with rich content, there is no other channel that’s doing it well. There’s no other channel that does it the way that email does.” – Christina (51:24) Resources & Links
The Dan Nestle Show
https://nestle.libsyn.com/ http://twitter.com/dsnestle https://www.linkedin.com/in/nestle https://www.facebook.com/TheDanNestleShow Christina Hagopian
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinahagopian/ https://hagopianink.com/ https://www.instagram.com/hagopianink/?hl=en https://mobile.twitter.com/hagopianink https://www.facebook.com/HagopianInk/ Mentioned
The Social Life of Brands by Matthew Egol, Mary Beth Mceuen, and Emily Falk Make It, Don’t Fake It by Sabrina Horn A Perfect Mess by Erc Abrahamson
Being a Connection Champion is Good for Business with Karena Bell
In this episode, Dan connects with IT project manager-turned-entrepreneur, Chief Connector of the Charleston chapter of The Connective, and CEO of Turtle Bay Payment Solutions, Karena Bell. Dan and Karena discuss how her journey through a male-dominated field led her to understand the significance of shifting your mindset to realize your potential and see potential in others—and how that helped her refine the art of building connections. They dive into the distinction between networking and connecting, how your approach to connections impacts your business and helps you become a better leader, and how true connection can lay the foundation for real success.
In This Episode
(2:23) – Karena begins speaking about her journey to becoming a CEO (4:15) – Even as an employee, she viewed herself as a business owner (5:13) - Discusses how complex situations can become valuable growth opportunities (9:18) – The concept of mindset is introduced (10:31) – The importance of mentors (11:58) – Realizing that she had no limits (19:35) – Do not bring emotion to the office (31:31) – Destinations can be limiting (40:35) -The difference between networking and connecting (47:00) – The importance of showing interest in others (53:00) – Business and relationships Notable Quotes
“Good networks yield good people.” (1:25) - Dan “I want you to develop a mindset that has no limits, and you get used to asking for forgiveness rather than permission.” (15:35) - Karena “If it's average or mediocre, it’s really boring to me.” (16:38) - Karena “There’s a response and a reaction. A reaction is anchored in emotion. A response is anchored in logic.” (20:02) - Karena “They say ‘it’s lonely at the top’... The reason it’s lonely at the top is because you don’t have people that you trust around you.” (26:36) - Karena “We’re all developers.” (28:33) - Karena “It is the journey that gets me excited because what motivates me is, ‘what is your potential?’ Do you know the answer to that question?” (31:34) - Karena “My own potential is only limited by my limiting beliefs.” (32:30) - Dan “We’re all like onions. We all have different layers that we allow people to see. (43:50) - Karena “There is no one that I cannot find something interesting about to ask a simple question.” (45:50) - Karena “The blessings in my life are meant to benefit others.” (55:01) - Karena “I believe collaboration is the new currency.” (1:01:10) - Karena “Change the word ‘failure’ in your vocabulary to ‘feedback’.” (1:05:56) - Karena Resources & Links
The Dan Nestle Show Daniel Nestle | LinkedIn The Dan Nestle Show | Facebook Dan Nestle / Twitter Karena Bell
Karena Bell - LinkedIn Karena Bell-Facebook Karena Bell-Instagram Turtle Bay Payment Solutions Mentioned: Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck
When A Lifelong Connector Becomes a Recruiter with Melissa Latham
In this episode, Dan connects with retail management expert, c-suite mentor, and founder of Global Recruiters of Lowcountry, Melissa Latham. Spending over three decades in retail, Melissa has seen and done everything from being a sales associate to becoming the retail vice president for Fortune 500 company Jockey International. She attributes her career success widely to the people she has hired and the teams she has built along the way. Ultimately her experiences with relationships and building connections inspired her to pivot into an all-new territory–recruitment.
And what a fertile ground it turned out to be. With the Great Resignation and other disruptions caused by the pandemic, Melissa saw an opportune time to tap the global talent pool. She and Dan talk about how the corporate landscape is changing with the rise of remote work, spotting an opportunity and going after it, sticking to your core values, and adapting to an evolving market.
In this episode
4:08 - Melissa's career journey 4:36 - Why recruitment? 11:06 - Collection vs. connection 28:25 - Using LinkedIn effectively 39:00 - Melissa on the evolving talent market 45:36 - Going remote 58:00 - Anticipating growth 1:02:30 - Creating impact by connecting Notable Quotes
"I think the network is a huge collection of people that you have some type of connectivity but its not deep, but you know you can reach out to them." - Melissa (09.12) "Be more interested than interesting" - Melissa (28.53) “Just jump in and make it happen. And all those things that you seem to be worried about? You find a way to overcome them.” - Melissa (7.33) Resources and links
The Dan Nestle Show
The Dan Nestle Show (libsyn.com) Dan Nestle (@dsnestle) / Twitter https://www.linkedin.com/in/nestle The Dan Nestle Show | Facebook Melissa Latham
Global Recruiters of Lowcountry https://www.linkedin.com/in/melatham/
Forging Meaning and Finding Purpose with James Benton
In the episode, Dan connects with US Army veteran, logistics expert, and creator of Meaning Forge, Jim Benton. As the name suggests, Jim is deeply concerned about meaning – and he’s on a mission to help others use their experiences to forge meaning in their own lives. He’s developed an interview framework based on mythological symbols that helps his subjects uncover their purpose and envision their legacy. Dan and Jim talk about how the Forge came about and much more as they serve up a conversation rich in meaning, purpose, and a fair share of symbols. Jim’s perspective is one you won’t want to miss.
