The Diversify Show with Eric Lindsey

Eric Lindsey

Looking for inspiration to elevate your business journey and personal development? Join us on the Diversify Show, where we spotlight high achievers who have successfully built businesses, investment portfolios, real estate businesses, and achieved massive success within various industries ranging from sports to academia. We place a strong concentration on the "how-to" side of things and personal development so that we can share in their success within our own lives as well. Tune in for expert interviews, practical tips, and the motivation you need to thrive as a high achiever.

  1. How a PhD Psychologist Builds a Real Estate Portfolio on the Side of Her W2 — With Ebony Morris Part 1

    6H AGO

    How a PhD Psychologist Builds a Real Estate Portfolio on the Side of Her W2 — With Ebony Morris Part 1

    Ebony Morris is a licensed clinical psychologist with a PhD. She shows up to a demanding W2 job every single day. And she has quietly built a real estate portfolio across Michigan, Arizona, Alabama, and Illinois — while doing it. Ebony Morris | MEK Homes | Buy and Hold Investor | Fix and Flip Investor Why Passive Investors Should Pay Attention to This Operator Ebony did not stumble into real estate. Her father owned his first duplex at 21. She watched him interview tenants as a teenager. She consulted a wealth advisor before buying her first property. She created an LLC, transferred her properties properly, and consulted attorneys along the way. When you back an operator like Ebony you are backing someone who treats real estate like a business — not a hobby. Her Buy and Hold Strategy Ebony started buying in the Detroit metro area because she knew the market. She purchased a duplex for $118,000 with both tenants already in place. One tenant had been there six years. The other three years. She also owns properties in the suburbs of Michigan, Alabama, and Illinois. Her approach — buy low, charge market rents, hold long term, and leverage the portfolio to create additional lines of credit and financial strength. Her Fix and Flip Strategy in Arizona In Arizona Ebony pivots to fix and flip to generate capital quickly. With the right general contractor team she is seeing returns in four to six months. She uses her buy and hold portfolio for long term wealth and her fix and flip deals to generate cash. Two strategies. One portfolio. Working together. For W2 Professionals Building on the Side Ebony still works her W2 job in an environment where cell phones are not even allowed. She calls her realtor during her morning commute. She signs documents at midnight so her loan originator has them by morning. She scrolls listings during her daughter's gymnastics practice. She has built her entire portfolio around the margins of a demanding career — and she has not stopped. Listen to the full episode of the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/Website: https://moonlightcre.com/Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversationLearn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    19 min
  2. How a Tech Co-Owner Invested in Real Estate on the Side for 14 Years Then Went Full Time — With Neal Bawa

    1D AGO

    How a Tech Co-Owner Invested in Real Estate on the Side for 14 Years Then Went Full Time — With Neal Bawa

    Neal Bawa was paying nearly 50% of his tech salary in taxes. So he got into real estate to save them. Then he got addicted to it. Today he manages a $600M+ portfolio with 1,300 accredited investors — using data science and AI where most operators rely on gut instinct. Neal Bawa | Multifamily U --- How He Built a Portfolio While Running a Tech Company Neal ran a tech and healthcare company for 14 years while investing on the side. He discovered depreciation in 2003 building a campus for his business, bought a dozen brand new homes for $90,000 each during the 2008 crash, then went full time into multifamily when his company sold in 2013. --- How He Uses AI to Run His Business Every employee spends 30 to 60 minutes daily on AI and presents new tools weekly in a session called Sparkle. Over 400 custom GPT tools built — rent comps, T12 analysis, neighborhood scoring, and more. AI gets you 50 to 70 percent of the way there. --- Where the Market Cycle Stands Right Now Cap rates peaked and fell slowly throughout 2025 — prices are rising. Neal's framework: 2023 to 2025 were the three years of pain. 2026 is the gap year. 2027 is when it gets exciting — supply will be scarce and rents will rise. The bottom is already in. --- Moonlight Coaching Round — Neal Bawa For New Investors: Real estate is a risk based business. If you want zero risk put your money in a money market. If you want real wealth — get in with eyes wide open. Balancing Business and Life: Work nine focused hours and compress your meetings. Do not sacrifice balance. And always watch interest rates and supply — they can break even the best deal in the best market. Starting With Little Time or No Money: Start with education. AI at $20 a month and YouTube at zero cost are the two best teachers available. Let knowledge guide how much time and money to commit. Why Passive Investing in Real Estate Is So Powerful: Bonus depreciation and opportunity zones. Neal no longer leads with cash flow. At this stage of the cycle the tax advantages are the single greatest reason to invest passively in real estate. --- Connect with Neal Bawa Free webinars: multifamilyu.com/club --- Full episode on the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/ 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/ Website: https://moonlightcre.com/ Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversation Learn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    41 min
  3. From Union Carpenter to Multifamily Syndicator — The Danny Flores Blueprint

