The Exit Interview | On Air

Grace Media Digital

Work is changing fast — and honestly, so are we. AI is changing the landscape. Titles don’t mean what they used to. Value alignment is the new currency. And somewhere between burnout, ambition, and purpose, people are asking: What’s actually worth it? The old playbook for “success” doesn’t hit the same. The Exit Interview | On Air is here to unpack all of it. We're the ones who will tell the truth and asks the uncomfortable questions. Hosted by Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron, the show dives into the real stories behind bold career moves, identity shifts, innovation and reinvention in a world that refuses to sit still. Each week, we invite you into the conversation with people who’ve walked away, started over, or leveled up on their own terms: Trailblazers taking big swings and rewriting the rules. Reinventionists navigating non-linear careers and second acts. Culture Icons—actors, executives, creators, and disruptors leading the way. Insight Guides from business, tech, media, and finance who drop the tools and truths you actually need to survive this new world of work. This isn’t another corporate pep talk or LinkedIn highlight reel. It’s the group chat you wish you had — where ambition meets honesty, humor meets heart, and everyone’s just trying to make work...work again. We talk about the risks taken, negotiations and navigations, purpose and motivations — the stuff behind the résumés. Because let’s be real: success isn’t one-size-fits-all anymore. For some, it’s peace. For others, ownership. For most of us, it’s alignment. The Exit Interview fuses finance and entertainment, delivering storytelling with authentic human energy. The result? Smart, relatable conversations that sound less like interviews and more like real life. So pull up a seat. We’re your new work besties — here to laugh, unpack, and navigate this wild new era of work with you. Radically honest. Relatable. Real. Because not all exits are created equal.

  1. 1D AGO

    The Ugly Truth About Invisible Labor

    What happens when the institutions you devoted your career to building up were never actually built for you — and the only way forward is to admit the invisible labor is crushing you, the burnout is real, and rest isn't weakness, it's resistance? In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme and Dr. Alicia Bates, two scholar practitioners who built careers in higher education to change things from the inside. There struggles in higher education mirror professionals navigating today’s corporate culture. From navigating the brutal reality of being the only Latina or Black woman in senior leadership to the invisible labor of mentoring every student of color who walks through your door without it counting toward tenure or promotion, to the breaking point where you realize the institution recruited you for diversity but built zero infrastructure to retain you, this conversation unpacks what it actually costs to show up every day in spaces that weren't built for you. This episode explores: Why your career feels like a toxic relationship that doesn't love you back The invisible labor of being the go-to person without recognition or compensation How institutions spend money recruiting women of color but build no infrastructure to retain them Why COVID exposed the true colors of colleagues and forced impossible choices between grief, work, and survival The reality that to move up in your career you almost always have to move out How Gen Z is teaching millennials about boundaries, rest, and redefining success Why FMLA and rest without regret should be normalized, not stigmatized The truth about being thanked for "coordinating" when you actually did all the work How success shifted from climbing the ladder to investing in family, community, and a calm nervous system Whether you're navigating burnout, trying to figure out if it's time to stay or go, reconciling with the fact that the job you worked so hard for isn't reciprocating opportunities or redefining what success means when your nervous system is screaming for rest, this episode offers unvarnished truth about identity, labor, and what it takes to survive when the system was never designed with you in mind. Guests: Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme | Scholar Practitioner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaibis/ Dr. Alicia Bates | Scholar Practitioner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/draliciabates/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating invisible labor, burnout, and rest as resistance in higher education. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:52 Meet Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme and Dr. Alicia Bates 00:04:20 The Semester at Sea Effect: Finding Your Path 00:08:50 Living in Qatar and Moving for Career Growth 00:10:53 Grief, Loss, and Navigating COVID While Working 00:15:13 The Current DEI Landscape: Doing the Work Without the Words 00:23:39 The Invisible Labor of Women of Color in Higher Ed 00:21:53 The 24/7 Reality: Retention, Boundaries, and Burnout 00:40:07 COVID Revealed True Colors: Navigating Unprecedented Loss 00:42:00 Learning Boundaries from Gen Z 00:45:20 The Leadership Gap: Why Millennials Are Leaving Higher Ed 00:48:36 When Do You Stay and When Do You Go? 00:54:29 Rest as Resistance: FMLA, Stigma, and Taking Time 01:02:20 Redefining Success: From Titles to Time with Family 01:10:35 What Gives Us Hope: Students and the Next Generation

