the Field trip

Alister Fitzgerald

A podcast about the future of commercial real estate, the future of law, and everything in between.

Episodes

  1. 04/28/2021

    15. Law Encoded w/ Andrew Stirling of Tanda

    Andrew Stirling is the Head of Product Compliance at Tanda, the world’s #1 platform for rostering, attendance, labour insights and workforce success, and a local Brisbane technology success story. Andrew has been in this role for 18 months, following him making the very bold decision to leave solid partnership prospects at a top tier law firm. We go wide with Andrew, with discussion including what prompted him to make this significant career pivot, the challenges and successes of his journey so far and the broad gap between the thinking of lawyers and software engineers and how he is successfully bridging that divide. We also dig deep into our respective views on what technology is doing and might do to the way law is practiced. A great conversation. We hope you enjoy. Find out more about Tanda at https://www.tanda.co/ 'The Field Trip' also available in video at:  https://youtu.be/M0NPXTwBo-E and as a written transcript at: https://www.fieldql.com/podcast-transcripts Find out more about Field at https://www.fieldql.com Overview 00:00 Open 01:43 Legal to non-legal career transition 06:59 Tanda and Andrew's product compliance role 14:50 From (employment) awards to code, and Tanda Paysure 18:04 Proactive legal services as a new market 22:24 Daily activities compared with private legal practice 26:40 From legal rules to algorithms 32:49 Transferability of legal skills 36:42 Learning new things 39:11 Rapid fire questions 42:03 Legal digital platforms 48:34 Value of information generated by legal process 56:31 Impact of tech on legal process 59:31 Future thinking - employment law 01:09:41 Andrew is obsessed with - great business books!

    1h 14m

  2. 09/21/2020

    10. It’s time to be bold, with Kai Schindlmayr and Steve Urwin from Kernel Property

    Overview Kernel Property is one of Australia’s leading tenant advisory firms, with a strong track record in working for professional services firms, particularly law firms. We speak with two of its Directors, Kai Schindlmayr and Steve Urwin, to discuss their perspective on the impact of the pandemic now, and how things might change in the future. This is the third in a series of episodes focusing on emerging future trends in commercial real estate driven by the pandemic. From the unfortunate lack of collaboration in current negotiations, to the concept of a fragmented office, to office pop ups in suburban retail space, to the future of face rents, we cover a lot of ground. This was a fun and information rich discussion discussion, which we hope you enjoy. Resources More about Kernel Property: https://www.kernelproperty.com.au Kernel Property recent podcasts & media: https://www.kernelproperty.com.au/news-and-resources More about Field at https://www.fieldql.com Timestamps 0:00 Start 1:08 Guest introduction 3:00 A collaborative approach to lease negotiation? 11:57 Current vibe in the CBD 15:35 Are Lease terms becoming more flexible? 19:54 The fragmented office 23:25 Will rent expenditure just reduce? 27:29 Impacts on productivity 27:54 Do decision makers lack empathy for their workforce? 33:01 Who should bear the risk of a pandemic under a lease? 44:22 (How) will office design change? 58:12 Repurposing suburban retail for office hubs 1:03:30 Will face rents survive? 1:07:44 Are we overmeeting’d? 1:15:22 Kai likes to Dunk!

    1h 18m

  3. 08/03/2020

    9. Events Will Change, with Jen Williams of the Property Council

    Events Will Change.  How physical events will look different in a post pandemic world, with Jen Williams, Deputy Executive Director for the Property Council in Queensland. This is the second in a series of episodes focusing on emerging future trends in commercial real estate driven by the pandemic In this discussion, Jen shares a range of very relevant perspectives, including the PCA’s involvement in the pandemic driven regulation on commercial real estate and the outcome reached; how the broad spectrum of the PCA’s members are currently faring; how the PCA itself is easing its way back into the office (for now?); and what the PCA’s events business looks like now, and might look like in future, and extrapolating from there to how we will all engage physically in the future. Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 4:27 What does the PCA do? 6:56 Pandemic impact on PCA membership 11:59 Pandemic impact on PCA itself 15:03 Will meeting culture change? 17:10 Virtual creativity is challenging 19:42 Virtual comms. tech will rapidly improve 20:22 Gaming tech to enter corporate communications 23:21 PCA's return to the office 26:44 CRE Mandatory Code of Conduct 34:19 Office building classifications  38:43 PCA events - now and in future 46:04 How PPE for everyone might evolve  49:13 Members want in-person events back now! 52:06 PCA Cities Committee 54:30 Jen has a green thumb!  55:57 End

