The Discomfort Practice

Betsy Reed

The Discomfort Practice explores the value of discomfort in shaping who we are, how we are in the world and how discomfort can be a catalyst for positive social evolution. Betsy speaks to leaders, activists, athletes, creatives and others about comfort zones, having a conscious 'discomfort practice,' and the superpowers that lie on the other side of discomfort. Come get uncomfortable with Betsy... You can follow Betsy on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thebetsyreed/ Substack https://www.substack.com/thebetsyreed LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/thebetsyreed/

  1. 5D AGO

    Episode #130: Betsy By Herself on Joy as Anarchy: The Subversive Power of Enjoying Your Life

    In this solo episode, Betsy explores a provocative idea for strange times: Joy might be a form of anarchy. We are living in an era saturated with catastrophe, outrage cycles, environmental grief, economic anxiety, and a constant sense that the world is tilting toward something darker. In that atmosphere, many of us quietly absorb an unspoken rule: if you care about the world, you should feel bad about it all the time. But what if that equation is wrong? What if joy is not denial or privilege or distraction, but a form of resistance? In this episode, Betsy explores how fear-driven systems rely on exhausted, anxious populations, and why choosing joy in the midst of uncertainty can be a deeply rebellious act. This conversation moves beyond superficial "positive thinking" to something much more embodied: joy as life force, sovereignty, and refusal. Because being fully alive - cooking beautiful food, laughing with friends, falling in love, creating, resting, noticing beauty - is not frivolous. It's a refusal to let the world shrink your life. And in a culture that increasingly demands despair as proof of moral seriousness, enjoying your life might be one of the most subversive things you can do. In this episode, Betsy explores: Why modern culture subtly equates misery with moral seriousness The "purity culture" that has crept into activism and social awareness Why systems of control benefit from populations that are fearful and exhausted Joy as embodied life force rather than denial or avoidance The small, everyday acts that quietly reclaim sovereignty over your inner life Why you can feel anxiety about the world and still insist on joy The invitation to become what Betsy calls a "Joy Anarchist" This episode is an invitation to protect your aliveness — even, and especially, in strange times. Because joy is not naïveté. Sometimes it's defiance. The Discomfort Practice explores the uncomfortable edges of being human - the places where growth, truth, and aliveness live. You can find the book Pleasure Activism, by Adrienne Maree Brown here on her website. It's a highly recommended read / approach that might very well change your approach to life. If this episode landed for you, consider sharing it with someone who might need the reminder. Follow Betsy for more reflections on integrity, discomfort, and the quiet courage it takes to question what everyone else takes for granted: Betsy's on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe to The Discomfort Practice wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps) Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed for (Voice) Notes from the Edge - some public, some subscriber-only: substack.com/thebetsyreed Work with Betsy: coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and People Like Us dinners across Europe: www.betsy-reed.com

    12 min
  2. MAR 22

    Episode #129: Adam Kahane on Collaborating with the Enemy: How to Work with People You Don't Like, Trust or Agree With

    What do you do when the people you most need to work with are the ones you most fundamentally disagree with? In this episode of The Discomfort Practice, Betsy sits down with renowned facilitator and systems thinker Adam Kahane, whose work has brought together politicians, activists, CEOs, guerrilla fighters  and community leaders in some of the most polarized environments in the world. From South Africa's transition out of apartheid to complex global conflicts today, Adam has spent decades working in the uncomfortable middle: helping people collaborate across profound differences without pretending those differences don't exist. This conversation explores what it actually takes to move forward together when trust is low, stakes are high, and nobody is getting exactly what they want. In this episode, Betsy and Adam explore: Why collaboration doesn't require agreement The difference between controlling systems and participating in them How conflict can become a generative force instead of a dead end What it means to act when outcomes are uncertain Why real change often emerges from experimentation rather than certainty This is not a conversation about neat solutions. It's about learning how to work inside the mess, with curiosity, humility, and courage. About Adam Kahane Adam Kahane is a director of Reos Partners and a leading facilitator of complex change processes around the world. He has worked with leaders from business, government, and civil society to address some of the toughest systemic challenges - from democratic transitions to climate change and economic inequality. He is the author of several influential books including Everyday Habits for Transforming Systems: The Catalytic Power of Radical Engagement and Collaborating with the Enemy: How to Work with People You Don't Agree with or Like or Trust). Learn more about Adam's work: https://www.reospartners.com https://www.adamkahane.com If this episode landed for you: Follow and message Betsy on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps) Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed for (Voice) Notes from the Edge — some public, some subscriber-only: https://substack.com/thebetsyreed Work with Betsy: coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and People Like Us dinners across Europe: https://www.betsy-reed.com

