The Hold Room

Airport Consultants Council

Join us in The Hold Room, a bi-monthly podcast brought to you by the Airport Consultants Council! The Hold Room will explore the latest trends in airport development and passenger facilitation both here in the U.S. and around the world. Conversational, informative, and sometimes irreverent, expect unique insights from ACC leaders, members, airports, and industry experts as we breakdown trends directly affecting airport development, including: the future of passenger facilitation; airline industry prognosis; airport construction practices; and legislative and regulatory updates. We will also explore the issues affecting your company, including increasing diversity in the industry, financial trends and challenges, and recruiting, developing and retaining employees, just to name a few. Don’t miss this new opportunity to engage with ACC - you never know who you might run into while hanging out in The Hold Room!

  1. 04/25/2024

    Season 2, Episode 23: Bathroom Compilation

    Today in the Hold Room we get to hear all of the wonderful responses throughout Seasons 1 and 2 to “What is your favorite airport bathroom?” We learned very early on that the bathroom experience makes a big difference in the overall passenger experience of an airport. Some of the responses we heard repeatedly and some responses are unique and specific to one airport. We hope you enjoy this light-hearted and fun last episode of Season 2 of The Hold Room. The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 23 – Bathroom Compilation Transcript   [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura C.: This episode is part of the passenger experience series hosted by ACC's Terminal and Facilities Committee. In this series, we are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics such as the U.S. population aging and becoming more multicultural, new technologies, labor and supply chain shortages, and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room.   [Interview] Laura C.: Bathroom. Restroom. Water Closet. Washroom. Loo. Lavatory. Potty. John. Whatever you call it, these facilities serve one of our most basic human needs. Perhaps it is no surprise, then, that they are integral to the airport passenger experience. In this special compilation episode, we asked all our friends who joined us on this previous season of The Hold Room one simple question: What is your favorite airport bathroom? Everyone had something to say, whether they were shouting out a specific airport’s bathrooms, or they were describing features of what their favorite bathroom would be. Listen ahead and find out if your home airport received a shoutout. Laura C.: Anita Cobb at Mead and Hunt. Laura C.: Do you have a favorite bathroom? Like, where’s your favorite airport bathroom? Anita Cobb: Oh my gosh, thank you for asking me this because now is my time to shine. My favorite bathroom in the continental United States is Dallas Fort Worth. They have the best bathrooms ever because they have tush lights. Tush lights are the smartest thing in the world! I want every business everywhere to have tush lights. It only makes sense to see that somebody's occupying a stall by a big red light so that you don't have to bend over at the waist and make your hair touch the ground just to be able to see who's in the bathroom. And I think their doors go all the way to the floor so you don't have to be weird about it too. And then I also love the fact that they have the maps, and then it shows you how many people are in the bathroom, how close is the nearest bathroom—best bathrooms ever! I love it. I cannot advocate for tush lights anymore than I can for their use at the Dallas Fort Worth Airport. I absolutely love that. Laura C.: Anthony Barnes at ADK Consulting and Executive Search. Max V.: Something that we've been asking all of our guests: what is your favorite airport bathroom and tell us why. Anthony Barnes: That's a very funny question. I actually do not have a favorite airport bathroom. I actually do not remember a lot of airport bathrooms because I'm usually running in and running out before getting on a plane. But what I find pleasure in are clean facilities, making sure that it's stocked with supplies, the hand dryer works, making sure that there's adequate space in the stalls and getting throughout the restroom. I've been to some restrooms where it's been a little small. But, you know, just making sure that it's adequate space, and then easy navigation in and out—that I'm not running into someone as they're coming out. And you know, all of that. So, easy navigation. Laura C.: Angela Berry-Roberson at the U.S. Department of Transportation. Laura C.: What is your favorite bathroom? Angela Berry-Roberson: You

