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An Apple based podcast covering the last 7 - 10 days in the world of Apple news, reviews, rumours, roundups, guides and anything else that catches our eyes in the world of tech.

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    • 5.0, 10 Ratings

An Apple based podcast covering the last 7 - 10 days in the world of Apple news, reviews, rumours, roundups, guides and anything else that catches our eyes in the world of tech.

    Essential Apple Podcast 187: Lights, camera, action!

    Essential Apple Podcast 187: Lights, camera, action!

    Recorded 23rd July 2020

    Simon, Jim and Nick get together once again to talk about the week in Apple and tech, including public betas, Slack v Microsoft, Nick’s PTZ camera, the new PlexTV (which we were a bit dismissive of but actually may be worth a look - just don’t expect a new Netflix!), and more.

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS

    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom and Take Control of Slack too.
    Steve at Geeks Corner has restarted his podcast which is a 5-15 min show of his thoughts on tech. Also keep an eye on his site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk to watch for regular giveaways.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    NICK RILEY

    @spligosh on Twitter very occasionally.
    Sometimes appears on Bart Busschots' Let's Talk Apple
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube

    JAMES ORMISTON

    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr
    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop
    Has videos on Vimeo

    APPLE

    Apple's 2030 carbon-neutral pledge covers itself and suppliers - BBC
    Apple releases iOS 13.6, iPadOS 13.6, tvOS 13.5, watchOS 6.2.9 – Apple World Today
    Apple Releases iOS 13.6 with Expanded Local News Coverage – Mac Stories
    Sigh. A few cities in the US. Nothing at all for most of the world still.




    Public Betas - seems there is not yet a public beta of Big Sur or the Watch OS... Developer beta 3 of iOS 14 and macOS 11 released though – Apple Insider and beta.apple.com
    The Mac is moving to Apple Silicon - not ARM – iMore
    Apple held early conversations about buying Arm, but ultimately declined – Cult of Mac
    Apple has fixed the USB 2.0 connection bug in Catalina, but not in Big Sur yet – Apple Insider

    TECHNOLOGY

    Slack Accuses Microsoft of Illegally Crushing Competition – New York Times
    BT and TalkTalk internet down: Users unable to connect to broadband across UK – Independent
    Plex launches free Live TV on iPhone, Apple TV, web without a tuner or antenna – [9to5 Mac] (https://9to5mac.com/2020/07/23/plex-launches-free-live-tv-iphone-apple-tv-web/)
    Spotify launches Video Podcasts worldwide starting with select creators – Techcrunch
    Pan Tilt Zoom cameras - PTZ Optics and Nick’s was from Minrray and is the UV510A
    NewTek NDI on YouTube
    Simon’s cheapo IoT PTZ Cammy “Penguin”



    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    Apple Will Start Sending Special Devices to iPhone Hackers – Vice

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    Weyhan’s daughter has added another design Citrus Summer by TangyTees

    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast


    Ronnie Lutes new podcast released – The Liner. Project

    NEMO’S HARDWARE STORE (34:42)

    OFG Long Ranger wireless charger $65 US direct. No international information currently.


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Pric

    • 1 hr 18 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 186: // Developer comments

    Essential Apple Podcast 186: // Developer comments

    Recorded 12th July 2020

    Jim and Simon are joined by Weyhan NG our very own iOS developer to talk WWDC, the Public Betas and various other bits and pieces that come along in the course of the conversation.

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS

    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom and Take Control of Slack too.
    Steve at Geeks Corner) has restarted his podcast which is a 5-15 min show of his thoughts on tech. Also keep an eye on his site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk to watch for regular giveaways.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    WEYHAN NG

    On Twitter as @weyhan
    On GitHub as weyhan
    iOS Developer who goes by handle the Eccentric iOS developer
    Developer / Maintainer of the iOS Compo writing app
    TangyTees

    JAMES ORMISTON

    MacJim in the Slack
    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr
    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop
    Has videos on Vimeo

    APPLE

    Public Betas released - Simon jumps in with the iOS 14 beta... but leaves macOS 11 until he figures out how he’s going to approach it.
    Tom Hank’s Greyhound debuts on Apple TV+
    Apple warns customers not to close its laptops with a camera cover attached — The Verge
    Apple’s Surprising MacBook Air Decision — Forbes

    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    Linked in Class Action Suit

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    Duronic Monitor Arm Stand DM25D1 – Amazon
    Descript Create podcasts, videos, and transcripts - Record. Transcribe. Edit. Mix. As easy as typing.

    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast

    NEMO’S HARDWARE STORE ()

    New goodies on the way.


