The Digital Accessibility Podcast

Joe James

In The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Accessibility Leaders are interviewed by Joe James about the importance of digital accessibility in business and society. Joe is a Digital Accessibility Recruiter at PCR Digital with an inquisitive mind and a passion for the space. Tune in for key insights, personal accounts, and takeaways about the importance of digital accessibility, told by experts. Contact: joe.james@pcrdigital.com PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

  1. Jane Abbott - Founder of WellDone Consulting

    FEB 24

    Jane Abbott - Founder of WellDone Consulting

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Jane Abbott (Episode 26) In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe welcomes back Jane Abbott, Managing Director of PCR Digital and Founder of Welldone Consulting, a new consultancy dedicated to Mobile App Accessibility. Jane returns to the podcast to discuss why mobile accessibility now demands its own specialist focus, and how years spent recruiting accessibility talent, advising organisations, and working closely with designers and engineers led her to launch Welldone Consulting. With deep insight into both the commercial realities of product teams and the practical challenges of accessibility delivery, Jane offers a grounded, strategic view of where mobile accessibility is today — and where it needs to go next. We discuss: From recruitment to consultancy: How Jane’s long-standing work in web and digital accessibility highlighted a growing gap in mobile expertise, and why a consultancy model is the right next step.Why mobile accessibility is different: The key differences between web and native mobile accessibility, including platform-specific considerations across iOS and Android.What makes Welldone Consulting different: A focused, specialist approach to mobile accessibility, faster turnaround times, clearer commercial alignment, and hands-on expertise rather than generic audit-only services.Barriers faced by teams: The most common challenges product managers, designers, and engineers face when trying to build accessible mobile apps — from skills gaps to organisational mindset.The future of mobile accessibility: Jane’s vision for how mobile accessibility should mature, and what needs to change for inclusive mobile experiences to become the norm rather than the exception. Jane also shares why mobile accessibility shouldn’t be treated as an afterthought or a checkbox, but as a core part of building high-quality, inclusive digital products for a global audience. Follow Jane Abbott: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeabbott/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    46 min
  2. Matt Roberts - When Accessibility Gets Personal

    JAN 27

    Matt Roberts - When Accessibility Gets Personal

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Matt Roberts In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe is joined by Matt Roberts, a designer, design leader, and accessibility advocate whose lived experience has profoundly shaped his approach to inclusive design. As a colourblind designer, Matt brings a personal and practical perspective to accessibility, challenging the idea that inclusion is a constraint on creativity. Throughout his career, spanning hands-on design roles and senior leadership positions, he has consistently embedded accessibility into design thinking, team culture, and decision-making. We discuss: A personal journey into accessibility: Matt’s path into design, how discovering accessibility changed his perspective, and how lived experience has influenced his professional values.Designing with colourblindness: The real-world challenges of colour-reliant design systems, what often gets overlooked, and how designing beyond colour benefits everyone.Accessibility by design, not retrofit: Why accessibility works best when it’s embedded from the very start of the design process, and how early decisions shape inclusive outcomes.Leadership and influence: How moving into leadership roles creates opportunities to scale accessibility across teams, and why mindset matters as much as tooling.Pushback and misconceptions: Common myths around accessibility, creativity, time, and budget, and how Matt reframes these conversations with stakeholders.Practical advice for designers: Small, achievable steps designers can take today to make their work more inclusive, even without specialist tools or large budgets. Matt also reflects on why accessibility should be seen as a core design skill, not a niche specialism, and how empathy, awareness, and better design choices can lead to more inclusive digital experiences for everyone. Follow Matt Roberts: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrobertsdesign/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoeYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    55 min
  3. Tanya Van Workum & Jan Jaap De Groot - ABRA