  2. 04/11/2024

    Season 2 Episode 22: Michael Lindsey and Brandon Thrasher

    Today in the Hold Room we are talking to Michael Lindsey and Brandon Thrasher of HLB about equity in lighting and what an impact lighting can have on the passenger experience. What we learn is that it’s not just the lighting itself that can influence a person’s emotions in a space, but its impacts on the surrounding spaces, backgrounds, textures, and the interplay of natural lighting and electric/artificial lighting. Please join is to hear more about what considerations and questions are important throughout the design process to maximize the passenger experience and provide equity in lighting. The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 22 – Michael Lindsey and Brandon Thrasher Transcript [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the passenger experience headers hosted by ACC's Terminal and Facilities Committee in this series. We are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics such as the US population, aging and becoming more multicultural, new technologies, labor, and supply chain. Shortages and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room.   [Interview] Carrie Wojcik: Welcome back to the Hold Room, everyone. We're really excited to have Michael Lindsey and Brandon Thrasher with us from HLB. I think it would be really great to kick off this interview by having you both introduce yourself. Michael Lindsey: Appreciate that. I'll jump in first. So again, my name is Michael Lindsey and I'm an associate principal with HLB lighting design. I actually began my journey in the lighting design field about 17 years ago as an intern for our Los Angeles office and I was lucky enough to join the staff full time and haven't looked back since. In 2016, I returned home to Colorado. It's where I grew up and originally from and spearheaded the opening of our Denver office. So, it was a geographic expansion for our firm and it started with just me and one other individual. And I think now we're at about 18 individuals here in the office. So, something I'm really proud about and, you know, really the beauty of what our industry of lighting design and our firm offer is this variety of project type and market sector. So, in my 17 years now in the industry I've really worked on every different type of project out there, whether it's a small and intimate kind of 600 square foot elevator lobby or a million square foot aviation terminal. As it relates to the goals that I have within industry, really top of mind to me is education. Education about what it is that we do as a lighting design professional. Ahead of my time were really true pioneers in our industry who helped establish the foundation of our profession. And I'm lucky enough to be standing here today because of that. But the reality is that our work isn't done myself and my other industry colleagues are always looking to educate and let people know what it is we do and the value we bring to the environment. We are always striving to have lighting design with a seat at the table a little bit about me, I'll hand it over to you, Brandon. Brandon Thrasher: Yeah. Thanks, Michael. I'm Brandon Thrasher. I'm a senior principal with HLB and I'm the managing principal of our San Francisco office. My journey kicked off a little bit differently. I started off in theatrical lighting design and I really dove into crafting designs for live events and museum work when I first started. But life takes its twists and I gradually got pulled into the architectural aspect of the field and I've really been hooked ever since. I also had a stent at Henderson Engineers and during my time there I took on the role of the Director for their architectural lighting group. It was kind of interesting to me because I didn't come from an enginee

