The Defender Podcast

Lifeline Children's Services

The Defender Podcast collection is a ministry of Lifeline Children's Services where we seek to equip the body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children and families. We hope this collection will provide encouragement, inspiration, and ways to connect with others who have a heart for the orphan.

  1. When Family Ties Conflict With a Child's Safety: What the System Gets Wrong

    1D AGO

    When Family Ties Conflict With a Child's Safety: What the System Gets Wrong

    We're glad you are joining our discussion on the hidden complexities of kinship care and discover how faith, community, and wisdom can transform the way we care for children through the foster care system. We're exploring critical aspects family support in complex situations involving kinship care including the pressures on CPS, the need for equipping kinship caregivers to care for kids from hard places. As child welfare systems evolve, so do the tensions between maintaining biological bonds and seeking the best for the child's safety and well-being. Herbie Newell, Chelsea Sobolik, and Rick Morton delve into the realities of kinship care—uncovering the heartbreaking stories of children caught in systemic challenges, while emphasizing the importance of preparation, humility, and the church’s role in restoring hope. You'll discover how courts are rethinking placement priorities, the importance of culturally sensitive parenting, and how community and faith-based solutions can fill critical gaps. We break down practical ways to support kinship families—from resource provision to advocating for policies that prioritize the child’s best interest. You'll gain insight into the moral and biblical foundations that compel us to see every child as made in God's image and to foster a church that advocates and cares across cultural and racial lines. This episode reveals why common sense, prayer, and active compassion are the most powerful tools in transforming child welfare from the inside out. Whether you're a foster parent, church leader, policymaker, or concerned citizen, this conversation challenges you to examine your role in transforming a broken system into a network of love, support, and justice. If you believe every child deserves a safe, loving family—and that the Church has a vital part to play—then this episode is a must-listen. Join us around the table as we explore the intersections of faith, policy, and compassion in fostering resilient, healthy families. Because caring for vulnerable children isn’t just a system—it’s a calling. 00:00 - Welcome & Introduction to Kinship Care02:09 - How Faith Shapes Our View of Family & Child Welfare03:30 - Defining Family: Truth, Flourishing, and Broken Systems05:08 - Why One-Size-Fits-All Policy Fails Vulnerable Children08:29 - The Preparation Gap in Kinship vs. Foster Care09:32 - How the Church Can Resource Kinship Families10:40 - Real Story: When Kinship Care Goes Wrong14:18 - Policy Perspective: Best Interest of the Child16:30 - HHS "A Home for Every Child" Initiative Explained19:29 - Why the Church Reaches Where Government Cannot21:42 - NY Appeals Court Case: Kinship Placement Rights24:46 - Foster Care vs. Kinship: A False Either/Or Choice27:51 - Closing Takeaway: Prayer as the First Response30:21 - 3 Practical Ways to Advocate for Kids in Care32:47 - Final Challenge: Open Your Eyes to Families Around You

    35 min
  2. When Protection Becomes the Problem

    APR 24

    When Protection Becomes the Problem

    Welcome back to The Table! In this second episode, Rick Morton gathers with Emily Richards and Herbie Newell to continue our vital discussions on child welfare. We explore various aspects of the child protection system and the critical role of family support in these complex situations. Join us as we dive deeper into the world of foster care and adoption.  In this episode, the group discusses the complexities of the child welfare system, the role of faith-based organizations, and the importance of community engagement. They explore the challenges faced by vulnerable children and families, the need for hope and transformation, and the church's responsibility to advocate for change. The conversation also touches on the legacy of Ben Sasse and the call to live purposefully in a chaotic world. Takeaways: The child welfare system faces significant challenges that require community engagement. Microdosing hope can make a difference in the lives of vulnerable families. The church has a vital role in advocating for children and families in need. Navigating the tension between children's rights and parental rights is crucial. Engaging with policy can help shape a better future for child welfare. Ben Sasse's legacy serves as a reminder to live purposefully and engage in public life. Every interaction with a vulnerable child is an opportunity for transformation. The church must not retreat in the face of societal challenges. Finding community and support is essential in the work of child welfare. Living with intention and purpose is vital in today's chaotic culture.

    38 min
  3. Can the Church Really Change Child Welfare? These Leaders Say Yes

    APR 20

    Can the Church Really Change Child Welfare? These Leaders Say Yes

    Child Welfare is broken worldwide. Is there hope? We say yes, and it's found right in our communities in the form of the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ In this inaugural episode of The Table, host Rick Morton (SVP of Engagement, Lifeline Children's Services) gathers three of the most respected voices in Christian child welfare for a conversation that's honest, warm, and theologically grounded.Guests: Emily Richards — Ambassador & Advisor for Show Hope (founded by Mary Beth & Steven Curtis Chapman); foster parent, adoptive sibling, and master's-level theologian Chelsea Sobolik — Child welfare policy expert, Capitol Hill veteran, adult adoptee from Romania, and adoptive mom Herbie Newell — President & CEO, Lifeline Children's Services (23 years); author and advocate for a whole-life pro-life ethic In this episode:How the Church is uniquely called to care for vulnerable children and families Why James 1:27 is more than a memory verse — it's a mandate The intersection of adoption theology and public policy What a "whole-life pro-life" ethic looks like in practice Trinitarian theology and what it means for how we engage orphan care Why community and relationship are at the core of this work — and why isolation is the enemy Whether you're a pastor, adoptive parent, foster parent, social worker, policymaker, or anyone who cares about vulnerable children — pull up a chair.🔔 Subscribe for new episodes and email podcast@lifelinechild.org with topics you want us to cover.