    56 min

  4. 07/15/2020

    8. Zoom kills creative collaboration, with Mark Grant of White & Partners

    Observations and predictions on the impact of the pandemic on commercial offices from Mark Grant of White & Partners, a real estate advisory firm based in Brisbane. This is the first in a series of episodes focusing on emerging future trends in commercial real estate driven by the pandemic. Our conversation with Mark includes discussion of a broad range of changing elements in office design, from human density in offices unwinding, to the importance of lighting and acoustics to facilitate all those Zoom calls, to the criticality of in-person interactions for creative endeavours. Timestamps 3.21 White & Partners moves back to the office 6.02 Current state of the market 9.46 Pandemic lease renegotiations 13.53 Office market breakdown - by location 15.24 Face rents will potentially come back 17.09 Influence of sublease activity 18.24 Pandemic impacts on demand - up and down 20.54 Creativity can't be done by remote 24.19 Pandemic promotes better work patterns 25.39 Tenancy layout changes - density et al 28.30 More thoughtful design in office space 30.51 High desk density will unwind 32.51 Meeting rooms - meeting is who we are 35.26 Videocon tech; acoustics and lighting 38.40 We need training to present virtually 44.10 Suburban focus - hub and spoke 48.46 Collab. leasing approach to persist 51.01 Mark's passion for the ocean

    53 min

  5. 06/25/2020

    7. Innovation Process Makes Better Lawyers, with Bradley Price of Frasers Property Industrial

    Bradley Price, General Counsel for Frasers Property Industrial, joins the podcast to talk about innovation within the legal function and the broader business. Frasers has a very impressive framework for driving innovation, which Brad shares with us, but three things from this discussion really stood out. First is the power of incremental innovation across the entire organisation. Small things matter. Second is the importance of involving the customer (both internal and external) in the innovation process. Third is how the process of innovation, where an answer is not immediately apparent, has challenged Brad’s legal problem-solving mindset and, ultimately, made him a better lawyer. Timestamps 2:40 – Overview of the Frasers business: history (Australand) and current structure 5:10 – Brad is a man with a sense of humour 7:10 – The innovation spectrum 10:10 – Innovation at Frasers – a breakdown of the process 13:00 – A legal team ‘embedded’ within the business 15:40 – Physical office layout impacting on internal collaboration 20:15 – How innovative ideas are sourced and progressed at Frasers 25:45 – Customer input in the innovation process 29:40 – How innovation process has made Brad a better lawyer 31:55 –  Collaboration within Frasers at the international level 33:10 – Brad shows off his Spanish!

    35 min

  6. 05/21/2020

    6. Movement matters, with lawyer, athlete and coach, Tim Franklin

    We are talking with Tim Franklin: lawyer, triathlete, coach, motivational speaker - a true multi-disciplinary human being. We will talk about juggling professional pursuits, his passion for movement, his amazing feats whilst in quarantine (including a full marathon inside his apartment!), and how the world might see movement differently after this difficult time. You can follow Tim at: Instagram: @timmyrfranklin || https://www.instagram.com/timmyrfranklin/ Facebook: Tim Franklin || https://www.facebook.com/tim.franklin.948 Email: tim@ownyourownshow.com Website: www.ownyourownshow.com This podcast was initially live-streamed on Sunday 17 May 2020, with a copy available at: YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4c8Rz_rzc Facebook Live:  https://www.facebook.com/fieldql/live/

    1h 8m

  7. 01/28/2020

    5. Grass Roots Innovation, with Kim Richards, Qld State Member for Redlands

    Kim is a former COO of both Cox Architecture and Architectus with involvement in projects including The Gallery of Modern Art in Brisbane, Sunshine Coast University Hospital and the Singapore Marina Bay Helix Bridge.  But Kim's career took an interesting turn about 5 years ago when she was prompted into action, beginning her transition from architecture into the world of politics. We speak with Kim about this transition, what it is like to be a local member, and how this differs from her life in the private sector. This discussion opened a can of worms of innovation at the grass roots level in Redlands, including an autonomous bus pilot program currently underway, and a collaboration with QUT (Queensland University of Technology) to test technology which creates hydrogen fuel for vehicles, ultimately for export overseas. A wide ranging and engaging discussion.

    59 min

  8. 11/21/2019

    4. Data security crash course + big data applications in real world scenarios, with Stephen Kho of Micro Focus

    In the latest episode of The Field Trip podcast, we speak with Stephen Kho of Micro Focus. Micro Focus provides big data analytics and data security solutions to some of the world’s biggest companies, including Uber and Facebook. Stephen talks us through some of the problems he helps customer overcome (which became a crash course in enterprise data security!) and then goes on to explain practical applications of big data by taking a deep dive into three different industry use cases – airports, aged care, and public transport. So if you are keen to understand more about the foundational technologies that underpin the hype, and like to see how different industries are applying data to solve their biggest problems, I think this is worth a listen.