  3. 03/28/2024

    Season 2, Episode 21: Paul Martin

    Today in the Hold Room Laura and Carrie talk with Director of Transit at Dimensional Innovations Paul Martin. Dimensional Innovations specializes in creating immersive experiences and tackling facility specific problems. Laura and Carrie dive deep on the simulation flight Dimensional Innovations provides for MCI – Kansas City International Airport to accommodate first time passengers and those who have a fear of flying. Please join us to learn more about simulations and experiences that provide “Positive Distractions” for passengers.  TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the Passenger Experience series hosted by ACC’s Terminal and Facilities Committee. In this series, we are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics (such as the U.S. population aging and becoming more multi-cultural), new technologies, labor, and supply chain shortages, and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room! [Intro Music End] Carrie: Thanks for joining us back again in The Hold Room. We're really excited to have with us today Paul Martin. Paul is with Dimensional Innovations, and, Paul, we would really like for you to just start off this interview by introducing yourself. Paul: Thanks for having me. We're really excited to take part in this broader discussion. We're [Dimensional Innovations (or DI)] a 30-year-old firm, very well established in many other markets. Aviation is actually something of a recent focus for us [DI]. My name is Paul Martin and I am the Director of Transit. The Transit Practice within Dimensional Innovations. Traditionally, that has meant more like bus shelters, kind of a land-based transit. DI as a company, our mission, as we say, it's to liberate people from mediocre experiences. Our main focus has been professional sports, but everything’s about an experience, right? So, if you're going to an arena or stadium, you know, maybe we've [DI] done the Hall of Fame or the fan experience. For corporations, it might be a welcome center, where we're telling your [the corporation’s] story. We [DI] do a lot of work in the cultural space. When we look at the aviation space, it's very much a natural fit. We [DI] have been making a concerted effort over the last year. It really helps that here in Kansas City we have a brand-new terminal, single terminal, that is just absolutely fantastic. So, we have quite a bit of work in that and that was kind of a springboard to get us [DI] interested in this [aviation] as a market. Laura: Let's dive a little bit deeper into something. Can you discuss a challenge or solution relating to aviation related topics or passenger experience? Paul: Sure, and for us [DI], it is all about that experience, and MCI (Kansas City International Airport) is the perfect example. Personally, I'm sure some of your listeners had to go through Kansas City or may be based here. You know, we went through Kansas City you've got this new airport that SOM designed, just brilliant, and DI was really fortunate to play a pretty significant role in this passenger experience, and it takes a lot of different forms. Right from the start, you enter into the single terminal. At the ticket counter, it's very standard, you've got the big LED wall behind you, that [the LED wall] was one of our [DI’s] scopes. And you know, in the background, what's happening in terms of managing the graphics, the content we have developed, our [DI’s] own content management system that was really developed working directly with the airport.  I was touring it [MCI Airport] with Justin Myers Deputy Director out there. At one point he just pulled it [graphic controls] up on his phone and said, “Hey, watch this!” – and he could change the background, the content, because we [DI] had built that application up for him including working with the various airlines on the content itself. Really, it's all about future capabilities, flexibility, you know, we've got about 300 feet of screen back there, and we [DI] built in the capability to do a complete takeover, do animations, anything they may want to do in the future, making sure that the back end can handle that. That's [interactive graphic displays] largely invisible to the customer. It just looks nice. Working with the architect and the design team. If you're going between concourses, worked with The City [Kansas City] and the Airport Authority on some storytelling. They [the Airport Authority] knew when they created this new facility that they wanted to retain some history, tell the story of aviation in Kansas City. Built out a series of kiosks that have information boards and then also embedded video, you know, so the whole experience is about “Through the Ages,” what aviation has meant to Kansas City. There was a big push to bring out local flavor. Sot, just these little hidden