    39 min
  3. MAR 8

    Episode #128: Betsy By Herself - The World Is Evolving and So, Apparently, Am I

    What happens when you revisit something you once said with conviction… and realise you'd express it differently today? In this solo episode of The Discomfort Practice, Betsy reflects on the strange experience of discovering that one of her older episodes, The World Is Evolving. Are You?, has quietly become the most downloaded episode in the 5 years this podcast has been produced. So she went back and listened. And cringed. This episode is about the discomfort of encountering your past thinking in public, and the quiet, ongoing work of evolving how we speak about the world and our place in it. In this episode, Betsy explores: Revisiting past ideas and noticing what has changed The gap between what we believe and how we express it How privilege can show up subtly in tone and framing The tension between personal agency narratives and structural realities What it means to evolve in public rather than in private This is an episode for anyone who has ever revisited their own work and realised they might say things differently today. If this landed for you: Follow and message Betsy on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps) Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed for (Voice) Notes from the Edge — some public, some subscriber-only: substack.com/thebetsyreed Work with Betsy: coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and People Like Us dinners across Europe: www.betsy-reed.com

    16 min
  4. FEB 22

    Episode #127: Betsy by Herself on Intentional Indifference as a Leadership Practice

    What if indifference isn't always apathy, but is sometimes rooted in discernment? In this solo episode of The Discomfort Practice, Betsy explores intentional indifference as a mature, regulated response to a world that constantly pulls for reaction, access, and emotional labour. Not the numb, checked-out kind, but the kind that comes from knowing where your energy actually belongs. This episode is about withdrawing attention without withdrawing integrity. About choosing not to engage - not because you can't, but because you won't. In this episode, Betsy explores: The difference between avoidance and intentional indifference Why over-responsiveness is often mistaken for care (and leadership) How indifference can be an act of self-respect, not dismissal What it means to stop being "available for extraction" Indifference as a nervous-system skill - not a mindset trick How leaders, creatives, and sensitives burn out by caring too broadly This is an episode for anyone who has been told they're "too much," "too intense," or "too available" and is ready to practice cleaner, quieter power. If this episode landed for you: Follow and message Betsy on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps) Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed for (Voice) Notes from the Edge - some public, some subscriber-only: substack.com/thebetsyreed Work with Betsy: coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and People Like Us dinners across Europe: www.betsy-reed.com

    20 min
  5. FEB 8

    Episode #126: Betsy by Herself on Thich Nat Hanh and Internal War Loops

    In this solo episode of The Discomfort Practice, Betsy speaks directly into the current moment: politically, socially and somatically. Recorded in February 2026, amid rising authoritarianism, surveillance and collective nervous system overload, this episode is a grounded, unsmoothed reflection on what it means to stay human, regulated and ethically awake when the world feels volatile. Anchored by a teaching from Thích Nhất Hạnh, Betsy explores the idea of war loops: the internal patterns of fear, urgency, compliance, reactivity and self-betrayal that quietly rehearse the very dynamics we say we want to resist. This is not a political analysis or a call to action. It's a nervous-system-level inquiry into freedom, leadership and choice, especially for those embedded in corporate or institutional systems who find themselves asking, "But what can I actually do?" In this episode, Betsy explores: What Thích Nhất Hạnh meant by "uprooting war from ourselves" How authoritarian dynamics are rehearsed internally through unregulated nervous systems The difference between response and reaction in moments of pressure Why smoothing, complying or "keeping things nice" is not neutrality How self-regulation becomes a form of ethical and political agency What it means to tolerate discomfort without outsourcing your values How leadership begins with interrupting internal war loops Mid-episode nervous system practice: A short, grounding regulation exercise designed to interrupt fear-based loops and restore choice before analysis or decision-making. Closing inquiry + practice: Betsy guides listeners through a reflective somatic inquiry: Where is the war within me? Exploring how internalised pressure, urgency, contempt or shutdown show up — and how to contain them without judgment. This episode is for listeners who are paying attention, feeling the cost of that attention in their bodies, and wanting to stay clear, calm and human without turning away. A gentle invitation after you listen: No fixing. No forcing. Just noticing: Where you feel pressure to comply Where you override your own signals Where you rehearse domination, contempt or self-erasure Where choice becomes possible again through regulation If this episode landed for you: Follow and message Betsy on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps) Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed for Voice Notes from the Edge - some public, some subscriber-only: substack.com/thebetsyreed Work with Betsy: coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and People Like Us dinners across Europe: www.betsy-reed.com

    19 min
  6. JAN 25

    Episode #125: James Murray on Climate Change, Tipping Points & Practicing Optimism