    1h 16m
  2. APR 1

    Quit Now or Wait for Severance? | Strategic Career Advice for Professionals Facing Layoffs

    What happens when the entertainment industry you built your career in starts cannibalizing itself — and the only way forward is to admit the models are broken, the ecosystem is collapsing, and no one knows what comes next? In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron unpack the seismic shifts happening across Hollywood as major studios face potential acquisitions, mass layoffs, and an existential reckoning with streaming, AI, and the rise of platforms like YouTube that are quietly eating everyone's lunch. From the looming Warner Bros. acquisition by Paramount to the brutal reality that severance packages won't save you when the competition for jobs doubles overnight, this conversation breaks down what's really happening behind the headlines — and what it means for the thousands of professionals who are about to be displaced. This episode explores: Why this moment feels like the 2008 global financial crisis for entertainment professionals The hard truth about severance packages and why employees with five years or less should start looking now How production has essentially stopped and creative work has stalled across the industry Why AI generated content is accelerating job displacement faster than anyone expected The challenge of building new media companies when the business models are shifting too fast to predict How streaming platforms are reverting back to the cable model — ads, weekly releases, and all Why YouTube is the dark horse no one saw coming and what that means for traditional studios The reality that there's no organized pipeline for displaced professionals to transition into the creator economy Why this isn't one massive layoff but death by a thousand cuts — and how to prepare Whether you're navigating uncertainty in your industry, facing a restructuring in real time, or trying to figure out what comes next when the ecosystem you relied on is fundamentally changed, this episode offers unvarnished truth about disruption, displacement, and what your options are to move forward. Because when the world as you know it looks completely different, the only option is to adapt or get left behind. Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating the collapse and reinvention of Hollywood. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:00 The Entertainment Industry's Financial Crisis Moment 00:01:13 Warner Bros Under Threat: What Employees Should Do Now 00:01:46 The Severance Reality: Washington Post as a Blueprint 00:03:03 Production Has Stopped: The Creative Drought 00:03:34 Why Breaking Off and Starting Small Media Companies Is So Hard 00:05:34 AI-Generated Content: The Four-Minute Trailer That Changes Everything 00:06:12 The Consultant Path: Pivoting to the Creator Economy 00:06:57 Creativity Will Always Find a Way 00:07:58 The Future of Theatrical: IMAX and the Sinners Effect 00:09:22 Streaming Becomes Cable: The Full Circle Moment 00:11:09 YouTube: The Dark Horse Eating Everyone's Lunch 00:13:33 The Organized System Is Gone: No Clear Path Forward 00:14:49 Death by a Thousand Cuts: The Rolling Layoff Crisis 00:16:38 Paramount vs Warner Bros: The Brand Mismatch