gems kind of sprinkled throughout that give a better experience to the customers. Laura: Oh, that's neat. I remember going through Kansas City, but I have a vague recollection of leaving security to go meet with somebody and then having to go back to security to get in. Is it like a long, elongated terminal, I think, right? Paul:  Well, the old one, yeah, it was a horseshoe. There were three different terminals, and it was designed in the in the early 70s. There was circle parking. The whole idea was you could drive your car and park and in 5 minutes be at your gate. And it [the old design] did work that way Pre-9/11, but once you throw security into it, it's completely dispersed. So, you have so many gates there's no central location where you can handle that [security]. Physically, as a facility, it could not accommodate that. Laura: So how did you accommodate them? It sounds like a big challenge as part of the project. How were you working through that? Paul: We built a completely new terminal, so we demolished it. Laura: Nice. Paul: It was the only solution, honestly. So, from an architecture perspective, the old terminal was completely unworkable. There was a renovation, probably 12, maybe 15 years ago, doing work in the concourses, upgrading some facilities a bit with some better finishes in a way. In fact, some of the terrazzo floor that was put into the old terminal during the renovation was salvaged and used into the new one [new terminal]. It was a really nice touch. Laura: That's awesome. So as part of this project, I'm sure one of our [ACC, The Hold Room] key initiatives is talking more about diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility (DEIA), and so, I was curious how that played into the design of the new terminal and what kind of things that you implemented or thought of and incorporated as part of this? Paul: Absolutely central, there was a mandate established by the city [Kansas City] that said we will be the most inclusive airport in the country, if not the world. So, right from the start, this was established before there was a design. So, everything on the design side was meant to cater to that. In terms of our [DI’s] involvement, we [DI] were really fortunate there was a thought about, “OK, how do you accommodate passengers that have anxiety about flying, first time flyers, maybe, people with dementia, or on the spectrum, anybody that, you know, has this anxiety or fear [of flying]. The thought was to create a simulation room, you know, really simulate the entire experience. And that [simulation experience] starts with getting a ticket, boarding a plane, going through a simulated flight. So, this [simulation project] is a really exciting opportunity for us [DI], because that's very much what we do and we can infuse technology and it is truly about the experience. This is super fun working directly with the Airport Authority. You know, there are a lot of constraints obviously, just physically, what does this mean, in terms of what are you physically putting into the space. So, this is, if on the secure side of the terminal, it's something [the simulation experience] that you have to reserve just as a general public passenger. You can't just walk into this [the simulation]. It's very targeted to specific audiences. There's specific outreach for that. The way that we went about it is that “OK, we want to literally be having, you know, have the have the most literal experience you can.” That meant actually purchasing a chunk of a Fuselage Airbus A321. So, in our [DI’s] shop, we have that chunk of the plane, proceeded to do the entire build out. As an experience, you would make a reservation [for the simulation]. Somebody from the airport will greet you in the security line, walk you through security, go into this specific simulation room. We took an actual ticket kiosk. You punch in your code, and it- [the kiosk] spits out physical ticket. You then go to a scanner on the wall, scan your ticket, it shows your name, and get a green light and the door opens and you walk through. In reality, it's [simulation jet bridge] just a hallway, but with graphics, we have simulated that passage through the jet bridge to where you are boarding on the jet. Something that we identified, and I will say this, you know, there's a lot of research that goes into this, not just working with Airport Authority, but with healthcare professionals. As well in terms of thinking about what are things that can assist a situation like this. So, something was that was identified, was typically when you're taking that step onto the plane itself from the jet bridge, there's a little gap. You know, everybody sees it [the gap between the jet bride and plane], and most people don't think anything about it, but for some people, that's very problematic. So, we actually did simulate that gap. So, yo