In This Episode
(3:10) James talks about his journey (12:36) The turning point in his life (14:35) Key lesson he learned (19:46) What are the six hard leadership lessons? (26:15) "I failed in this relationship." (33:49) How James helped people find their meaning with Forge (48:07) Difference between meaning and purpose (55:10) Lessons James learned from his previous interviews
"Leaders make leaders because it's a developmental process. Leaders have to spot talent in other leaders and in that raw state start to cultivate, create space for those people to lead." - James (24.22) "Life is not about destination ladies and gentlemen, it's about the journey; unfortunately, or fortunately!" - James (30.54) “Having some grace and self forgiveness. So you're gonna make it, gonna make mistakes. Make a decision. See what happens!” - James (24.08) “Let's talk subordinates. You own that relationship. Like you own their failures, you own their successes. And of course when they succeed, you have to defer. Like when you own it, you have to give it to them.” - James (25.41)
Resources & Links
Six Hard Leadership Lessons from an Army Captain (linkedin.com) Looking In - Author Traci Philips Lincoln on Leadership - Book by Donald T. Phillips James Benton
James Benton CSCP, PMP - Control Tower Program Manager - IBM | LinkedIn Meaning Forge (buzzsprout.com) YouTube Channel - Meaning Forge The Dan Nestle Show
The Dan Nestle Show (libsyn.com) Dan Nestle (@dsnestle) / Twitter https://www.linkedin.com/in/nestle The Dan Nestle Show | Facebook Shout Outs to Traci Philips, Lou Everett & Sherri McManus
Traci Philips on LinkedIn Lou Everett on LinkedIn Sheri McManus on LinkedIn
Integrity in the Face of Intimidation with Lisa Bowman
In this episode, Dan connects with award-winning marketer, public speaker and chair of the American Marketing Association’s ethics committee, Lisa Bowman. In 2020, Lisa’s tenure as United Way’s Chief Marketing Officer ended after she endured years of retaliation for reporting a fellow executive for sexual harassment. Her bestselling memoir, “Harasshole: A Cautionary Tale of My Time at ‘America’s Favorite Charity,’” chronicles her experience.
Today, Dan and Lisa talk about the marketing challenges she faced as CMO at United Way, how the company repeatedly chose to shelter the “harasshole” despite complaints from multiple women, the retaliation she experienced for reporting him, and her path forward as an advocate and public speaker. And of course they also talk about marketing, leadership, ethics, purpose, and more.
In This Episode
(04:11) Lisa’s background, and the path that led her to (and from) “America’s favorite charity,” United Way (10:40) What drove Lisa to accept the job offer “that fell out of the sky” (13:51) The scope of Lisa’s role as United Way’s de facto CMO (18:23) The massive marketing challenge of building back brand equity (35:33) The “harasshole” (40:05) “From minute one, he began harassing me.” (45:52) What does harassment really mean? (52:11) Retaliation (58:49) “I don’t need you anymore” – Lisa’s firing (1:08:45) The aftermath (1:13:30) Lisa’s path forward Notable Quotes
“What does this mean? I've just had two men tell me that I'm intimidating. And yet I don't have power over either of these men. One is my boss. One is a candidate I'm interviewing. Like, like what is intimidating about me? I think there was something about me that made them uncomfortable. But then you question and go, ‘Is that my problem? Or is that their problem?’ And I've come to the conclusion – it's their problem. Not mine.” – Lisa (40:00) “I went back to HR this time on behalf of myself. And from that minute, I had a target on my back. A few weeks later in a conversation with my boss, the CEO, the harasser's name came up in a business context. And I said, you know, ‘Are you aware of the fact that I've had to go to HR about him twice in the past couple weeks?’ And his response was, ‘Yeah, I heard about that. You know, you just need to learn to get along with him.’” – Lisa (49:37) “There are thousands of women that deal with this every single day. If it could happen to me as a C-level female, you know, what happens at lower levels? You know, what happens to women that don't know what to do, don't know how to fight back? There were things that I didn't know that I learned in the process. I feel an obligation to pay it forward and just share my experience.” – Lisa (1:14:57)
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