    In this expansive and clear-eyed conversation, host Betsy Reed is joined by journalist and leading sustainability commentator James Murray, founding Editor-in-Chief of BusinessGreen. Together, they explore what it means to stay awake, human and oriented in the face of accelerating climate risk, AI and systemic uncertainty. Recorded at a moment when climate tipping points are no longer abstract projections but lived realities, their dialogue flows between science, politics, technology and psychology. Betsy and James examine how climate change has become a kind of "theory of everything", shaping economics, geopolitics, migration and everyday life, and what it takes to remain informed without tipping into paralysis, denial or performative optimism. With honesty and nuance, they discuss the real risks in the future, the breakthroughs already underway, and the inner work required to hold the tension of either a potentially catastrophic or a potentially bright future. Because, right now, we don't know which we are heading for. This is a conversation about choosing informed optimism as a practice not a posture, and about learning how to stay in relationship with complexity rather than turning away from it. In this episode: What climate tipping points really are and why they matter now Why climate change has become a "theory of everything" for modern life The emotional and psychological impact of watching seasons, systems and certainties shift within a single lifetime Where real hope lives: clean tech, adoption curves and the pace of innovation Carbon removal, regenerative approaches and what comes next The tension between democratic processes and the urgency of climate action Navigating the information Wild West without losing discernment What it means to practise informed optimism in dark and uncertain times   About James Murray James Murray is the founding editor-in-chief of BusinessGreen, the UK's leading publication covering the green economy, net-zero transition and sustainable business. He launched BusinessGreen in 2007 and has spent nearly two decades reporting on, analysing and challenging the evolution of climate policy, clean technology and corporate responsibility. In 2020, he was named Digital Editor of the Year at the AOP Awards. His work is widely read by policymakers, business leaders and sustainability practitioners navigating the transition to a low-carbon economy. Read James' piece  The Climate Theory of Everything Check out the Business Green website Connect with Betsy Instagram: @thebetsyreed Like, subscribe and leave a 5-star review wherever you listen to podcasts to help more people discover The Discomfort Practice Check out Betsy's new, more personal Substack, (Voice) Notes From the Edge, to get her 'hot takes,' deeper reflections and behind-the-scenes insights

    50 min
  7. JAN 18

    Episode #124: Betsy by Herself - A Love Letter to Anyone Doing Anything Alone

    In this intimate solo episode, Betsy records from the threshold: posting unscripted, later than planned and exactly when it needed to be shared. Recorded in January 2026, after what she calls the personal "meat-grinder" year of 2025, this episode is a love letter to anyone doing something alone: building, healing, choosing integrity, setting boundaries or standing between versions of themselves in a quiet, liminal space. This is not a pep talk. It's a nervous system-level offering for those moments when life goes quiet and the stories about aloneness get loud. In this episode, Betsy explores: Why aloneness is not a failure, but often the felt experience of integrity How liminal spaces show up when we stop abandoning ourselves The difference between being alone and being unsupported Why quiet seasons often arrive right before a new chapter How support doesn't always look like people (and what else counts as support) Letting go of the macro stories we attach to those moments when we feel alone A simple nervous system practice: Betsy shares a gentle, grounding breath practice she calls "the you don't have to do anything breath", designed to bring you back from spirals of story into the present moment. You'll be guided to: Breathe in for four Pause gently Breathe out for six Repeat 4–6 times Along with a simple anchoring phrase: "You don't have to do anything right now. You are allowed to pause." Resources mentioned: Focusmate – quiet online coworking sessions with a stranger for gentle accountability and presence - https://app.focusmate.com/  Audiobooks and podcasts as regulating companions, including books by Brené Brown Routine as support: food, movement, breath, tidying, eye contact with yourself Co-regulation with animals (especially dogs or cats) A soft invitation: Listeners are invited (no pressure) to notice what support already exists and what could support them: One place that calms you One voice that steadies you One practice that brings you back One person (or future version of you) who has survived this before No forcing. No fixing. Just presence. If this episode landed for you: Betsy would love to hear what resonated, what didn't, and what you'd like more of. You can: Follow and message her on Instagram @thebetsyreed Subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and leave a five-star review (it truly helps). Here's Apple and Spotify for easy access. Join her on Substack at The Betsy Reed, where she shares Voice Notes from the Edge - some public, some subscriber-only - for those who want a closer seat to her thinking, practices and lived evolution thebetsyreed.substack.com Work with Betsy For coaching, consulting, speaking, embodied leadership sessions, upcoming community circles, and the People Like Us dinners across Europe: www.betsy-reed.com Check out Embodied Leadership Lab for monthly leadership circles and quarterly planning sessions (starting ahead of Q2 2026): www.embodiedleadershiplab.com (it'll take you to Betsy's website)

    20 min
5
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The Discomfort Practice explores the value of discomfort in shaping who we are, how we are in the world and how discomfort can be a catalyst for positive social evolution. Betsy speaks to leaders, activists, athletes, creatives and others about comfort zones, having a conscious 'discomfort practice,' and the superpowers that lie on the other side of discomfort. Come get uncomfortable with Betsy... You can follow Betsy on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thebetsyreed/ Substack https://www.substack.com/thebetsyreed LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/thebetsyreed/

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