  4. 03/14/2024

    Season 2 Episode 20: Live Interviews from AAAE Annual Conference

    Hello from the American Association of Airport Executives conference in Denver, Colorado. Janelle Aslam conducted live interviews at the conference in June 2023 and we are excited to hear from Tommy Bibb, Aviation Consultant and prior AVP Operations and Maintenance at Nashville Airport Authority; Marco Toscano, Director of Customer Experience at Denver International Airport; and Joseph Kennedy, Business Development Manager at Smiths Detection. The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 20 – Tommy Bibb, Marco Toscano, and Joseph Kenney Transcript [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: Hello from the American Association of Airport Executives conference in Denver, Colorado. Janelle Aslam conducted live interviews at the conference in June 2023 and we are excited to hear from Tommy Bibb, Aviation Consultant and prior AVP Operations and Maintenance at Nashville Airport Authority; Marco Toscano, Director of Customer Experience at Denver International Airport; and Joseph Kennedy, Business Development Manager at Smiths Detection.   [Interview] Janelle Aslam: Hi Tom. So nice to have you here on The Hold Room podcast. You are an industry veteran. I'd love to know about your background 1st and then also your perspective on customer experience and what we can do to improve it. Tommy (Tom) Bibb: Thanks, Janelle. It's a pleasure to be with you. Background, I spent just over 32 years with the airport in Nashville. And had a variety of departments and functions under my purview over that time. Operations and maintenance certainly were a big part of that 22 of those 32 years. But passenger experience is critical. You know, we were an airport in active growth mode and you're an airport first, a construction site 2nd and maintaining that positive experience is critical. We had a lot of opportunities to work on that both in the building, in front of the building, and the behind the building and by that I mean terminal, landside, and airside. So we tried to work on that every day actually. Janelle: That’s great. Can you tell me about one of the examples you think is really like best in class in terms of something you implemented to improve passenger experience? Tom: Yeah, I'll take a what's probably an easy one. And that's restroom modernization of restrooms, making them more comfortable and more bright. Easy in and out, not congested. Trying to get in and out of the facilities, just bringing up refresh with new fixtures, more modern three in one sinks with soap, water drying capabilities. But restrooms are a big factor in the passenger experience. Restrooms and parking will get you in trouble quickly. We put a lot of emphasis on restrooms, parking accessibility, walking distance and things like that, but those are a couple of easy examples on the things that we focused on to try to not only maintain but greatly improve the passenger experience. Janelle: Great. So how did you actually listen to your customers? How did you gather feedback from them to make sure that you were moving the needle and improving that experience for them? Tom: Like most airports, you know, do surveys and things like that. But we paid really close attention to our website and comments that came in and we kind of had a policy: three business days to get a response unless it was something really significant. And then you still get a response and. Follow up with a more detailed answer if that's what was called for. But got a lot of feedback that way. Being in the capital and a lot of state legislature there, we got a lot of feedback from the community and just through informal channels we always took that stuff very seriously and took it to heart and tried to take it and use it and, and make things better. Janelle: Excellent. Can you talk to me a little bit about diversity, equity, and inclusion and how that implemented into your past experience? Tom: The airport should reflect the community that it resides in. Everybody has a little bit different opinion of what the positive passenger experience should be. So, we did a lot of work outreach with various organizations and things of that nature to understand what various groups to make sure that those needs were being met and one that I'm particularly proud of, maybe more than anything in my entire career there, was/fell into the world of ADA with adult changing tables in some of our family restrooms because it opens up the door for so many more people to travel. That prior to that air travel would have been off the table simply not an option. And it was so well received when we did that on the personal level that was something I felt really, really good about. Janelle: Nice. That's awesome. How did you communicate these change efforts to? Tom: You know, a lot of outreach on social media. We had a staff that took care of that for us and pushed those messages out. We actually had a lighting system on one of our new garages and we could do the lights to reflect certain things. Maybe if it was the Heart Association week or breast Cancer week or whatever it happened to be. But we use social media a lot and we use some of the amenities we had built into our new facilities to help push those messages. We did some sign language. At times we have live music in building and we would have somebody come and sign the words along with the music. And that was kind of neat because that really improve that experience for people that had that impairment. Janelle: That's great. Tom: So, we tried social media. A lot of things, just some of the in-house amenities that we have we could take advantage of it. Janelle: Guys, what about employment? Did you do anything from a DEI element to make sure that your employment also modeled the residential structure? Tom: Yeah, we did a good job. Basically, it's kind of started with the leadership team to make sure the leadership team again reflected the community and being sensitive to how we approached different groups and create opportunities for success not only for the person but for the organization as well. And I can see that although I've retired from the airport. You can see that throughout the organization it's a very diverse leadership team and then all the way through the organization as a whole. Janelle: So, as we end this interview and I'm really appreciative of all of your insights here, but I would love to know as you look to the future, what are you most excited about in terms of the new developments to really improve customer experience? Tom: Some of the things I think are really moving the needle on passenger experience are better concessions and things of that nature. Gate delivery on concessions at some of the larger airports because we tend to get through security and we go from point A to point B, we get to our gate and a lot of times we walk by things because we just want to get where we know we need to be. But good concessions and having the concessions reflect national options as well as local music and entertainment in the buildings. You see that a lot now. That was all over our facility and you see it in many places. I think there's just a lot more awareness. People are in the terminal longer now than they used to be good. Good parking facilities where there's walking distances or short transportation. There's a number of things, I think airports, are doing a lot better. You know it's kind of a drop off to take off mentality. Parking all the way to your gate and making that experience everything it can be all the way through. Janelle: Excellent. Well, Tom, I look forward to hearing more insights from you in the future. Thank you so much for your time. Tom: Well, you're welcome. Thank you. Janelle: Marco, I am so happy that you're here to talk with us at the Hold Room. So, tell me a little bit about what you do at Denver. Marco Toscano: Thank you for having me. Yeah. I’m the director of customer experience. So, within my realm of responsibilities are voice of the customer, customer research data, customer metrics, documentation, as well as looking over the customer journey map and how our customers interact with our report and their entire journey from Pena Blvd. all the way over to their flight. And what does that mean of them? Trying to create a good experience for them as they go through the process. Janelle: Wow, that's amazing. So how often do you actually connect with your passengers to really get the voice of what they're looking for from an experience standpoint? Marco: We capture customer voice through several different ways. We actually provide all social media comments about the airport. All of that is filtered and aggregated through our customer relations center. So, every comment, every post is categorized by subject matter, whether it's an inquiry complement, complaint, and then we actually categorize that further by the subject of what the customer was talking about. And then we capture verbatim as well, but then that gets put into a system where we can analyze the data at the end of the day and look at what are the top complaints for the day, for the week, for the month. How can we make those better? How can we do for identifying trends that we're seeing based off of customer voice you can try to get ahead of those in the future. Not only social media, we also have a call center. The same thing happens if you were to call in. Or chat with us through our website. As well as we have surveys, we partner with ACI and AAAE to the RSQ survey. So, we have several different ways to try to capture what customers are experiencing. Janelle: That's great. And what do you see in terms of the latest trends of what your passengers are asking you for? Marco: We're seeing a trend that has certainly started in COVID