    APR 3

    From Union Carpenter to Multifamily Syndicator — The Danny Flores Blueprint

    He started as a union carpenter. Then made a decision most people never make — he went back to school at USC for corporate finance while working full time to pay for it. He graduated, retired from the union, became a banker, and never stopped building. Danny Flores | Prime Capital Investments | Multifamily Syndicator --- From the Jobsite to the Boardroom Danny was a general contractor at 21, moved into heavy construction as a union carpenter, then earned a corporate finance degree from USC while working full time to pay for it. Every career move was intentional. Every skill he built was preparation for the next level. --- His First Deal and 15 Years of 1031 Exchanges Danny saved $65,000 and bought a fourplex in California. A year and a half later he sold it for a $100,000 profit. He rolled that into a 1031 exchange and kept buying bigger buildings for the next 15 years using his own money. He also built a property management company in 2006 and sold it years later. By the time he discovered syndication in 2018 he already had the construction, finance, and operations skills most syndicators spend years trying to develop. --- How He Transitioned From W2 to Full Time Real Estate Danny's rule was simple — you have to work two jobs before you can quit one. Evenings. Weekends. Stolen phone calls during the day. If you are married, cut expenses and learn to live on one income. Cut car payments, eating out, everything. Run lean until the business is big enough to jump to full time. It gets hard before it gets easier. But if you plan it right the jump is possible. --- Why He Started Syndicating in 2018 A friend introduced Danny to syndication after watching him buy deals solo for years. He hired a coach, learned the model, and applied everything he already had — construction skills, banking knowledge, property management experience — to raise capital and start buying bigger deals for investors. --- Listen to the full episode of the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/Website: https://moonlightcre.com/Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversationLearn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    18 min
  4. From Union Carpenter to Multifamily Syndicator — The Danny Flores Blueprint

    APR 1

    From Union Carpenter to Multifamily Syndicator — The Danny Flores Blueprint

    Danny Flores picked up a hammer before he ever picked up a spreadsheet. He started as a union carpenter. Then made a decision most people never make — he went back to school at USC for corporate finance while working full time to pay for it. He graduated, retired from the union, became a banker, and never stopped building. Danny Flores | Prime Capital Investments | Multifamily Syndicator --- From the Jobsite to the Boardroom Danny was a general contractor at 21, moved into heavy construction as a union carpenter, then earned a corporate finance degree from USC while working full time to pay for it. Every career move was intentional. Every skill he built was preparation for the next level. --- His First Deal and 15 Years of 1031 Exchanges Danny saved $65,000 and bought a fourplex in California. A year and a half later he sold it for a $100,000 profit. He rolled that into a 1031 exchange and kept buying bigger buildings for the next 15 years using his own money. He also built a property management company in 2006 and sold it years later. By the time he discovered syndication in 2018 he already had the construction, finance, and operations skills most syndicators spend years trying to develop. --- How He Transitioned From W2 to Full Time Real Estate Danny's rule was simple — you have to work two jobs before you can quit one. Evenings. Weekends. Stolen phone calls during the day. If you are married, cut expenses and learn to live on one income. Cut car payments, eating out, everything. Run lean until the business is big enough to jump to full time. It gets hard before it gets easier. But if you plan it right the jump is possible. --- Why He Started Syndicating in 2018 A friend introduced Danny to syndication after watching him buy deals solo for years. He hired a coach, learned the model, and applied everything he already had — construction skills, banking knowledge, property management experience — to raise capital and start buying bigger deals for investors. --- Listen to the full episode of the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/Website: https://moonlightcre.com/Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversationLearn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    11 min
  5. The Biggest Mistake Investors Make With LLCs

