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Back-room strategist and pollster, David Herle, is joined on the podcast by journalists, politicians, sports figures, musicians and opinion leaders.

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Back-room strategist and pollster, David Herle, is joined on the podcast by journalists, politicians, sports figures, musicians and opinion leaders.

    Fred DeLorey: 2021 National Campaign Manager, Conservative Party of Canada

    Fred DeLorey: 2021 National Campaign Manager, Conservative Party of Canada

    The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail, the Nuclear Innovation Institute, and Uber Canada.

    We have what I think is a great pod for you today because our guest is someone I’ve wanted to get in here for a long time. He’s someone I have a lot in common with, as we’ve both been strategists and campaign directors for Prime Ministerial candidates.

    Fred DeLorey is our guest today!

    Most know him as the man who helped Erin O’Toole win the Conservative leadership in 2020. And then, managed Mr. O’Toole’s ultimately unsuccessful bid to become Prime Minister in 2021.

    Fred has also served as Director of Field Operations for Ontario Premier Doug Ford. He a former Director of Political Operations for Stephen Harper. As well as Director of Comms. Prior to that, he was Atlantic Canada Advisor in the Office of the Prime Minister. He’s even run for political office himself, in Central Nova in 2015. Right now, he’s a Managing Partner at Deslauriers Public Affairs.

    So, here’s our conversation today:
    We’re going to break down the 2021 Campaign. What actually happened? What Fred hoped would happen? What surprised him? And what got in the way of a victory?We’ll also talk China election interference. If you read Fred’s op-ed in The Star on March 5th, he advocates for a different approach than a public inquiry.And finally, we’ll do a little Pierre Poilievre speculating. What’s going to happen in the next election? And would 2019 or 2021 been any different with Poilievre as leader, instead of Scheer or O’Toole?Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Banking, Inflation, and Government Spending: Amanda Lang and Kevin Carmichael

    Banking, Inflation, and Government Spending: Amanda Lang and Kevin Carmichael

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    We just managed to get this pod in, before the end of the week. But it’s packed with the kind of high business intellect guests you need to “get-your-weekend-off-to-a-what-the-goddamn-hell-is-happening-to-the-economy” anxiety ridden start.

    Amanda Lang and Kevin Carmichael are here!

    Amanda is one of the highest profile business journalists in the country. Currently, back at BNN Bloomberg … a network she helped launch as ROBTV over two decades ago. She’s also worked at CNN, the Globe and Mail and National Post. And she was senior business correspondent for CBC news, where she anchored “The Exchange with Amanda Lang”, daily on CBC News Network. And now, as a 2-time guest of The Herle Burly, she’s earned the distinction of official “Friend of the pod”.

    Kevin Carmichael is also an official “Friend of The Herle Burly”. And now, a 3-time guest. But he’s probably better known as Editor-In-Chief of The Financial Post. One of Canada’s leading, and award-winning business journalists, he also served as a Senior Fellow of the Centre for International Governance Innovation.

    So, here’s what we’re talking about today:
    Regulation … and this pesky spate of recent bank failures.Inflation… we’ll dive into the always deep end of inflation and interest rates.Governments … industrial policy and providing subsidies and tax incentives to industry.Then … the upcoming budget. What’s likely to be in there? What should be in there?Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

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    • 1 hr 6 min
    Financial Accountability, the Economy and Healthcare

    Financial Accountability, the Economy and Healthcare

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    This is a notable pod. A distinguished pod. A record setting pod! Because today on the show, we have a guest who’s making his 4th appearance.

    Today, Peter Weltman takes his place atop the upper echelon of Herle Burly contributors. Regular listeners will remember that Mr. Weltman is the Independent Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario.

    That means he heads an office that provides independent fiscal, financial and economic analysis on the state of the province’s finances ... plus trends in the provincial economy. He’s just released a report that stated, rather remarkably, that Ontario is going to be short … oh … just a tad over $21 billion dollars (21 billion!) by 2027, and so will be “unlikely” to achieve the Ford government’s stated commitments of adding enough beds and staff to keep up with demand.

    Mr. Weltman told reporters this week: “Even with current expansion plans by 2027, Ontario will have less capacity in hospitals and long-term care than it did in 2019.”

    We’re going to dive head long into that, plus a wider look at financial accountability and the economy.

    Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

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    • 1 hr 11 min
    CONFLICT: Stag and "Dough" with Pinkerton + Smith Cross

    CONFLICT: Stag and "Dough" with Pinkerton + Smith Cross

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    We have a very timely, and as it played itself out these last few weeks, controversial topic to discuss on the pod today. Our guests are journalists Jessica Smith Cross and Charlie Pinkerton, who until recently were employed at Queen’s Park Briefing, which is now owned by one of the 2 former proprietors of TorStar, Paul Rivett.

    Ms. Smith Cross as an editor. Mr. Pinkerton as a reporter and editor.