  5. 02/29/2024

    Season 2 Episode 19: 2024 Symposium Planning

    What does a Chair/Vice Chair for the 2024 Symposium do? Come and find out from Carrie Shaeffer, Chris Spaulding, and Asia Johnson. In addition to the logistics behind how a conference is organized, learn more about the two plenary sessions of the 2024 Symposium including Artificial Intelligence and Vertical Takeoff and Landing at airports and how they relate to two upcoming Olympics! The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 19 – Carrie Shaeffer, Chris Spaulding, and Asia Johnson Transcript [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the passenger experience headers hosted by ACC's Terminal and Facilities Committee in this series. We are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics such as the U.S. population, aging and becoming more multicultural, new technologies, labor, and supply chain. Shortages and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room.   [Interview] Carrie Wojcik: Well, thank you everyone for joining us again in the Hold Room. I'm Carrie, Mike Ambrosio: Hi, I'm Mike. Carrie W: And we are joined by different individuals from ACC who will be involved with hosting the plenary sessions. So, I have Carrie Shaeffer from Swinnerton, Chris Spaulding from Jacobson Daniels as well as Asia Johnson from Jacobsen Daniel. So, thank you so much for joining us today. If each of you could just quickly say your name, your role, and introduce yourself so our listeners know who you are. Carrie Shaeffer: Yeah, hi. Thanks for having us. I'm Carrie Shaeffer with Swinnerton and I am chairing the planning committee for the upcoming Symposium. Super excited to be with you all today. Chris Spaulding: My name is Chris Spaulding as Carrie mentioned. Thank you for having me as well. I serve as the vice chair for the Symposium Planning Committee and work as a senior consultant for Jacobsen Daniels based in Chicago. Go Cubs. Asia Johnson: I'm Asia, I'm with Jacobsen Daniels and I am supporting Chris in his role as Vice chair, and so I'm the vice chair YP. Carrie W: Awesome. Thanks everyone. Mike: If you don't mind. Could you kind of tell us a little bit more about what your sessions are about and what you're excited about them? Carrie S: Yeah, I'd be glad to start with that. Thanks, Mike. This is Carrie Shaeffer again. So, as the kind of the chair and vice chair, one of the biggest roles and exciting roles of helping the planning committee bring the Symposium together is that we had a bringing together the plenary sessions for day one and day two. So, the one that I am pulling together right now, it’s pretty cool. It was inspired by one of the submissions of the 230 submissions we got for topics for the upcoming Symposium and we are looking at some applications of the for the Paris Olympics and then looking forward visioning for the LAX Olympics at 2028. We're to hear from both of those planning groups on some emerging technologies that they are using and for managing the incredibly complex logistics of all of those people: Athletes, judges here and people coming to watch and VIP's and just multiple airports in the area and then multiple venues. So, I'm really excited to hear from both of those and compare and contrast what the, what they're thinking about, how they going to solve those big puzzles. Mike: Yeah, very interesting. You know, it's something that you don't necessarily think about and think of the Olympics and it's just cool to see how our industry is starting to tackle those challenges. Carrie S: Absolutely. It was inspired by the group that is, they're going to do certain pilot program of using VTOL in the Paris area to solve some of their logistics issues, so I'm looking forward to it. Chris: Yeah, being part of the LA