    MAR 25

    The Biggest Mistake Investors Make With LLCs

    Most real estate investors think insurance is enough to protect them. It is not. And if you own property in an LLC right now — there is a new federal law with a $10,000 fine and up to two years in jail that most investors have never heard of. Today's guests are here to change that. --- Garrett Sutton and Ted Sutton | Corporate Direct | Asset Protection Attorneys Garrett is a Rich Dad Poor Dad advisor for Robert Kiyosaki and a leading expert on LLCs and asset protection. Ted is a licensed attorney in Wyoming, Nevada, and Texas specializing in corporate law and compliance. --- Why Insurance Alone Is Not Enough Insurance can be denied or underpaid. The second line of defense is an LLC holding title to your property. A lawsuit can only reach what is inside the LLC — not your personal assets. --- The Wyoming LLC Structure Every Investor Should Know Hold title in a state LLC — then have it owned by a Wyoming LLC. Wyoming's charging order means creditors cannot force a sale. They can only lien distributions. Most contingency attorneys walk away rather than wait. --- The Biggest Mistake Investors Make With LLCs Setting one up is not enough. You must transfer title into the LLC, maintain a separate bank account, have an operating agreement, hold annual meetings, and follow all ongoing formalities. Fifty percent of people who get sued lose LLC protection because they skipped these steps. --- The Corporate Transparency Act — What Every LLC Owner Must Know This is the most significant corporate law passed in 40 years. If you own an LLC you must file beneficial ownership information with the federal government. Miss the deadline and the penalty is $10,000 and up to two years in jail. Corporate Direct files this for clients for $250 and tracks all ongoing update requirements. --- Books by Garrett Sutton Start Your Own Corporation and Loopholes of Real Estate — both part of the Rich Dad Advisor series. --- Connect with Garrett and Ted Sutton Website: ⁠corporatedirect.com⁠Free 15-minute consultation available — reach out at least one month before closing on a property. --- Full episode on the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/⁠👉 YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations⁠ Free e-book: ⁠https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/⁠Website: ⁠https://moonlightcre.com/⁠Schedule a call: ⁠https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversation⁠Learn more: ⁠https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey⁠ Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    20 min
  6. How a PhD Engineer Mastered Real Estate Syndication — With Dr. Jason L. Williams

    MAR 17

    How a PhD Engineer Mastered Real Estate Syndication — With Dr. Jason L. Williams

    Dr. Jason L. Williams | Multifamily Syndicator --- Know Your Numbers Before You Buy Accurate numbers beat a perfect market every time. A deal can work at any rate if your business plan is built around real numbers. The investors who get hurt are the ones making assumptions that do not match reality. --- Protecting Yourself From Property Tax Increases Texas is a non-disclosure state — the county can reassess your taxes based on your loan amount after closing. Jason keeps a property tax advisor in his corner who fights on his behalf and only gets paid on what they save him. Protecting your margins after closing matters just as much as underwriting before you buy. --- Navigating Interest Rates Without Timing the Market Jason adjusts his offer price to match current rates. If a deal does not work at today's number he finds the price that does and negotiates from there. Time in the market always beats timing the market. --- Moonlight Coaching Round — Dr. Jason L. Williams For New Investors:Identify your role in a syndication — underwriting, capital raising, or asset management — and go deep on that area first. Balancing Business and Life:Get your family involved. When they understand the business, work and life become a shared mission instead of a constant conflict. Starting With Little Time or No Money:Find the time. Jason's wife drove two hours to Dallas after work for networking events and drove back the same night. If you want it badly enough you will find a way. Why Passive Investing Is So Powerful:Depreciation, cost segregation, cash flow, and the 1031 exchange give real estate advantages few asset classes can match. With leverage, doubling your capital in five years is realistic. --- Book Recommended for Active and Passive Investors Who Not How — Benjamin Hardy and Dan Sullivan. Know your superpower. Partner with people whose strengths fill your gaps. --- Connect with Dr. Jason L. Williams Website: ironcladunderwriting.comPodcast: Ironclad Underwriting Podcast — YouTube, Spotify, Apple --- Listen to the full episode of the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey. 👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Free e-book: https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/Website: https://moonlightcre.com/Schedule a call: https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversationLearn more: https://linktr.ee/ericlindsey Financial security over job security — always. #RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    28 min
  7. The Lawn Care Hustle That Turned Into an 8-Figure Exit and $30M Startup