    19 min
  3. MAR 25

    The System Was Built to Treat Disease, Not Keep You Healthy | Dr. Darshan Shah

    What if the system designed to keep you healthy… was never built for health at all? In this episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Dr. Darshan Shah—board-certified surgeon, longevity expert, and founder of Next Health—who pivoted from traditional western medicine after it nearly destroyed his own health. After decades in high-stress surgery, Dr. Shah found himself overweight, diabetic, and burned out—despite being at the top of his field. What he discovered next challenges everything we think we know about healthcare, stress, and longevity. This conversation breaks down: Why Western medicine treats disease—not health The real reason high performers are burning out physically How stress (and cortisol) is silently driving chronic illness What functional medicine actually is—and why it’s growing fast The “CEO of your health” framework every ambitious person needs Simple shifts that can reverse long-term damage If you’re navigating career pressure, burnout, or a major life transition—this episode will change how you think about your health. Because in the Intelligence Age, performance isn’t just mental—it’s biological. Guest: Dr. Darshan Shah | Board Certified Surgeon | Physician | Longevity Specialist | Founder of Next Health IG: https://www.instagram.com/darshanshahmd/ Pod: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/extend-podcast-with-darshan-shah-md/id1773578243 Web: https://www.drshah.com/biomarkers Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. The truth about success no one tells you: your health is the asset. Chapters 00:00:00 “Doctors Don’t Learn Health” 00:01:26 Meet Dr. Darshan Shah (Surgeon → Founder of Next Health) 00:02:40 The Breaking Point: Burnout, Diabetes & 20 Years in Surgery 00:04:45 Why Doctors Are Unhealthy (And No One Talks About It) 00:08:34 Western Medicine Is Reactive, Not Preventative 00:11:37 What Is Functional Medicine? 00:15:47 How He Reversed His Own Chronic Disease 00:18:41 “Leaky Gut” Explained Simply 00:19:57 Hormone Therapy: Biggest Misunderstanding in Medicine 00:22:45 Stress Is the Root of Most Disease 00:24:20 The 30–40 Minute Rule That Changes Everything 00:28:00 Why “Grinding” Is Wrecking Your Health 00:30:20 Exercise Snacks: High-Performer Hack 00:32:49 Be the CEO of Your Own Health 00:34:50 The Health Metrics You Should Be Tracking 00:38:47 How to avoid misinformation and noise 00:43:35 How Stress Impacts Your Longevity

    1h 7m
  4. MAR 18

    -$11 to Emmy Award Winner | Lamorne Morris of New Girl and Fargo on Why Success Has No Cheat Codes

    Emmy Award-winning actor Lamorne Morris — best known as Winston on New Girl and for his Emmy-winning role in Fargo — sits down with hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron on The Exit Interview | On Air to share one of Hollywood's most earned success stories. From growing up on the South Side of Chicago, getting cut from his high school basketball team, and discovering comedy at Second City, to landing in LA with literally negative $11 in his bank account — Lamorne's path to Hollywood was anything but straight. In this episode we cover: How a repossessed car and a borrowed ride led to booking five national commercials in one week Why the casting director for New Girl discovered him through a Microsoft commercial shot in Budapest The difference between improvising on New Girl versus sticking to the script on Fargo His Emmy win, imposter syndrome, and what real success actually means to him Why he believes there is no cheat code — only passion, patience, and showing up Whether you're building a career, pivoting industries, or just trying to figure out your next move — Lamorne's story is proof that the most extraordinary careers rarely follow a straight line. Guest: Lamorne Morris | Emmy Award-Winning Actor | New Girl, Fargo, Spider Noir, Jumanji and more IG: https://www.instagram.com/lamorne/ Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Redefining success from negative $11 to Emmy winner. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:45 From Chicago to Second City: Finding the Clown Within 00:07:13 The BET Hosting Gig and Moving to New York 00:08:30 Struggling in LA: Living in Cars and Finding Community with Award Winning Artists 00:12:00 The Commercial Breakthrough: From Negative $11 to Six Figures 00:13:35 Landing New Girl: The Commercial That Changed Everything 00:13:59 Developing Winston: The Power of Weird and Endearing 00:17:40 The Emmy Moment: Fargo and Fighting Imposter Syndrome 00:22:09 From Comedy to Drama: Working with Noah Hawley on Fargo 00:29:43 The Tyrese Story and Dating in Hollywood 00:38:37 Podcasting and New Girl's Lasting Legacy 00:47:32 Character Development: From Instinct to Inspiration 00:51:31 Fatherhood and Career Choices: Prioritizing Family-Friendly Roles 00:59:29 Redefining Success: Freedom Over Fame

    1h 2m
  5. MAR 13

    Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon Explains What to Know Before Surgery | Dr. Stuart Linder (Bonus)

