The Inner Studio

Natalie Zannoni and Mathew Creedon
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Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness.  Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.  Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out. For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness. 🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens: 👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link

  1. Why Does Life Give You Things After You Stop Chasing Them?

    3D AGO

    Why Does Life Give You Things After You Stop Chasing Them?

    In this episode of Inner Sound Studio (Nat & Mat Podcast) we explore a curious paradox of life: Why do things often arrive only after we stop chasing them? The conversation moves through ideas of detachment, success, suffering, and awareness, and why learning to let go doesn’t mean withdrawing from life — it may actually allow us to participate in it more fully. Mat and Nat also explore the difference between pain and suffering, why developing special abilities or talents doesn’t necessarily mean wisdom, and how awareness changes the way we relate to success, failure, and the things we accumulate along the way. This episode is a reflective conversation about creativity, consciousness, and the strange way life sometimes begins to cooperate when we stop trying to control it. If you enjoy conversations about philosophy, meditation, creativity, and the deeper patterns of life, this episode will resonate. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    39 min
  2. Why We Avoid The Things We Love Most

    MAR 30

    Why We Avoid The Things We Love Most

    Why do we sometimes hold back from the very things we love the most? In this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, Nat and Mat explore a curious pattern in human behaviour — the tendency to avoid putting full effort into the passions that matter most to us. Whether it’s music, creativity, relationships, or personal growth, many people find themselves hesitating at the very moment they care the most. Is it fear of failure? Fear of judgement? Or something deeper within the human psyche? Nat and Mat unpack the subtle ways we protect ourselves from vulnerability, and how this protective instinct can sometimes stop us from fully expressing what we love. This conversation touches on creativity, self-awareness, and the strange ways our minds try to keep us safe — even when it means holding us back. A thoughtful and honest discussion about passion, effort, and learning to move beyond the invisible barriers we place in front of ourselves. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    35 min
  3. The Moment You Stop Comparing Yourself, Everything Changes

    MAR 23

    The Moment You Stop Comparing Yourself, Everything Changes

    Why do we spend so much time comparing ourselves to others? In this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, we explore the quiet habit of comparison and how it can slowly distort the way we see ourselves and our lives. It’s something almost everyone does — measuring our progress, talents, and even our happiness against the people around us. But what if that entire game is unnecessary? During the conversation we reflect on a simple idea: A flower doesn’t compete with the flower next to it… it just blooms. From there the discussion moves into deeper territory — identity, self-perception, and the strange feeling that while our personalities change throughout life, something inside us seems to remain the same. In this episode we talk about: • Why comparison can make us miserable • How the mind creates identity • The difference between who we think we are and who we actually are • Learning to let go of unnecessary competition • Allowing yourself to simply grow in your own way A relaxed conversation about awareness, identity, and the freedom that comes when we stop measuring ourselves against everyone else. Sometimes the healthiest thing we can do is simply be ourselves and bloom in our own time. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    1h 2m

  4. MAR 16

    Putting the Cart Before the Horse (Why Artists Block Their Own Creativity)

    In this episode of Nat & Mat, we explore a common trap many artists fall into: judging their work before it has a chance to grow. Natalie shares a quote from Maya Angelou — “The more you use it, the more you have.” It sparks a conversation about the fear many creative people experience: the feeling that their best work might already be behind them. Mat reflects on how easy it is for artists to sabotage themselves by constantly rejecting their ideas too early. When every new idea is immediately labeled “not good enough,” we unknowingly practice the habit of creating more doubt instead of more art. The conversation explores: Why artists often believe their best work is behind themHow early self-criticism blocks creativityThe surprising power of practicing the right mindsetWhy whatever you practice, you get better atThe importance of letting creativity move before judging the result Using simple metaphors — like steering a car away from a tree when you’re sliding — Mat explains how attention shapes the direction of our creative work. Sometimes the problem isn’t talent. Sometimes we’ve simply put the cart before the horse. Nat & Mat is a series of conversations about creativity, awareness, music, and the strange experience of being human. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    43 min

