The Flip Side

Barclays Investment Bank

This podcast series features a lively debate between two of Barclays’ Research analysts taking opposing viewpoints on timely topics of importance to economies and businesses around the globe. By hearing arguments and insights on both sides, we hope you will come away with a greater understanding of the economic implications of sometimes polarizing issues. For more insights from our experts: https://www.ib.barclays Important content disclosures: https://www.ib.barclays/disclosures/important-content-disclosures.html

  1. 1D AGO

    Should alternative asset managers be trading like software?

    Private credit has been a powerful growth engine for alternative asset managers, with business development corporations (BDCs) playing a central role. As AI adoption accelerates and software business models come under pressure, investors are concerned with how exposed these managers are to software and other tech-enabled business models that could be disrupted. In recent weeks, investors have sold down their positions, sending some alternative asset managers’ stock prices down roughly 25%. But is that selloff rational or not? In episode 81 of The Flip Side, Brad Rogoff, our Global Head of Research, is joined by Ben Budish, our Equity Research Analyst who covers US Brokers, Asset Managers and Exchanges, to debate whether the recent selloff was justified. They discuss why AI disruption has become a focal point for markets, how valuation frameworks for alternative managers amplify volatility, and where risks may be overstated versus structurally real. The conversation also explores what this means for future growth across private credit, private equity and insurance channels, and where differentiation may emerge after an indiscriminate selloff. Listeners can hear more on this topic on our sister podcast, Barclays Brief: Software: In the AI storm Clients of Barclays Investment Bank can read more on our view on equities with our latest reports on Barclays Live, including: Barclays HY Software Agentic AI Disruption Risk in FocusSoftware Is Not Dead, Just ChangingWidespread Exposure to Software Creates Uncertainty Important Content Disclosures

    12 min
  2. 10/02/2025

    Is the AI investment cycle a sign of history repeating?

    Artificial intelligence has become the defining investment theme of the current market cycle, with capital expenditure on AI infrastructure reaching unprecedented levels. Hyperscalers have announced nearly $400 billion in capex for this year alone, and forecasts suggest annual increases of 30% in the years ahead. As investors weigh the promise of this transformative technology against the risks of overbuilding, the debate intensifies: will markets continue to run efficiently or are we repeating the excesses of past tech booms that led to busts? In Episode 76 of The Flip Side podcast, Brad Rogoff, Global Head of Research, and Venu Krishna, Head of US Equity Strategy, examine the forces behind the AI investment surge and consider the bull and bear cases that surge presents. They explore whether current spending is justified by demand, how power and infrastructure constraints could shape the outlook, and what lessons can be drawn from previous cycles of rapid tech expansion. With AI capex now central to both equity valuations and broader economic growth, this episode unpacks the critical questions facing portfolio managers as they navigate one of the most consequential debates in today’s markets. For deeper insight, clients can access related Barclays Research on Barclays Live: Equity Strategy: Lost My Chain-of-Thought: Could the AI narrative stumble? Food for Thought: Generative AI vs. cash generation Episode 69 'Is there too much hype for AI and the hyperscalers?' Important Content Disclosures

    18 min
4.5
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106 Ratings

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This podcast series features a lively debate between two of Barclays’ Research analysts taking opposing viewpoints on timely topics of importance to economies and businesses around the globe. By hearing arguments and insights on both sides, we hope you will come away with a greater understanding of the economic implications of sometimes polarizing issues. For more insights from our experts: https://www.ib.barclays Important content disclosures: https://www.ib.barclays/disclosures/important-content-disclosures.html

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