    In this bonus episode, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron get the inside scoop from top Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon Dr. Stuart Linder. Known as the body contouring specialist, Dr. Linder has spent nearly three decades mastering breast surgery, body sculpting, and educating the public on plastic surgery. Dr. Linder shares his journey of specialization and how he became one of the most sought-after breast surgeons in the country, completing thousands of surgeries. Dr. Linder shares 2026 trends, raw truths about materials, surgery and the results. Plus, why BBLs (Brazilian Butt Lifts) are one of the most dangerous cosmetic surgeries and why board certification with the American Board of Plastic Surgery, accredited surgical centers, and board certified anesthesiologists are non negotiable. Whether you're considering breast implants, explantation, fat grafting, a mommy makeover, or just trying to understand what body contouring is all about, this episode will explain all of it. Guest: Dr. Stuart Linder | Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon | Body Contouring & Breast Surgery Specialist IG: https://www.instagram.com/drstuartlinder/ Web: https://www.drlinder.com/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Mastering body contouring with experience and judgment. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:48 From Facial Surgery to Body Specialist: Finding Your Niche 00:02:41 Breast Implant Trends 2026: Smaller Is the New Bigger 00:03:09 The Explant Movement: Why Women Are Removing Implants 00:05:19 Implant Profiles Explained: High vs Moderate Projection 00:06:05 Fat Grafting to Breasts: The Serial Approach 00:07:16 Silicone vs Saline: Understanding Implant Materials 00:08:57 Implant Rupture and Lifespan: What You Need to Know 00:11:31 Post-Surgery Maintenance: The Bra Myth Debunked 00:13:00 BBL Safety Concerns and Hip Dip Alternative 00:14:17 Mommy Makeover Reality: Scars vs Results 00:15:16 Choosing Your Surgeon: The Essential Checklist

    17 min
  6. MAR 11

    The Creator Playbook | Fame, Hate & Reinvention Across Two Generations

    Dr. Stuart Linder and Blake Linder prove that being a public figure across two generations isn’t about chasing visibility — it’s about passion, mastery of your craft, and knowing when to evolve from the platform that made you famous to the project that will define your legacy. In this episode, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with the father-son duo who built public platforms in radically different eras. Dr. Stuart Linder, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, broke into broadcast television when it was taboo for doctors to appear in media. Through appearances on MTV’s I Want a Famous Face, Discovery Channel, and The Dr. Oz Show, he educated millions about plastic surgery — even before his colleagues were onboard. His son Blake Linder broke into the creator economy before it even had a name. At just 14 years old, he built a global following on YouTube, creating vlogs and sneaker videos that gave him global fame as a teenager. But with the audience came the realities of growing up in the public eye — hate comments, death threats, and the pressure of always being “on.” Together they unpack the invisible tax of public visibility — the fan love, the relentless criticism, and the responsibility that comes with influence and how to leverage the experience to build a future legacy together. At the height of his YouTube success, Blake stepped away from the platform to pursue filmmaking, studying at Chapman Dodge College of Film and Media Arts and USC’s Cinematic Arts program. Today, he and his father have launched Linder Productions and are developing their first feature film. This episode explores fame, the creator economy, career pivots, and the discipline required to build something meaningful across generations and to always bet on yourself. Guests: Dr. Stuart Linder | Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon | Celebrity Doctor & Media Pioneer | Founder, Linder Productions IG: https://www.instagram.com/drstuartlinder/ Web: https://www.drlinder.com/ Blake Linder | Former YouTube Star | Director & Founder, Linder Productions IG: https://www.instagram.com/blakelinder/ Web: https://www.linderproductions.com/ Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating fame, passion, and reinvention across two generations. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:36 The Celebrity Doctor: Breaking Into Broadcast Before It Was Mainstream 00:09:40 The YouTube Phenomenon: From Sneakers to Millions of Fans at 14 00:10:45 The St. Barts Breakthrough: Going Viral and Building a Following 00:14:56 Staying Humble: Fan Love, Death Threats, and the Steph Curry Lesson 00:17:59 Motivational Talks and Giving Back: Using the Platform for Good 00:20:25 Managing Hate and Protecting Family: The Dark Side of Fame 00:27:29 The Transition to Film: From YouTube to Chapman Dodge Film School 00:29:39 The Xavier Story: Using Influence to Change Lives 00:33:29 Founding Linder Productions: Father and Son Launch a Film Company 00:38:34 Father Figure: The First Feature Film and Proof of Concept 00:40:29 The Horror Genre: Why Gore, Low Budgets, and Cult Followings Work 00:48:16 The Farm: The Next Big Project and Building a Legacy 00:46:19 Advice for First-Time Filmmakers: Craft, Presence, and the Pure Moment 00:49:57 Passion Over Pressure: Why Following Your Calling Matters