  5. MAR 9

    Why You Can’t Feel Your Emotions (And How to Reconnect With Them)

    What happens when you know emotions are there… but you can’t feel them? In this episode of Nat & Mat, we explore the strange experience of emotional disconnection — those moments when you feel numb, apathetic, or creatively blocked. Natalie asks a simple but powerful question: How do you connect with emotions you know exist, but can’t access? Mat explores why this happens and why it might not be a problem at all. Sometimes emotional numbness isn’t brokenness — it’s regulation. Other times it’s the result of living in a stable environment where we rarely experience contrast. In this conversation we explore: Why emotional numbness can be completely normalHow comparison creates emotional intensityThe idea of the mind as a lens that can become foggy over timePractices that help “polish the lens” — meditation, movement, and presenceWhy trying to force emotions often makes them harder to feelHow emotional connection fuels creativity and artistic expression We also talk about depression, apathy, spiritual practices, and why learning to sit with emotions — instead of fighting them — can transform the way we experience life. If you’ve ever felt emotionally flat, creatively blocked, or wondered whether something is wrong with you… this episode might change the way you see it. Sometimes the goal isn’t to create emotion. Sometimes the goal is simply to be present enough to notice what’s already there. 🎧 Nat & Mat Podcast Conversations about creativity, awareness, music, and the strange experience of being human. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    48 min

  6. MAR 2

    Writing Without Clinging — Letting Go of the Outcome

    There’s a strange tension in songwriting. You sit down to create something honest… but somewhere along the way, the outcome sneaks in. Will this be good? Will people like it? Will it stream? Will it define me? In this episode, Nat and Mat talk about the subtle attachment artists develop to results — and how that attachment can quietly suffocate creativity. We explore: • Writing from pressure vs writing from presence • The fear of releasing imperfect work • Identity wrapped up in a song’s success • How letting go of outcome can actually make better art This isn’t about pretending outcomes don’t matter. It’s about noticing when they start driving the process. If you’re a songwriter, producer, or creative of any kind — this conversation might feel uncomfortably familiar. Make the song. Tell the truth. Then let it go. — Nat & Mat Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    55 min

  7. FEB 23

    Acceptance, Surrender & Time: Why Fighting Life Makes It Harder

    In this episode of Nat & Mat, we unpack something deceptively simple — acceptance. What does it actually mean to surrender? Is surrender weakness… or intelligence? And why does fighting time feel like swimming upstream? We explore how resistance creates suffering, how control is often an illusion, and what shifts when we stop trying to bend reality to our will. From personal stories to philosophical detours, this conversation moves through presence, ego, patience, and the strange freedom that comes when you stop arguing with life. This one feels calm… but it cuts deep. If you’ve ever felt frustrated with how things are unfolding — this episode might land exactly where it needs to. — Listen. Reflect. Let go (a little). Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    1h 8m

  8. FEB 12

    What Is Love? (And Why Do We Keep Getting It Wrong?)

    In Season 2, Episode 3 of Nat & Mat, we ask one of the most overused — and misunderstood — questions of all time: What is love? Is it chemistry? Attachment? Devotion? Projection? A biological trick? A spiritual force? Or something we only recognise once it’s gone? Nat & Mat dive deep into the layers of romance, ego, expectation, heartbreak, and the uncomfortable truths we don’t like to admit about connection. This isn’t a fluffy conversation about roses and fairy tales — it’s an honest, strange, and sometimes hilarious exploration of what actually drives us toward each other… and away. As always, expect sharp turns, unexpected humour, uncomfortable questions, and a few moments that might make you rethink your own story. If love is the most powerful force in our lives… why does it confuse us so much? 🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, Spreaker and everywhere you get your podcasts. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music: 🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg 🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

    1h 3m
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Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness.  Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.  Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out. For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness. 🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens: 👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link

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  • Creator
    Natalie Zannoni and Mathew Creedon
  • Years Active
    2K
  • Episodes
    22
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Natalie Zannoni and Mathew Creedon
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    The Inner Studio