  6. 02/21/2024

    Season 2 Episode 18: 2024 Symposium Program Manager

    What does a Program Manager for the 2024 Symposium do? Come and find out from James Gerrald and Bailey Bulls, as they help organize one of aviation’s biggest conferences. Also tune in to find out what is new this year and recommendations and strategies of what a first-time Symposium attendee can do to maximize the experience. The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 18 – James Gerrald and Bailey Bills Transcript [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the passenger experience headers hosted by ACC's Terminal and Facilities Committee in this series. We are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics such as the U.S. population, aging and becoming more multicultural, new technologies, labor, and supply chain. Shortages and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room.   [Interview] Laura: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Hold Room. I'm Laura. Today, we have Bailey and James here, who are the Program Manager and the young professional Program Manager. So, James and Bailey, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourselves?   Bailey Bulls: I'm Bailey Bulls, the project manager for Swinerton Builders, based out of our Dallas office, and I am, as you say, Laura, the YP Program Manager for the 2024 Symposium. I'm really excited to be here. So, thanks for having us.   James Gerrald: James Gerrald, I'm with Jacobs Solutions out of our Philadelphia office at PHL and working at PHL Airport as a program advisor. This is actually my third year for the Symposium, representing the Symposium, and so very excited to come back. It's always a, always a treat. And yeah, and excited to work with Bailey and you all as well.   Laura: Great. So, for everyone who doesn't know what a program manager does at a conference, can you tell us a little bit more about what your role represents and what you're doing to get the conference in great shape?   James: Sure. A program manager essentially is the ones that are the liaisons between the management team or the executive team/committee for the symposium and the representatives for each track session. So that's the moderators, that's the track hosts, the speakers. So, we're kind of the liaison. Between the two. And so, our responsibilities include ensuring that all the session information is populated, ensuring that the speakers are populated, making sure we have all the headshots, bios, everything that's needed for our track host speakers, moderators, and then passing that information on to ACC/AAAE so they can fulfill their documentation requirements that they need for the conference. We're kind of that go between. You can think of us as like a jack of all trades, everything under the sun. So, if it's anything from, Hey, can you just tap the speaker's shoulders to a shoulder to get some information on this? Or can we get a little bit of information on that? Or can we change this? We're kind of where that link between those individuals to get that information. And make changes if necessary and essentially make the executive committee look good.   Bailey: You summed it up perfectly, James. I just view it as more of administrative oversight. So really all the hard work the track hosts are putting in. making sure that we have a really diverse selection of moderators and panelists to just fine tuning and executing the workshops and the just the development that goes into that.   James: Absolutely.   Laura: Very nice. I know that's much needed a big conference like the Symposium. What are you most excited about for the conference?   Bailey: So this will be my first Symposium. So I think first and foremost, I'm just really excited to actually get to meet our

  7. 02/12/2024

    Season 2, Episode 17: Symposium PM/CM Track

    Learn about what interesting subject matters will be covered in the 2024 Symposium Project Management (PM) and Construction Management (CM) Track. Track hosts Melvin Price, Senior Associate Principal ORAT Practice Lead at Jacobs, and Annabelle Tran, Project Manager at Jacobs, share about their backgrounds in PM/CM and what they are looking to share and takeaway from Symposium. Melvin and Annabelle share with Max and Carrie how they are diving deep into ORAT, GMP, and the Seller’s Market during Symposium. If you want to learn (or a refresher!) on these terms and abbreviations, give this episode a listen and check out the PM/CM Track at Symposium. The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 17 Transcript   [Intro Music]   TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the Passenger Experience series hosted by ACC’s Terminal and Facilities Committee. In this series, we are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics (such as the U.S. population aging and becoming more multi-cultural), new technologies, labor, and supply chain shortages, and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room! [Intro Music End] Carrie Wojcik: Welcome back to the Hold Room. Hi, I'm Carrie. Max Vale: Hi, I'm Max. Carrie: And we are joined today with Annabelle and Melvin from Jacobs. They're going to take time to introduce themselves and their roles. Melvin Price: Melvin Price, I’m with Jacobs. I helped to lead our practice. I have been in aviation for the past 24 years. My degree is in electrical engineering. I have an MBA. And I have worked on projects all over the United States and some parts of the world. I have been a member of ACC since I became a consultant in 2018. Happy to be here. I have presented at ACC and AAAE Construction Symposium a couple of times. This is my first time as a track host, but none of this would be possible without my colleague Ms. Annabelle Tran. Annabelle Tran: Hi everyone! I'm Annabelle Tran. I've been with Jacobs for about two years now. I was working for our Denver office as a project architect and then transferred over to LAWA [Los Angeles World Airports] for PM/CM for wayfinding. I don’t have any experience with ACC, but since Melvin has brought me on, it's been quite a ride and I'm learning a lot about what this organization is and very excited to see where we go from here. A little bit about me, I. We have about 10 years of airport experience on airport campus facilities, both domestic and international. The different project types I've done include airport terminal renovations, expansions, airline clubs, signage, wayfinding, and tenant and hold room interior outfit. Since I have been working as an aviation professional, I haven't gone to any symposiums or been on any committees, so this is all brand new to me and it's been quite interesting so far. Max: To educate some of our listeners who may not be familiar with some of the terminology we say like PM/CM, can you take just a brief moment to talk about what those different abbreviations stand for? Melvin: What they mean? Yeah, so I will tackle ORAT, and interestingly enough as an industry, ORAT means a lot of different things. I just got back from Washington DC, and I was selected for an airport cooperative research program panel specifically on ORAT. We have determined what the letters and ORAT now mean for the industry. It [ORAT] means “Operational Readiness Activation and Transition”. It is the art and science that take a static construction project and bring it to life and it [ORAT] ensures opening day success for that facility and its stakeholders. PM/CM is “project management, construction management,” essentially it is the team of people that are responsible for the sco