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire – free for personal use, open source and end to end encryted messenger and VoIP.
    Pinecast – a fabulous podcast hosting service with costs that start from nothing.

    Essential Apple is not affiliated with or paid to promote any of these services... We recommend services that we use ourselves and feel are either unique or outstanding in their field, or in some cases are just the best value for money in our opinion.


    Social Media and Slack
    You can follow us on:
    Twitter / Slack / EssentialApple.com / Spotify / Soundcloud / YouTube / Facebook / Pinecast

    Also a big SHOUT OUT to the members of the Slack room without whom we wouldn't have half the stories we actually do – we thank you all for your contributions and engagement.
    You can always help us out with a few pennies by using our Amazon Affiliate Li

    • 1 hr 31 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 185: SimpleLogin - interview

    Essential Apple Podcast 185: SimpleLogin - interview

    Recorded 7th July 2020

    Nick, Jim and Simon are joined by Son Nguyen Kim of SimpleLogin.io to talk about his service (which allows you to create disposable email aliases for many purposes) and later take a look at some stories from the week.

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS

    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom and Take Control of Slack too.
    Steve at Geeks Corner has restarted his podcast which is a 5-15 min show of his thoughts on tech. Also keep an eye on his site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk to watch for regular giveaways.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    SON NGUYEN KIM

    Creator of Simple Login
    @simple_login on Twitter
    SimpleLogin on Reddit
    SimpleLogin code on Github

    JAMES ORMISTON

    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr
    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop
    Has videos on Vimeo

    NICK RILEY

    @spligosh on Twitter very occasionally.
    Sometimes appears on Bart Busschots' Let's Talk Apple

    APPLE

    PSA: Don’t Install macOS Big Sur on the Same APFS Container as Older Versions – The Mac Observer
    Apple’s A12Z Bionic GPU Running macOS 11 Through Rosetta 2 Beats Both Ryzen 5 4500U, Core i7-1065G7 iGPUs in OpenCL Test – Wccftech
    App Library for iOS 14 allows hiding of 3rd party apps as well as Apple ones and whole pages...

    TECHNOLOGY

    Microsoft OneDrive updates include 100GB file size boost, dark mode, new admin controls – ZDNet
    Most Americans Are At Great Risk of Losing Their Computer Data – Backblaze

    SECURITY & PRIVACY


    Police bust organized crime networks linked to special Android smartphones – Input Mag



    @Robrait says:
    “This is an incredible story that shows the true value of co-operation between international police forces. The French managed to decrypt the system and passed details of several million messages to their colleagues all over the world. In the UK they have, apparently, recovered over £20 million in cash, loads of guns and other weapons, huge quantities of drugs and, most importantly, managed to nail the Mr (and Mrs) Big types who run the crime syndicates who normally manage to keep their noses clean whilst their minions get caught.”



    @Dougee says:
    “The EncroChat phones were a really good device. They are based on a customized OnePlus X device and later transitioned to BQ Aquarius device.It worked by changing the Android Recovery partition with a heavily modified OS.The cool thing was when it first boots it looks like it was wiped. They have been a royal pain the butt for us for quite awhile.”





    TikTok and others revealed to be Clipboard scraping by iOS 14...


    Which Apps Spy on the iOS Clipboard? – Mac Observer


    New Mac ransomware spreading through piracy – Malwarebytes
    This is a good write up from ObjectiveSee about Mac Ransomeware. It also features 'Suspicious Package' a really good app for looking at the contents of packages on Mac, I have been using it for a while now. {Objective See](https://objective-see.com/blog/blog_0x59.html)



    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    Pocket Earth App – Offline Maps & Travel Guides for iPhone & iPad
    I wish I'd found this iPhone accessory years ago – ZDNet
    This one is for Mark!! *‎*Adobe Fill & Sign-Form Filler
    Handoff shared clipboard - shared clipboard usually works for me but you have to be quick as the ability to handoff the clipboard only lasts 30 seconds - for security I guess

    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast


    Some are thinking that Apple's iPh

    • 1 hr 33 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 184: Goodbye OS X - Hello OS 11

    Essential Apple Podcast 184: Goodbye OS X - Hello OS 11

    Recorded 30th June 2020**

    Nick, Jim, Simon and Nick get together once more to talk about more WWDC stuff basically - there was so much news, so much stuff, and so many changes ahead that we are probably going to all be talking about it for months. Still better than having nothing to talk about.