    35 min
  4. Adoption & Advocacy with Kirti Pickard

    02/19/2025

    Adoption & Advocacy with Kirti Pickard

    In this episode of The Defender Podcast, we welcome Kirti Pickard—adoptee, advocate, and podcast host—who shares her powerful adoption journey and how it fuels her passion for serving vulnerable children. Adopted from India at the age of four, Kirti has a deep, firsthand understanding of the lifelong impact of adoption. She discusses the challenges adoptees face, how faith shapes her work, and the importance of churches and communities walking alongside adoptive families. Through her podcast, When I Grow Up, and her leadership of Mission 143, she is dedicated to sharing stories of God’s faithfulness and raising support for children in need. 🎧 Tune in to hear:✅ Kirti’s personal adoption story and how it shaped her faith✅ The unseen challenges adoptees often experience✅ How adoptive families can help children navigate identity and belonging✅ Practical ways churches and communities can support adoptees✅ How Mission 143 is making a tangible impact Guest: Kirti PickardKirti Pickard was born in India and adopted at the age of four, giving her a deep understanding of the profound impact of adoption. She is the host of When I Grow Up, a podcast sharing extraordinary stories of everyday people. Kirti also leads Mission 143, a fundraiser that donates 100% of its proceeds to Lifeline Children’s Services, helping to support vulnerable children and families. 🔗 Follow Kirti:Website | Instagram | Facebook Host: Dr. Rick MortonDr. Rick Morton is the Vice President of Engagement at Lifeline Children’s Services. Resources & Next Steps:💙 Support Adoption & AdvocacyAt Lifeline Children’s Services, we equip families with gospel-centered training and resources to care for vulnerable children. If you’re considering adoption or looking for ways to support adoptive families, we are here to help. 🔗 Learn more: LifelineChild.org/Adoption 🛍️ Shop & Support:Mission 143 donates 100% of its proceeds to Lifeline Children’s Services. Every purchase helps support adoption and orphan care.🔗 Shop Mission 143: Mission143Store.com 📖 About Lifeline Children’s Services:Our mission is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for children and communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples. 📲 Follow Lifeline: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter🎙️ Listen & Subscribe to The Defender Podcast:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Transistor📖 Join The Defender Bible Study:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Transistor

    43 min
  5. Faith, Family, and Foster Care with Jamie Finn

    02/07/2025

    Faith, Family, and Foster Care with Jamie Finn

    🎙️In this episode of The Defender Podcast, we welcome Jamie Finn—author, nonprofit leader, and advocate for vulnerable children. As a foster and adoptive mom, she shares her journey, the biggest challenges foster families face, and how the Church can offer meaningful support. Jamie and her husband, Alan, have been foster parents for over 11 years, welcoming more than 30 children into their home while parenting seven children through birth, adoption, and foster care. She discusses how faith sustains her, the heart behind her work, and how she equips and encourages families through writing, speaking, and ministry. 🎧 Tune in to hear:✅ Jamie’s personal fostering journey & challenges✅ The biggest needs of foster families today✅ How churches can truly support foster parents✅ How faith sustains families through the highs and lows of fostering Guest: Jamie Finn Jamie is the author of Foster the Family, founder and president of Foster the Family, host of The Real Mom Podcast, and owner of Goods & Better. She is a sought-after speaker for foster and adoptive parent events and offers encouragement through her popular social media accounts. Jamie and her husband, Alan, live in New Jersey with their seven children. 🔗 Follow Jamie:Website | Instagram | Facebook Host: Dr. Rick Morton Dr. Rick Morton is the Vice President of Engagement at Lifeline Children’s Services. Resources & Next Steps:  💙 Interested in Foster Care? At Lifeline Children’s Services, we equip families with gospel-centered training to make a lasting impact in the foster care system. Whether you're considering fostering or supporting foster families, we have resources, training, and support to guide you. 🔗 Learn more: LifelineChild.org/Foster 📖 About Lifeline Children’s Services:Our mission is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for children and communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples. Follow & Subscribe 📲 Follow Lifeline: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter 🎙️ Listen & Subscribe to The Defender Podcast:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Transistor 📖 Join The Defender Bible Study:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Transistor