  8. 01/29/2024

    Season 2 Episode 16: Melissa Vasher and Shawn Gibbs

    The 2024 Symposium Planning Track hosts talk about their sessions, including advanced air mobility and electric aircraft, capital and facility planning, runways to real estate, Environmental Hot Topics, which is always well attended, and moving to a greener future. There are a lot of changes happening in planning and environmental that we get to hear about! The Hold Room, Season 2 Episode 16 – Melissa Vasher and Shawn Gibbs Transcript   [Introduction] TJ: Welcome to The Hold Room with ACC: a quick update on all things relating to airport development as well as the Airport Consultants Council. Laura Canham: This episode is part of the passenger experience headers hosted by ACC's Terminal and Facilities Committee in this series. We are collecting the experiences and perspectives about the future of passenger travel, including changing demographics such as the U.S. population, aging and becoming more multicultural, new technologies, labor, and supply chain. Shortages and what the future may have in store. Thank you for joining us in the Hold Room.   [Interview] Max Vale: Hi, I'm Max. Laura: And I'm Laura. Max: And we are here today with Melissa Vasher and Shawn Gibbs to talk about the Planning Track that will be held at the 2024 AAAE/ACC Planning, Design, and Construction Symposium. This conference will be in Salt Lake City on March 5th through 7th, 2024. So, Melissa and Shawn, could you tell us a little bit about yourselves and your role in putting on this track. Melissa Vasher: I'm Melissa Vasher. I'm with Hanson Professional Services on the track host for the planning sessions at the Symposium. I've been with Hanson for almost 12 years in airports, probably 15 to 17 years, so I'm really excited to take on this role in planning and developing the content for this event. It's been an exciting event in the past and we're looking forward to more of that coming up in March. Shawn Gibbs: I am Shawn Gibbs, and I'm also with Hanson Professional Services. I've been with them in the airports world for about 12 years and my role is the young professional to help support Melissa getting moderators, working with speakers, developing this sessions. So really looking forward to it. I have not been to Symposium yet, so pretty excited about it. Laura: Oh, that's awesome. You have a wonderful first time. From personal experience, it's it's a great, great conference. So, I guess the next thing is tell us a little bit about the content of your sessions. You'll have 5 sessions. And so I'd love to hear a little bit more about that. Melissa: I guess we'll kind of tag team it here as we've been based on kind of our strengths as professionals in the business. The first session, probably the one we're most excited about and everybody hears about is advanced air mobility and electric aircraft and how is your airport getting ready for this. Our session is going to be really focused on kind of the planning and how to bring these electric airplanes and this technology into your airport and how to actually get it off the ground. You know, how do you get it through master planning or ALP process. How do you work with the local stakeholders. How do you decide what's the best fit for your facility at this time. It's gonna really delve deep into that. There's a lot going on with the Paris Olympics. I saw in New York City just had Jobe up there for test runs and I know Florida and Georgia have been doing it as well. So, it's going to be really timely to have this planning information out there. How do we get it through the process and actually get it operational. Our second session is all that airport capital and facility planning. Where do we come up with the projects to put on our airport capital improvement plans? How do we figure out how to fund these? We look to have some airports that have taken different tactics and looks at what they need. Maybe different sized programs, whether it's a big

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