    52 min
  7. MAR 7 ·  BONUS

    The Beauty Tax | The Unspoken Tax Women Pay for Corporate Authority

    The beauty tax isn't just about makeup and heels — it's the invisible extra hour women spend preparing to command authority in rooms where appearance determines whether you're heard or dismissed. Hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron dive into one of the most unspoken yet universal experiences in professional women's lives: the presentation tax that comes with showing up to board meetings, C-suite presentations, and high-stakes rooms where your credibility is measured before you even open your mouth. From the brutal reality that looking polished isn't optional when you're trying to be taken seriously, to the strategic calculation of heels, sleek hair, and flawless makeup that becomes part of the performance, to the menopause wake-up call that hits overnight with weight gain and hot flashes nobody warns you about, they unpack why women navigate an entirely different set of expectations around appearance, aging, and authority — and how to survive it without losing yourself in the process. Nothing is off limits including hormone therapy, GLP-1s, Botox, skincare and more. Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. The unspoken tax women pay for corporate authority. If you’re dealing with hormone imbalances, hot flashes, or just not feeling like yourself, it may be time to check your hormone levels. Visit NextHealth Calabasas https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills for advanced hormone testing and personalized hormone therapy designed to help you feel balanced, energized, and like yourself again. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:07 The Presentation Tax: Extra Hours Women Spend Preparing 00:00:47 The Menopause Wake-Up Call: HRT and Hormones 00:01:38 Skincare Secrets 00:02:36 The Botox Debate: Needles, Fear, and Alternatives

    4 min
  8. MAR 4

    The Turnaround Expert | From CEO of American Apparel &True Religion to the Board Firing CEOs

