The Impactful Conversations Effect Podcast

Winy Bernard Bertin

The Impactful Conversations Effect Podcast Change rarely starts with a brilliant idea. More often, it starts in conversation. The Impactful Conversations Effect is a podcast about the moments that move us forward—real conversations that shift how we see ourselves, what we want, or what comes next. Hosted by Winy Bernard Bertin and Ashley Rudolph, we sit down with leaders, creatives, and entrepreneurs to unpack the conversations that have shaped their careers. Sometimes we ask about the exact moment everything shifted. Other times, just being in dialogue leads to new insight. This season, we’re joined by:     •    Babba Rivera, CEO of Ceremonia     •    Lissy Alden, CEO of Myndy     •    Marine Tanguy, CEO of MTArt     •    Allison Stadd, SVP at Shipt     •    Cathie Urushibata, Creative Director at Shake Shack     •    Rachel Kourakos, Executive Coach     •    Delphine Gardère, CEO of Rum Barbancourt Each episode feels like chatting over tea with a friend—warm, thoughtful, and often exactly what you didn’t know you needed. deuxcreative.substack.com

  1. 06/03/2025

    The Power of the Collective: Lessons from PSG’s Champions League Win

    My friend Delphine is one of the most strategic and thoughtful leaders I know. We're both passionate PSG supporters, and in between sharing celebratory memes, we spoke about PSG’s victory over Inter Milan and the deeper significance behind it. Delphine has always believed in the power of working together to achieve a common goal. She leads a team of over 700 employees who operate with a shared vision, producing a world-class product that’s exported globally. The results speak for themselves and we’ll dive into that soon, as Delphine is the final guest this season on The Impactful Conversations Effect Podcast. But back to PSG. Their historic Champions League win wasn’t just about how they defeated Inter Milan, it was about how Luis Enrique built a team and a mindset grounded in the power of the collective. He moved away from the era of relying on star players (yes, I’m looking at you, Mbappé) and instead instilled a culture of patience, discipline, shared responsibility, and laser focus. PSG’s triumph on Saturday wasn’t just about scoring goals, it was about growth. Under Luis Enrique, PSG didn’t just play; they operated as one. The old model at PSG was built around star players like Neymar and Mbappé. But when teams are structured around a single person, there’s a ceiling to what can be achieved. Egos have to be managed because that individual is often seen as carrying the weight of the team. It creates imbalance, sidelining other valuable contributors who also have something meaningful to offer. It also places enormous pressure on the so-called star to constantly perform, which is unrealistic—no one can sustain success alone. This dynamic is not limited to sports. It mirrors what we often see in businesses and startups that rely heavily on one key player to drive everything forward. The question then becomes: what happens when that person loses motivation or decides to step away? Luis Enrique’s philosophy was clear: no one is above the team. Success came through shared responsibility, tactical cohesion, and trust in the system. Every role player had a part to play, and each contribution mattered. In business, the same principle applies. When leaders stop trying to be the star and instead focus on building strong systems and empowering their team, real and sustainable success follows. Here are my takeaways from this win: Lesson 1: Build Systems, Not IdolsGreat teams are not built around a single star. You’re not hiring heroes, you’re building a machine where every part has a purpose. Sustainable success comes from creating systems that function with or without any one individual. Lesson 2: Clarity of Roles Creates Freedom to PerformAt PSG, every player understood their role. That clarity allowed them to move with confidence and purpose. In business, the same applies. When people know exactly what is expected of them, they’re empowered to execute, collaborate, and innovate. Lesson 3: Humility WinsA humble team, one that respects each other’s strengths and is aligned around a common goal, will always outperform a group of high-performers who can’t work together. Ego-free environments make space for growth, trust, and impact. Lesson 4: Celebrate the AssistNot every win comes from the person who scores. Behind every goal is a chain of effort. In business, we often reward sales or high-visibility outcomes, but lasting cultures recognise and celebrate collaboration, support, and behind-the-scenes contributions. As I was thinking through and researching for this post this morning, and genuinely excited to write it, I came across something PSG’s Ousmane Dembélé said before their Champions League win. When asked if he hoped to win the coveted Ballon d'Or, he responded, "Instead of thinking about myself, I’m going to think about the team." He shared that when the coach spoke to him, he told him to take on more responsibility and set an example for the younger players. Dembélé continued, "The important thing is the collective, not individual titles. We’ve never won the Champions League. It’s more important for me to think of the team." That mindset captures the essence of real leadership: putting the group first, leading by example, and prioritising collective success over individual recognition. Bisous, Winy What I’m listening to: If you haven’t listened to Cathie Urushibata’s episode on The Impactful Conversations Effect podcast yet, you’re missing out. Cathie shares what it means to lead with empathy while managing creative teams, and how her own evolution as a creative professional helped shape her leadership style. From her journey to Shake Shack to her thoughts on mentorship, this episode is full of insight for anyone building something with heart and intention. Art that is inspiring my creativity: Discovered through my friend Roderick, Brodie Neill’s work is a masterclass in design that blends form, function and sculpture. His limited-edition furniture pieces are striking, thoughtful, and undeniably beautiful, each one feels like it belongs in a gallery as much as in a home. I’ve been especially obsessed with his chairs lately. I think I need one, like, yesterday. As always, if you need strategic advice pertaining to Branding, Communications, Digital strategy, or Marketing, or if you want to chat about a new project—or just say hi!—our boutique agency, Deux Creative, is here to help! Thanks for reading La Newsletter by Winy Bernard Bertin! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deuxcreative.substack.com

    5 min
  2. 05/06/2025

    Don’t Assume Brand Loyalty, Build It!