    45 min
  6. 5 Years Waiting for China Adoption

    01/29/2025

    5 Years Waiting for China Adoption

    In this episode of The Defender Podcast, Herbie Newell is joined by Karla Thrasher, Lifeline’s Senior Director of International Adoption, to discuss the heartbreaking impact of China’s five-year suspension of international adoptions, which left 400 children—many with special needs—waiting for families. Recent developments, including China’s September 2024 decision to end all international adoptions, have deepened the uncertainty for children and the 300 U.S. families still committed to them. Herbie and Karla explore the emotional toll on families, the long-term effects on children, and Lifeline’s ongoing advocacy at the highest levels, providing hope through prayer, support, and action. GUEST Karla Thrasher is a licensed social worker with a degree from the University of Alabama at Birmingham and a certified TBRI® Practitioner through the TCU Karen Purvis Institute of Child Development. Since joining Lifeline Children’s Services in 2001, she has dedicated her career to serving vulnerable children and families as Senior Director of International Adoption. Her leadership role allows her to fiercely advocate for the children and families she serves through quality assurance and excellent service. Thrasher brings a wealth of experience and expertise to her role, which has been instrumental in developing Lifeline’s partnerships with international agencies, governments, and ministries. Through her work, she has seen God’s hand at work in placing children in loving, Christ-centered homes and providing support for families who adopt from around the globe. Her greatest joy is sharing the gospel through the ministry of adoption. She lives in Birmingham with her husband, and they have three grown children who champion her ministry work at Lifeline. HOST Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms. ADOPTION COUNSELING COURSE At Lifeline Children’s Services, we are reminded daily of the global orphan crisis — a crisis affecting over 140 million vulnerable children worldwide. These children, many of whom are social orphans, need more than just temporary aid; they need the hope, love, and security that only a family can provide. While adoption is a beautiful way to answer this call, less than 0.5% of these children will ever be adopted. That’s why Lifeline is committed to walking alongside families on this faith-filled journey of international adoption, equipping them to step forward in obedience and care for the vulnerable. If you feel God stirring your heart to learn more, visit LifelineChild.org/Adoption to explore how you can get started in making an eternal impact. LIFELINE CHILDREN'S SERVICES The mission of Lifeline Children’s Services is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for vulnerable children and their communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples.  FOLLOW US Facebook, Instagram, Twitter The Defender Podcast: Subscribe on iTunes | Transistor | Spotify The Defender Bible Study: Subscribe on iTunes | Transistor | Spotify

    20 min
  7. Adoption Counseling Redefined: A New Resource from Lifeline

    01/22/2025

    Adoption Counseling Redefined: A New Resource from Lifeline

    In this episode of The Defender Podcast, Christy Mack Segars, Vice President of Domestic Services at Lifeline Children’s Services, introduces the new Design Adoption Counseling Certificate, a free online resource created in partnership with Stand For Life. This course equips counselors, church leaders, and pregnancy center staff to compassionately guide women facing unplanned pregnancies, presenting adoption as a life-affirming option without coercion. Christy discusses the importance of accurate adoption education, addressing misconceptions, and supporting informed decision-making while highlighting the growing role of adoption advocacy within the pro-life movement. GUEST Christie Mac Segars, LICSW serves as the Vice President of Domestic Services at Lifeline Children’s Services. She holds a Bachelor’s degree from Samford University and a Master’s in Social Work from The University of Alabama. Since joining Lifeline in March 2013, Christie Mac has been dedicated to delivering the gospel to families in need and advancing the ministry of reconciliation and redemption through Lifeline’s diverse domestic programs. Segars led the creation of the Designed Adoption Counseling Certificate Program in partnership with Stand for Life and is a frequent national speaker on adoption, family preservation, and the church’s role in pro-life advocacy. Segars resides in Alabama with her husband, Croft, and their daughters. HOST Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms. ADOPTION COUNSELING COURSE Do you wonder if you’re having the right conversation about adoption with women in unexpected pregnancies? Research shows that women want information on all their options before they make an  informed choice for their baby. Through the Stand For Life and Lifeline Children’s Services Adoption Counseling Certification, you can become equipped on what to say—and what not to say—to a  woman deciding between parenting, adoption, and abortion. Learn more and register at LifelineChild.org/AdoptionPartner. LIFELINE CHILDREN'S SERVICES The mission of Lifeline Children’s Services is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for vulnerable children and their communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples.  FOLLOW US Facebook, Instagram, Twitter The Defender Podcast: Subscribe on iTunes | Transistor | Spotify The Defender Bible Study: Subscribe on iTunes | Transistor | Spotify

    24 min
4.8
out of 5
110 Ratings

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The Defender Podcast collection is a ministry of Lifeline Children's Services where we seek to equip the body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children and families. We hope this collection will provide encouragement, inspiration, and ways to connect with others who have a heart for the orphan.

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