    Chelsea Grayson proves that running into a burning building isn't reckless — it's the ultimate act of leadership when you're the only one willing to make the hard calls, fire the toxic players, and save thousands of jobs. Hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with the former CEO of American Apparel, True Religion, and Spark Networks, a former Big Law equity partner who made the rare leap from General Counsel to the C-suite and built a career as the turnaround expert who gets called when companies are bleeding cash, drowning in lawsuits, and headed straight into Chapter 11. From being recruited out of private practice to save a publicly traded company that had lost over $300 million in five years, to negotiating a debt-for-equity swap with hedge funds as the company teetered on the edge of bankruptcy, to ultimately being tapped by Goldman Sachs to do it all over again at True Religion, Chelsea unpacks her journey of radical accountability — how she went from never planning to go in-house to becoming the CEO boards call when everything is on fire, why communication was her biggest weakness as a new CEO, and how she learned to weaponize transparency and radical honesty to earn trust in companies where trust had been completely destroyed. Chelsea reveals why General Counsels rarely make the jump to CEO but how her business acumen, boardroom presence, and reputation as the department of yes (not no) positioned her as the only person who knew the business, the board, and the bondholders well enough to lead American Apparel through its darkest days. She shares raw truths about why the glass cliff is real — women and people of color get handed crisis CEO roles when companies are dying, and if it fails, the narrative becomes exactly what they expected — and why she negotiated her exit strategy from day one because controlling the narrative when you leave is just as important as how you enter. Plus, how toxic leaders never get better and need to be fired immediately along with anyone who supported them, and why she tells every new CEO that if the board hasn't required a 90-day plan, you better be creating one anyway and communicating radically with your board from week one so they're never in the dark, never scared, and never looking to blame you. But the real game-changer? Understanding that being a CEO is about saving the community — the employees, the vendors, the customers — not just maximizing shareholder value, and that great culture starts with great leadership that knows when to step aside. Chelsea breaks down why middle management gets eliminated first during restructuring, how she restructured reporting lines so the CEO isn't doing the business every day but instead dealing with the board and compliance, why she spent more time hugging factory workers and touring retail locations than sitting in her office, and how active listening, humility, and never being a know-it-all are the keys to wielding influence in the boardroom. She discusses why board members want consensus (not surprises), how women must speak meaningfully in their first three board meetings or risk never being heard again, why boldness means making decisions and using your voice even when you're terrified, and how her definition of success has always been the same — being the hub of a community she's been building since high school, staying true to her core values, and making sure everyone depending on her knows she'll follow through. Whether you're navigating a restructuring, preparing for a C-suite transition, trying to understand what boards actually do, rebuilding trust in a broken company, or figuring out how to position yourself for a board seat, this episode offers battle-tested wisdom on turnarounds, governance, influence, and why the only thing boards care about is hiring and firing the CEO. Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron Guest: Chelsea Grayson | Former CEO, American Apparel, True Religion & Spark Networks | Managing Director, Pivot | Board Member & Turnaround Expert Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. From CEO of American Apparel & True Religion to the board firing CEOs. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:06 From Big Law Partner to CEO: The Unexpected Jump 00:03:53 The American Apparel Crisis: Running Into a Burning Building 00:05:25 Building Influence from the General Counsel Seat 00:09:07 The Transition to CEO: Communication as the Biggest Challenge 00:22:40 Patterns of Failure: What Bad CEOs Get Wrong 00:28:01 Restructuring 101: Who Reports to the CEO and Why 00:51:15 The 90-Day Plan: Radical Communication with Your Board 00:39:45 From CEO to Board Member: Making the Transition 00:42:53 The Power of the Boardroom: Governance and Influence 00:44:26 Active Listening and Building Consensus: The Keys to Influence 00:47:23 Advice for Aspiring Leaders: Be Bold and Speak Up 01:00:26 Defining Success: Building a Community, Not Just a Career

    1h 4m

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Work is changing fast — and honestly, so are we. AI is changing the landscape. Titles don’t mean what they used to. Value alignment is the new currency. And somewhere between burnout, ambition, and purpose, people are asking: What’s actually worth it? The old playbook for “success” doesn’t hit the same. The Exit Interview | On Air is here to unpack all of it. We're the ones who will tell the truth and asks the uncomfortable questions. Hosted by Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron, the show dives into the real stories behind bold career moves, identity shifts, innovation and reinvention in a world that refuses to sit still. Each week, we invite you into the conversation with people who’ve walked away, started over, or leveled up on their own terms: Trailblazers taking big swings and rewriting the rules. Reinventionists navigating non-linear careers and second acts. Culture Icons—actors, executives, creators, and disruptors leading the way. Insight Guides from business, tech, media, and finance who drop the tools and truths you actually need to survive this new world of work. This isn’t another corporate pep talk or LinkedIn highlight reel. It’s the group chat you wish you had — where ambition meets honesty, humor meets heart, and everyone’s just trying to make work...work again. We talk about the risks taken, negotiations and navigations, purpose and motivations — the stuff behind the résumés. Because let’s be real: success isn’t one-size-fits-all anymore. For some, it’s peace. For others, ownership. For most of us, it’s alignment. The Exit Interview fuses finance and entertainment, delivering storytelling with authentic human energy. The result? Smart, relatable conversations that sound less like interviews and more like real life. So pull up a seat. We’re your new work besties — here to laugh, unpack, and navigate this wild new era of work with you. Radically honest. Relatable. Real. Because not all exits are created equal.