    MAR 14

    The Lawn Care Hustle That Turned Into an 8-Figure Exit and $30M Startup

    If you want to keep your job or business while building a real estate portfolio, join these channels. 👉 The Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustle Mastermind And Underwriting Group:https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/ 👉 YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@Realestatesidehustleoperations Build financial security through real estate — without quitting your job or business. How do you go from mowing lawns as a teenager to building and selling an 8-figure landscaping company and then launching a $30M tech platform? In this episode, Eric Lindsey sits down with Brian Clayton, founder and CEO of GreenPal — often called the “Uber for lawn care.” Brian shares how he started mowing yards as a teenager after his dad pushed him to get off the couch, eventually growing that small side hustle into a multimillion-dollar landscaping company that was later acquired. He now runs GreenPal, a nationwide platform connecting hundreds of thousands of homeowners with lawn care professionals while using technology and AI to modernize one of the oldest service industries. During the conversation, Brian breaks down: • How he grew a lawn care business step-by-step like levels in a video game• The three key buckets every entrepreneur must focus on: working in the business, on the business, and on yourself• Why personal development and constant learning are essential for founders• How AI is transforming small businesses and increasing productivity• The importance of sales, action, and solving problems at the root cause• Advice for starting a business with little money Brian also explains how GreenPal works today and how entrepreneurs can think about scaling, systems, and building businesses that can eventually be sold. If you're building a business, running a side hustle, or learning how to scale and automate operations, this episode is packed with practical insights. 📚 Free E-Book: An Introduction Into Apartment Syndicationhttps://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/ 🌐 Websitehttps://moonlightcre.com 📅 Schedule a Call With Eric Lindseyhttps://calendly.com/moonlightequitie... 🔗 Learn More About Eric Lindseyhttps://linktr.ee/ericlindsey #Entrepreneurship #SmallBusiness #Startups #AI #SideHustle #BusinessGrowth #GreenPal #RealEstate #EntrepreneurLife

    50 min
  8. How a PhD Engineer Built a Real Estate Portfolio on the Side of His W2 — and Retired in 15 Years

    MAR 13

    How a PhD Engineer Built a Real Estate Portfolio on the Side of His W2 — and Retired in 15 Years

    Dr. Jason L. Williams | Former R&D Chemical Engineer | Multifamily Syndicator | Mobile Home Community Developer Growing Up Around Real EstateJason watched his father buy properties around town and felt ownership pride before he ever had his name on a deed. That early exposure planted the seed that grew into a full portfolio built on the side of a demanding engineering career. His First Property in Grad SchoolJason bought his first house in graduate school knowing from day one it would become a rental. He still owns it today and has refinanced it multiple times to fund future investments.You do not need to be wealthy to start. You need a strategy and the discipline to execute it. 15 Years of Building While Working Full TimeJason spent over 15 years as an R&D engineer while quietly growing his portfolio on the side. He hired a property manager from day one, used vacation days to close deals, and kept his investing low key at work to avoid moonlighting conflicts.He never let his W2 suffer. And his portfolio never stopped growing. How He Scaled Without a Large SalaryLiving in one of the lowest cost of living cities in the country, Jason's engineering salary was not as large as most people assumed. Instead of waiting to save a full down payment every time, he used the BRRRR strategy — pulling equity out of existing properties to fund the next purchase. He once walked away from the title company with $18,000 in his pocket after a cash out refinance.Recycling capital is how everyday professionals build portfolios without a massive income. The Layoff That Became a LaunchpadIn 2022 Jason's company announced they were relocating to Houston and laying him off. He had already made up his mind to quit. He negotiated a consulting contract that paid him for 20 hours a month whether he worked or not, hit his 15 year mark, and walked away for good.When your portfolio is built right — a layoff is not a crisis. It is a green light. Listen to the full episode of the Moonlight Real Estate Side Hustles and Syndication Show with Eric Lindsey.👉 Mastermind Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/187opx1PyD/👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealestatesidehustleoperationsFree e-book — An Introduction to Apartment Syndication:https://moonlightcre.com/ebook_download/Connect with Eric Lindsey:https://moonlightcre.com/https://calendly.com/moonlightequitiesgroup/scheduled-conversationhttps://linktr.ee/ericlindseyFinancial security over job security — always.#RealEstateSideHustle #MoonlightRealEstate #PassiveIncome #PassiveInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #SideHustle #W2Investor #RealEstateInvesting #FinancialSecurity #WealthBuilding #RealEstatePodcast #ApartmentSyndication #RealEstateInvestor #FinancialFreedom #BuildingWealthOnTheSide

    30 min

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Looking for inspiration to elevate your business journey and personal development? Join us on the Diversify Show, where we spotlight high achievers who have successfully built businesses, investment portfolios, real estate businesses, and achieved massive success within various industries ranging from sports to academia. We place a strong concentration on the "how-to" side of things and personal development so that we can share in their success within our own lives as well. Tune in for expert interviews, practical tips, and the motivation you need to thrive as a high achiever.