    These days, customers, myself included, aren’t as brand-loyal as we once were. I used to be someone who had to buy a specific product from a specific brand, no exceptions. But that mindset has shifted. Today, people are drawn to products that speak to them personally, offer meaningful value, or provide exclusive access or perks. Brand loyalty, once a given, is now fragile, always up for negotiation. In 2025, even the most established brands must continuously earn their customers’ trust and commitment. In today’s uncertain economic and social climate, brand loyalty is no longer guaranteed by habit or heritage. Customers are empowered by the abundance of choice, peer-driven reviews (hello, TikTok), and a growing demand for transparency. Even legacy brands risk being left behind if the purchase experience feels disconnected or if the brand’s storytelling no longer resonates. Loyalty can’t be assumed, it must be earned through relevance, consistency, and a compelling reason to return. Brand experience plays a significant role in shaping loyalty. I was speaking to a friend recently who, despite requesting an appointment three times at a luxury brand’s Paris boutique, never received a confirmation, barely an acknowledgment that the request had been received. She had been a loyal client of this iconic brand for years, but after a string of disappointing interactions, she decided to take her business elsewhere. Brand experience isn’t just about the product, it’s the entire journey: how you're discovered, how you're remembered, and how you show up across every single touchpoint. Storytelling is a powerful tool for customer retention, not just acquisition. People stay loyal to brands that reflect their values, tell meaningful stories, and offer something they can see themselves in. When done well, storytelling invites customers into a larger narrative, allowing them to feel like participants rather than just consumers. In the end, people don’t stick with a brand for the product alone, they stay because they believe in the story behind it. So, what can brands actually do to build loyalty in 2025? A few things stand out. Subscription models, membership perks, and exclusive product drops are becoming essential tools, not gimmicks, in cultivating a sense of belonging. Rather than relying on price or legacy status, brands need to make customers feel like insiders. Creating a private community, offering VIP access, or giving early access to new products can help lock in loyalty. People buy from people, and they want to feel connected and not just to the brand, but to the people behind it. Showcasing the human side of the business, the makers, the process, the behind-the-scenes decisions which builds trust and relatability. That’s the “it-factor” today: a blend of authentic storytelling, community, and content. And when done right, paid ads shouldn’t be the main attraction, they should amplify the organic moments that make the brand feel real. Loyalty isn’t won by chance, it’s the result of consistent, intentional brand choices that make people feel seen, valued, and part of something bigger. In 2025, the brands that thrive will be the ones that remember: loyalty is earned, not assumed. Bisous, Winy What I’m listening to: If you haven’t listened to our episode with Marine Tanguy of MTArt yet, this is your sign. Marine shares her powerful perspective on public art, representation in the art world, and how storytelling shapes cultural perception. Art that is inspiring my creativity: I recently learned about the Waterloo Center for the Arts in Iowa, which holds the largest public collection of Haitian art in the world. Their commitment to preserving and celebrating Haitian creativity is extraordinary and naturally, it’s a collection that’s close to my heart. The works are vibrant, symbolic, and deeply rooted in culture and storytelling. It’s a beautiful reminder of Haiti’s worldwide artistic legacy, and well worth exploring. As always, if you need strategic advice pertaining to Branding, Communications, Digital strategy, or Marketing, or if you want to chat about a new project—or just say hi!—our boutique agency, Deux Creative, is here to help! Thanks for reading La Newsletter by Winy Bernard Bertin! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deuxcreative.substack.com

    4 min

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The Impactful Conversations Effect Podcast Change rarely starts with a brilliant idea. More often, it starts in conversation. The Impactful Conversations Effect is a podcast about the moments that move us forward—real conversations that shift how we see ourselves, what we want, or what comes next. Hosted by Winy Bernard Bertin and Ashley Rudolph, we sit down with leaders, creatives, and entrepreneurs to unpack the conversations that have shaped their careers. Sometimes we ask about the exact moment everything shifted. Other times, just being in dialogue leads to new insight. This season, we’re joined by:     •    Babba Rivera, CEO of Ceremonia     •    Lissy Alden, CEO of Myndy     •    Marine Tanguy, CEO of MTArt     •    Allison Stadd, SVP at Shipt     •    Cathie Urushibata, Creative Director at Shake Shack     •    Rachel Kourakos, Executive Coach     •    Delphine Gardère, CEO of Rum Barbancourt Each episode feels like chatting over tea with a friend—warm, thoughtful, and often exactly what you didn’t know you needed. deuxcreative.substack.com