    JAN 13

    Tanya Van Workum & Jan Jaap De Groot - ABRA

    In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe is joined by Tanya Van Workum and Jan Jaap De Groot of ABRA, a mobile accessibility consultancy based in the Netherlands. With deep experience across iOS and Android accessibility, Tanya and Jan Jaap share how their backgrounds in design, development, and lived experience have shaped ABRA’s mission to make mobile apps genuinely usable for everyone. Together, we explore what good mobile accessibility really looks like in practice, why it’s still so often overlooked, and how teams can move beyond compliance toward meaningful inclusion. We discuss: Building ABRA: How Tanya and Jan Jaap came together to form a mobile-first accessibility consultancy, and why they chose to specialise exclusively in iOS and Android.Why mobile accessibility is different: The unique challenges of touch interfaces, gestures, screen readers, and platform-specific behaviours that are often misunderstood by teams.From audits to empowerment: Why accessibility audits alone aren’t enough, and how education, collaboration, and developer confidence are key to long-term impact.Designers, developers, and responsibility: Where accessibility ownership should sit, and how cross-functional teams can work better together.The human side of accessibility: How working closely with disabled users changes perspectives, priorities, and product decisions.Common myths and mistakes: Including a few surprising misconceptions about mobile accessibility that Tanya and Jan Jaap see time and time again. We also touch on how organisations can embed accessibility earlier in the product lifecycle, what “good enough” really means in mobile accessibility, and why curiosity and humility matter just as much as technical knowledge. Follow ABRA: Website: https://www.abra.ai Connect with the guests: Tanya Van Workum (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanya-van-workum/ Jan Jaap De Groot (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-jaap/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    1h 7m
  4. David Sloan - Chief Accessibility Officer at TPGi

    11/04/2025

    David Sloan - Chief Accessibility Officer at TPGi

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – David Sloan In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe is joined by David Sloan, Chief Accessibility Officer at TPGi/Vispero, and one of the most respected voices in inclusive design and digital accessibility research. With decades of experience across academia, consultancy, and industry, David shares his perspective on the evolution of accessibility; from its early roots in user research to its growing importance within business strategy and product design. We discuss: A lifetime in accessibility: David’s journey from academia at the University of Dundee to joining TPGi in the U.S., and what continues to inspire his work in digital inclusion.Research and real-world impact: How evidence-based approaches and user research can drive better accessibility outcomes, and why empathy alone simply isn’t enough.Accessibility maturity: The practical stages organisations go through on their accessibility journey, and how leadership and accountability shape lasting progress.Inclusive design culture: The role of education, mentoring, and community in building accessibility capability across teams and industries.The future of accessibility: How emerging technologies like AI and automation could support, or hinder, accessibility, and where the human touch remains vital. David also reflects on the ongoing need for cross-industry collaboration and openness, highlighting how knowledge-sharing within the accessibility community can create a lasting culture of inclusion. Follow David Sloan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sloandr/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    53 min
  5. Chris Holloway - Head of Accessibility Recite:Me

    09/30/2025

    Chris Holloway - Head of Accessibility Recite:Me

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Chris Holloway In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe is joined by Chris Holloway, newly appointed Head of Accessibility at Recite:Me, a technology leader renowned for its digital inclusion tools. Chris brings deep experience from his years at PwC and across the broader digital accessibility sector. He shares insights on building high-performing accessibility teams, demystifying reputation issues around accessibility overlays/toolbars, and how community and intent drive sector progress. We discuss: A journey through consulting and tech: Chris’s move from PwC to Recite:Me and what motivated him towards a career in Accessibility.Team building and community: How Chris hires and nurtures new accessibility talent, and the essential skills he seeks out.Overlay tooling and sector reputation: Why overlays spark controversy, lessons learned from past industry missteps, and how Recite:Me looks to drive meaningful change.Client engagement and sector transformation: How leading companies can genuinely embed accessibility instead of mere box-ticking.Practical tips for accessibility assessments, guidance on interpreting standards, and how Chris’s public content empowers practitioners and organisations via platforms like LinkedIn.Looking ahead: Chris’s hopes for the future of digital inclusion and the projects and changes that excite him for the year to come. Follow Chris Holloway: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-holloway-accessibility/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    1h 20m
  6. Amy Low - CEO of AbilityNet