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS

    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom and Take Control of Slack too.
    Steve at Geeks Corner has restarted his podcast which is a 5-15 min show of his thoughts on tech. Also keep an eye on his site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk to watch for regular giveaways.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    MARK CHAPPELL

    @oceanspeed, @essentialapple and @essentialmac on Twitter
    Puts Essential Apple related stuff on YouTube
    Co-host of the The Watching Men Podcast with Karl Madden

    JAMES ORMISTON

    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr
    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop
    Has videos on Vimeo

    NICK RILEY

    @spligosh on Twitter very occasionally.
    Sometimes appears on Bart Busschots' Let's Talk Apple

    APPLE

    Big Sur is officially macOS 11
    First Apple Silicon Macs this year, and a two year transition
    Here’s the full list of macOS Big Sur compatible Macs – 9to5 Mac
    iOS 14 Supported Devices: A Wide Range Of Compatibility – iGeeks Blog
    One of the Best Features of iPadOS 14- It Runs On 6 Year Old Devices – iPad Insight


    BootCamp won’t make it to Apple Silicon and at least for now virtualisation apps won’t be able to run x86 Windows (no news yet regards Microsoft’s ARM version)
    Say Goodbye to Boot Camp and Windows Virtualization on Apple’s New ARM-Based Macs – iDrop News


    Steven Sinofsky full of praise for Apple
    Apple’s Relentless Strategy, Execution, and Point of View – Medium


    And a piece from directly before WWDC
    Apple Macintosh and ARM Processors – Medium


    And a more recent one posted after we recorded
    Apple Drags The PC Into The 21st Century – Seeking Alpha - Another long article from Sinofsky but it’s worth the effort as he lays out a lot of info here


    Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak talk with Gruber – The Talk Show
    Craig Federighi talks to Marques Brownlee – 9to5 Mac
    First Dev Kit Benchmarks appear – 9to5 Mac
    13 years of iPhone: Fans line up to get their hands on the very first iPhones – Cult of Mac

    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    Apple Reveals Touch ID And Face ID Are Coming To Safari – Forbes

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS


    @Dougee says “If anyone is looking for services like 33mail, I have been using both Anonaddy and Simplelogin.
    Both are very good services and don’t seem to get blocked as often on sites like 33mail.”


    AnonAddy
    Simple Login
    GhoSTORIES – a new podcast by Pete Knowlton of Ghostery – Anchor



    NEMO’S HARDWARE STORE (1:17:31)

    Freemove Collapsible Trekking Poles – Amazon $35 US / Not in the UK store.
    AirTurn Stands, Tablet Holders and more – Nemo says “they have a ton of useful and affordable products for every possible situation, and that the MANOS clamp works with all iPads and all iPhones!”
    Probably best to either buy direct or search Amazon as there is a wide selection of clamps, pedals etc.




    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    33mail.com – Never give out your

    • 1 hr 31 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 183: A chat inspired by WWDC

    Essential Apple Podcast 183: A chat inspired by WWDC

    Recorded 23rd June 2020

    Simon, Mark and Jim are joined by the wonderful Kelly Guimont of The Mac Observer to talk about WWDC 2020 and what it all means. In the usual Essential Apple manner we don’t talk about WWDC so much as get into a conversation about a variety of things that WWDC kind of made our addled brains think about...

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS

    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom and Take Control of Slack too.
    Steve at Geeks Corner has restarted his podcast which is a 5-15 min show of his thoughts on tech. Also keep an eye his site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk to watch for regular giveaways.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    KELLY GUIMONT

    @verso on Twitter
    Host of TMO Daily Observations Podcast
    The Aftershow Podcast
    Greetings from the Uncanny Valley (a Westworld podcast)
    Various other shows on the Incomparable Network

    MARK CHAPPELL

    @oceanspeed, @essentialapple and @essentialmac on Twitter
    Puts Essential Apple related stuff on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvXHkqN9IWFlKtQFptemRcQ/)
    Co-host of the The Watching Men Podcast with Karl Madden

    JAMES ORMISTON

    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr
    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop
    Has videos on Vimeo

    NEMO’S HARDWARE STORE (1:18:43)

    Kensington Privacy Screens for MacBook 2016 & Later – ($50-$65 US) – Amazon £48 - £77 UK Full range from 2016-2019 and 13“, 15” and 16“) – Unable to find a sensible link on Amazon US from here in the UK... sorry!
    Diamond Dog DiamondClad Tempered Glass Screen Protector – Amazon $30 US – Doesn’t appear to be available in the Amazon UK store.


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire – free for personal use, open source and end to end encryted messenger and VoIP.
    Pinecast – a fabulous podcast hosting service with costs that start from nothing.