    58 min

  9. 10/28/2019

    3. The breadth of the technology and commercial real estate challenge, with Louise Monger of AMP Capital

    On the day of recording Louise was appointed the Program Manager for Technology and Innovation for real estate, for AMP Capital. Louise started her career as an electrician in the mining industry, moved into real estate facilities management to ultimately lead that function for AMP Capital, and has now combined these skills, her industry know-how and executive savvy to take the lead for a mission-critical strategic initiative for one of Australia’s most significant landlords. Louise shares a wide range of insights, from the practical to the forward reaching, and sets the stage for what will be a (the?) major battleground for commercial real estate players over the next decade and beyond.

    52 min

  10. 04/03/2019

    2. Is this the Airbnb for commercial office space? with Jim Groves of Rubberdesk

    In the second episode of the Field trip podcast, we talk to Jim Groves, CEO of Rubberdesk, the leading online marketplace for flexible office space in the Australian market. With current listings exceeding 15,000 desks, Rubberdesk is injecting flexibility of use into the traditional commercial leasing framework, benefiting landlords and tenants alike. What I found most interesting, however, was the community aspect to Rubberdesk - how it is facilitating strong and diverse business networks amongst its hosts and users - organically built from the ground up.  This led into a discussion about the untapped potential of suburban office precincts, both now and into the future.

    1 hr

  11. 02/26/2019

    1. Will weWork change everything?! with Steve Urwin, Kernel Property

    In our kick-off episode, we talk about co-working now and in the future, with leading tenant advocate, Steve Urwin of Kernel Property.  And it is hard to have that discussion without continued reference to the biggest show on the global stage, weWork! Steve explains who is actually using these type of services, how different industries differ in their approach to flexible office space, how weWork is growing its focus on big enterprise, and what the crystal ball is telling him about the future of it all. Steve also shares his passion for environmental causes, and how Kernel Property embraces this passion in its approach to its own office space. Notes from the podcast Law firm use of offices - UK vs Australia (4:45) Law firm vs accounting firms - approach to space generally (6:40) weWork does not look like a tech startup space! (9:05) Who is using co-working spaces in Australian market? (11:00) weWork's enterprise model (12:20) Co-working spaces are taking smaller tenants from traditional office landlords (14:02) Traditional landlords are being cautious with their 'flexible' space offerings (16:40) Discussion on some current traditional landlord flexible space offerings - DEXUS Place, Space & Co (GPT) (17:15) Law firms are not factoring in co-working providers as part of their space planning (20:10) Deloitte is requiring its new Melbourne landlord to provide a common use function space (23:45) The importance of brand to internalising function space (24:00) Law firm partnership structure drives a different type of decision making to traditional corporates (24:50) Law firms are becoming consulting firms (26:10) Is ‘big tech’ culture impacting the style of the traditional workplace? (28:00) Sit-stand desks need to be available to all, or not at all (31:15) What is weWork trying to be? (33:00) weWork's recent capital raising and valuation (33:30) weWork's enterprise business (33:50) weWork's use of SPVs and higher bank guarantees on leases (35:45) weWork's potential longer term play - will it remain a lease intermediary, or become the virtual layer between landlord and tenant? (37:30) IWG (owner of Regus) - comparison of valuations with weWork (40:20) IWG changing its business model to align more with weWork (42:00) Steve Urwin, the environmentalist (45:20) Sophia Skarparis - amazing young Australian conservationist, driving the ban of plastic bags in NSW (46:50) Dr Michael Seo of CSIRO's Graphene Membranes group - developed a carbon nanomaterial "GraphAir" (derived from simple waste oil) - a filtration membrane with potential future application in every household (47:15) Don't offer Steve a plastic bag!! (47:50) The benefits of reusing office fitout - the beginnings of a sequel? ;)  (48:20) Field helps owners of commercial real estate (and law firms advising them) better understand their lease portfolios, delivering analysis through our proprietary platform.  Better insights, sooner - a source of truth for all stakeholders - enabling faster and lower risk transactions and better operational management.  You can reach out to us here.

    50 min
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A podcast about the future of commercial real estate, the future of law, and everything in between.

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  • Creator
    Alister Fitzgerald
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2021
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Alister Fitzgerald
  • Show Website
    the Field trip