    08/26/2025

    Amy Low - CEO of AbilityNet

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Amy Low In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe James is joined by Amy Low, CEO of AbilityNet, a UK charity that has been transforming lives through technology for over 25 years. Amy shares her unexpected journey into accessibility, moving from a career in commercial property and global operational leadership into the charity sector, where she now leads an organisation dedicated to making the digital world more inclusive. We discuss: A non-traditional path into accessibility: How Amy’s career in sales, operations, and transformation shaped her approach to leadership at AbilityNet.Empowering individuals and organisations: The role AbilityNet plays in supporting both disabled people and businesses to remove digital barriers.Embedding inclusion beyond products: Why accessibility is as much about people and culture as it is about technology.Opportunities in inclusive hiring and training: Where Amy sees the most potential for lasting change in the workplace.The impact of accessibility work: Practical ways to create measurable, positive outcomes for communities and organisations. This conversation offers a unique perspective from a leader who bridges commercial insight with social impact, showing how accessibility can be embedded at every level of an organisation. Follow Amy Low: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-low-abilitynet-accessibility-digital-inclusion/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    48 min
  7. Ben Ogilvie - Head of Accessibility at ArcTouch

    07/29/2025

    Ben Ogilvie - Head of Accessibility at ArcTouch

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Ben Ogilvie In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe James is joined by Ben Ogilvie, Head of Accessibility at ArcTouch. With a background in software engineering and a career spanning both in-house and agency roles, Ben shares his thoughtful, systems-driven approach to scaling accessibility in complex digital environments. Now leading accessibility at ArcTouch, a global design and development agency, Ben supports teams and clients in embedding inclusive design practices across product lifecycles. We discuss: Transitioning from engineering to accessibility: How Ben’s development background helped him spot systemic accessibility issues early on and shaped his pragmatic approach.What makes accessibility sustainable: From patterns and tooling to strategy and documentation, Ben shares the foundational elements that make accessibility scalable.The role of agencies in accessibility maturity: How ArcTouch collaborates with clients to raise internal capability and shift accessibility left.Balancing perfection with progress: The importance of enabling teams, prioritising pragmatism, and avoiding "all-or-nothing" thinking in accessibility.Advice for aspiring accessibility leaders: How to gain traction, work across functions, and stay grounded in the work that matters. Whether you’re part of an in-house team or a digital agency, this episode offers clear thinking and grounded strategies for scaling accessibility with purpose and clarity. Follow Ben Ogilvie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benogilvie/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    43 min
  8. Henny Swan - Director at Tetralogical

    06/24/2025

    Henny Swan - Director at Tetralogical

    The Digital Accessibility Podcast – Henny Swan In this episode of The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Joe James is joined by Henny Swan, internationally recognised accessibility expert and Co-Founder of TetraLogical. Henny brings decades of experience from organisations like the BBC, Opera Software, and W3C, and shares powerful insights on how inclusive design principles and accessible product thinking can transform digital services. We discuss: The evolution of accessibility – from early days at the BBC to shaping global standards through W3C, Henny reflects on progress made and what still needs to change.Inclusive Design Principles – co-author of this foundational guidance, Henny explains how they came to be and how teams can use them today.Mobile accessibility and emerging tech – Henny shares her take on designing for mobile-first environments and what emerging technologies mean for accessibility.Accessibility in product and policy – how embedding accessibility into the fabric of digital strategy, procurement, and leadership ensures sustainable change.Advice for accessibility leaders – practical steps for building influence, scaling efforts, and creating cross-functional impact in organisations. Whether you're scaling accessibility across teams or looking to create more inclusive digital experiences from the ground up, this conversation with Henny offers clarity, context, and inspiration. Follow Henny Swan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hennyswan/ TetraLogical: https://tetralogical.com/ Follow Joe James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeajames/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/A11yJoe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PCRDigital Visit PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

    50 min
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In The Digital Accessibility Podcast, Accessibility Leaders are interviewed by Joe James about the importance of digital accessibility in business and society. Joe is a Digital Accessibility Recruiter at PCR Digital with an inquisitive mind and a passion for the space. Tune in for key insights, personal accounts, and takeaways about the importance of digital accessibility, told by experts. Contact: joe.james@pcrdigital.com PCR Digital: https://www.pcrdigital.com/

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