    Essential Apple is not affiliated with or paid to promote any of these services... We recommend services that we use ourselves and feel are either unique or outstanding in their field, or in some cases are just the best value for money in our opinion.


    Social Media and Slack
    You can follow us on:
    Twitter / Slack / EssentialApple.com / Spotify / Soundcloud / YouTube / Facebook / Pinecast

    Also a big SHOUT OUT to the members of the Slack room without whom we wouldn't have half the stories we actually do – we thank you all for your contributions and engagement.
    You can always help us out with a few pennies by using our Amazon Affiliate Link so we get a tiny kickback on anything y

    • 1 hr 26 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 182: And in other news…

    Essential Apple Podcast 182: And in other news…

    Recorded 15th June 2020

    The second part of the previous show where Simon, Nick and Jim carry on and take a look at some of the other news of the week.

    GIVEAWAYS & OFFERS


    Glenn Fleishman’s Working From Home book is completely FREE and can be downloaded here and now he has also released Take Control of Zoom too.



    Steve at Geeks Corner will be having more giveaways in the near future. Keep an eye on the site or follow him on Twitter @GeekCorner_uk



    Serif have expanded their sale to everything in the Affinity store until June 20th



    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Slacker @MacJim has a family friendly Flickr group for listeners to share photos because the Darkroom channel in the Slack has become so popular - if you're interested head over to to the Essential Apple Flickr and request an invitation.


    On this week’s show:
    JAMES ORMISTON


    In charge of the Essential Apple Flickr



    Also on Flickr as thesrpspaintshop



    Has videos on Vimeo



    NICK RILEY


    @spligosh on Twitter very occasionally.



    Sometimes appears on Bart Busschots' Let's Talk Apple



    APPLE


    Apple commits $100 million to racial equity initiative, boosting black partners – Venture Beat



    Apple renames Buchanan Street store as Glasgow calls for racial justice — 9to5 Mac



    Apple Maps Real-Time Transit Information Now Available in Several More Countries and Regions – Mac Rumors



    Apple removes Pocket Casts podcast player from App Store in China at government request – 9to5 Mac



    Apple Discontinuing iBooks Author on July 1, Encourages Writers to Transition to Pages – Mac Rumors



    Apple Discontinuing iTunes U at the End of 2021 – Mac Rumors



    Apple should acquire DuckDuckGo to put pressure on Google Search, analyst argues – 9to5 Mac



    ARM MAC SPECULATION

    Will the 12-inch MacBook return fully 'ARM'ed? – Creative Bloq
    New 12-inch MacBook could be Apple's first ARM Mac – Apple Post



    TECHNOLOGY


    Microsoft Just Gave A Billion Users A Reason To Quit Windows 10 — Forbes



    'OpenCore Computer' Launches Commercial Hackintosh in Violation of Apple's macOS Licensing Agreement [Updated] — MacRumors



    Lego Mindstorms blasts back after seven years with a 5-in-1 programmable robot kit — Stuff



    UK competition watchdog launches investigation into Facebook’s $400M acquisition of Giphy – TechCrunch



    Adobe Photoshop Camera Brings Real-Time Filters and AI to Photo Sharing – Mac Stories



    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    This app will tell you if your iPhone has been hacked — ZDNet

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS


    You can block YouTube ads by adding one symbol to the URL. 'With great power...' – Android Authority



    Krita: Digital Painting. Creative Freedom – Krita.org



    OpenToonz 2D Animation and vector illustration – GitHub




    Essential Apple Recommended Services:


    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.



    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.



    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.



    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.



    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.



    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?



    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!



    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.



    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.



    Wire – free for personal us

    • 52 min

Customer Reviews

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Evanking527 ,

Funny, entertaining, and positive

I live in the US and found your show through Apple News. I now listen to your show every week and enjoy its nice blend of funny moments with current events in technology. I also want to point out the positive nature of the show, since many others don't have the jovial feel as this one does on Apple Podcasts. I find myself smiling at the overall happy nature of the show, and I feel well informed by the end. I have been listening since August, and I look forward to hear what you have to say this September and onward.

teresahummel ,

So glad the crew is back

I was sorely missing the Mac and Forth show when Mark agreed to change from his Rampant Mumblings to Essential Apple. (thanks Mark!) It's great fun to hear you all talking Apple stuff again. The humor is greatly appreciated as I sit in traffic on my way to and from work. One of my favorite podcasts.

Ron.P ,

the new mac and forth show

This show is a great place to find out what is going on in the world of apple. With almost the entire crew from the mac and forth show there it was great. Even the same sound board. Great job.

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