    They had the story of Premier Ford’s Daughter’s fundraising Stag and Doe party – attended by developers eyeing the Greenbelt – all ready to go for QP Briefing. A story of the Premier’s potential conflict of interest. Until the new ownership at the publication intervened and killed it.

    That story was eventually published, and followed up on, in The Star and other media outlets.

    Ms. Smith Cross and Mr. Pinkerton both resigned from QP Briefing, and have now launched TheTrillium.ca, covering Queen’s Park.

    We have a great piece by Jim Coyle about all of this over at AirQuotesMedia.com, called “Conflict: Powerful Men Not Getting Basic Principles.” In it, Jim writes: “some journalism organization should strike a reporting award in the names of Jessica Smith Cross and Charlie Pinkerton. Their integrity and courage marked a shining moment in the news biz in Ontario.”

    We’re going to dive deeply into all this today. Why is the Stag and Doe story important? What was the level of interference from ownership at QP Briefing? How did it manifest itself? Why did it differ over at The Star? And we’ll also talk about the current state of journalism in general.
    Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

    • 57 min
    The Chiefs: Crafting a Budget

    The Chiefs: Crafting a Budget

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    Welcome back to our semi-regular feature here on The Herle Burly, called “The Chiefs”. The Chiefs is a panel of 3 former Chiefs of Staffs to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government:

    Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper, and central to the founding of the CPC. Now … Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary.

    Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin … now CEO and Managing Partner at McMillan LLP.

    Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta … Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan … and one of the architects of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave, federally. Today, he’s a founding partner at GT&co.

    Today’s discussion is prompted by the upcoming federal budget. We’re going to talk about how exactly a budget gets put together. Where do the ideas come from? What are the roles of the PMO? The PCO? Finance? Cabinet? Caucus? … in the budget process? What should the purpose of a budget be? And what does it represent, writ large? Then we’ll switch gears and get The Chiefs’ impressions of what the government should be thinking about as it prepares this budget.
    Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

    • 1 hr 26 min
    Rachel Notley

    Rachel Notley

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    Alright you loyal and courageous Herle Burly-ites. A timely and important pod with a very special guest, the Honourable Rachel Notley is here!

    Ms. Notley served as the 17th Premier of Alberta and is currently a member of the legislative assembly for Edmonton-Strathcona, and leader of the Alberta New Democratic Party. A lawyer before entering politics, focussing on labour law and workers’ rights, she was first elected in 2008 and won the leadership of her party in 2014 on the first ballot, with 70% of the vote. Ms. Notley then went on to win a majority government in the 2015 provincial election, ending 44 years of continuous rule by the Progressive Conservatives.

    Here’s where I’d like to take this today:
    We’re going to get Ms. Notley’s assessment of the current UCP government under Danielle Smith.What’s right and fair with respect to energy policy?Her take on the health accord and what should happen with health care, writ large.The state of the federation and how to address the Alberta anger and alienation.What’s the path to victory for the Ms. Notley and the NDP in the upcoming election?Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts or your favourite podcast app.

    • 1 hr 1 min

Customer Reviews

4.3 out of 5
16 Ratings

16 Ratings

srhasting1 ,

Don’t spill your rum and coke

Irreverent and yet biting political insight with some really amazing guests. I mean who else gets Francis Donald and Brian Mulroney on the same show? At least once an episode one of the three regulars say something that results in whatever I am drinking ending up on the floor. Funny and yet insightful and brutally true - a land where the politically correct pods fear to tread.

mritche ,

Great show but some gross ads hurt credibility

I regularly listen to Hurly Burly and appreciate the different viewpoints. David clearly has his priors, but long as you’re aware of that (ditto with some of his guests, who aren’t always politically aligned with him), you’ll do well to listen. This is mostly politics with very little policy, so keep that in mind and look elsewhere for that. The constant barrage of cloying, disingenuous telecom ads is the only real issue I have. I’m totally cool with podcast advertising in general; creators need to monetize. But we all know who listens to this podcast and we all know how captured Canada’s regulatory environment is when it comes to telecoms. It feels like nearly every time I tune in, I receive a distasteful reminder that companies like Telus are buying the opportunity to whisper talking points into the ears of Canada’s most politically engaged. These are borderline political ads and where/how they’re presented is too close to an endorsement for comfort. This damages the host’s credibility. Please, avoid ads which are thinly veiled but direct appeals to party staffers and regulators. Or at least run ANY ads but telecom brand ads. Sell me bookkeeping software or mattresses, or tell me how proud I should be to drink Canadian macrobrews and eat Ontario cheese. But if I hear one more “this podcast was brought to you by digital connectivity, that’s why Telus cares about Indigenous communities” placement I’m either going to scream, take this podcast out of my regular rotation, or both, I just can’t take it.

prkanderson ,

Like listening to deep cuts from your favorite band

I love this wide ranging podcast about music, politics, and culture. Herle is smart and funny, and he sets the table for his guests to roll deep on storytelling and sharing their insights. It’s like listening to a playlist of deep cuts from your favorite band. Its at once familiar and also brings surprising new depths to things you thought you already knew.

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