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An interview with a French or international personality from the world of economics, politics, culture or diplomacy. 

  1. 04/08/2024

    Senegal’s democratic transition ‘sends positive message to other regimes’, says French FM Séjourné

    At the end of a three-day tour that took him successively to Kenya, Rwanda and Ivory Coast, France's Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné spoke to FRANCE 24 and RFI about relations with Rwanda, reform of the CFA franc, France's military presence in Africa and the wars in Gaza and Ukraine. French Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné gave an exclusive interview to FRANCE 24 and RFI, from Abidjan in Ivory Coast, after completing his first African tour.  The head of French diplomacy spoke in particular about the issues marking relations between Paris and the states of the African continent. On France’s actions during the genocide of Rwanda’s Tutsis, which he described as “the last genocide of the 20th century”,  Séjourné said France had “acknowledged responsibility for what was done”. Read moreGenocide of the Tutsis in Rwanda: how historians reckon with the horror Reacting to the election of Senegalese opponent Bassirou Diomaye Faye to the presidency, Séjourné said:  “I would like to say to you that the democratic process has worked. There's been a political shift, as has been the case in many countries. Now, there are different policies at play, but I think all of us can be quite happy to see that the Senegalese institutions were strong, that people were able to vote and elections were held in a completely transparent manner.” “This is what we call a democracy that it is alive, and I think it sends a positive message to other regimes who believe that power only comes through force,” the minister said. Regarding the new Senegalese president’s decision to do away with the CFA franc, Séjourné said that future of the African currency depends on the "sovereign right" of African states. “It's not up to France to have a position on the matter,” the minister declared. When questioned about Russia’s growing presence in Africa, he said “every nation is free to choose whatever partnerships they want to have”, though warning that partnerships with Russia came with strings attached. “The Russians always seek compensation one way or another, either through primary resources, national resources, or they asked to be paid to provide some form of security,” he said. Séjourné said it was no longer in Paris's own "interest" to talk to Russia after differing accounts emerged from a rare phone call about last month's deadly attack on a Moscow concert hall. "It is not in our interest currently to hold discussions with Russian officials because the statements and the summaries issued about them are lies.” Click on the video player to watch the full interview.

    26 min
  2. 07/25/2023

    Russia is trying to 'fund its war machine at the expense of Africa', Ukraine's FM says

    In an interview with FRANCE 24, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba condemned Russia's recent strikes on Ukraine's Black Sea ports in the wake of Moscow's withdrawal from the Black Sea Grain Initiative. "Russia's objective is to provoke the increase of [a] global food crisis, export its own grain without any hindrances and make as much money as they can," Kuleba said. "But the people of Ukraine and Africa are paying the price." He added: "Russia will fill its pockets to fund [its] war machine, at the expense of Africa”.   Kuleba said recent Russian strikes on the Ukrainian port of Reni, on the border with NATO member Romania are a way for Russian President Vladimir Putin to "test the reaction of NATO". "NATO has to react firmly and decisively in response to this," he said. He confirmed that "Russian ships, wherever they are in the Black Sea, become legitimate targets" in response to Moscow's own warning that civilian ships heading to Ukrainian ports would now be targets. The top Ukrainian diplomat vowed that Kyiv would "keep trying" to revive the Black Sea Grain Initiative following Russia's withdrawal. He added, however, that if this is not feasible, an alternative sea route to export Ukrainian grain needs to be put in place, as well as ensuring exports to Europe. Kuleba said he was aware of Russian attempts to export its grain via Qatar and Turkey. He said it would be "shameful" for any country to take part in such a deal, adding that the move shows that Russia "want to make more money, benefitting from higher prices provoked by their own actions". He said it would be "unacceptable" for Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Bulgaria to block Ukraine's agricultural exports beyond a September 15 deadline that was previously agreed. "One of the reasons why Russia is destroying Ukrainian agricultural grain infrastructure is because they want to provoke additional tensions between Ukraine and its neighbours," he argued. "We should not play Putin's game."  Upcoming Russia-Africa summit 'a whitewashing instrument'The top Ukrainian diplomat claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin was hosting a Russia-Africa summit later this week in St Petersburg "as a whitewashing instrument for his reputation", and not in order to benefit the continent. Regarding the Wagner paramilitary group's presence in Africa, Kuleba noted that Ukraine had "a valuable amount of information" that could help African countries beef up their security. Turning to the issue of weapons, Kuleba said that while Ukraine is seeking US-made long-range ATACMS missiles, Kyiv is already receiving long-range missiles from the UK and France. "So this is not the item that we do not have. We need more but in principle, we have it," he said. He added that demining material was also "a very topical need". Finally, with regards to talks over US-made F-16 fighter jets, he said "this deal is done". He noted that if Ukraine received the fighter jets, Kyiv would "not depend on Russian blackmail in exporting Ukrainian grain to global markets". "The sooner we receive them, the sooner we will be able to launch a new corridor," he said. If this happened, "millions of tonnes of Ukrainian grain will make it to the global market, stabilising prices, lowering them, helping people to avoid famine and most importantly, depriving Russia of its blackmail leverage on the world."

    13 min
  3. 07/14/2023

    ICC chief prosecutor: 'We have to make sure that people are held responsible' for crimes in Sudan

    Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, told FRANCE 24 that he had decided to open fresh investigations into alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity committed during the ongoing fighting in Sudan. He said his office had received numerous reports from many sources of crimes such as destruction of property, executions, killings and rapes. Khan added that he had informed both camps, the Sudanese Armed Forces led by General Abdul Fattah al-Burhan and the Rapid Support Forces paramilitary group of General Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo, of his move. “We have to find a way to make sure that this time, people are held responsible in a timely fashion,” he said. He also pledged to "leave no stone unturned" to bring war criminals to justice. He refused to describe some of the crimes committed in West Darfur as “genocide”, saying he couldn’t prejudge the investigation. “The law must mean something” to the people now displaced and fleeing for their lives, he said. Khan indicated having met both of the warring generals in the past and that they are fully aware of his work to investigate crimes and their perpetrators. He acknowledged that he is not allowed to visit Sudan, despite trying to do since fighting broke out in April. “The door is closed, and there is a deliberate policy of non-cooperation from all parties,” he said. In order to gather evidence, he pointed to satellite imagery, refugees in neighbouring countries and an online portal set up by his office to facilitate the reporting of information by witnesses. In regard to ex-president Omar al-Bashir and two of his ministers, against whom arrest warrants were issued by the ICC for their actions in Darfur two decades ago, he said they were no longer in custody.  He called on the international community to step up its commitment to bring justice to the people of Sudan. “If we don’t act, we’re going to be viewed as irrelevant and purveyors of false hope and false promises,” he warned – be it in Sudan, Ukraine or Libya. “If we keep showing that we’re not fit for purpose in times of peril, we run the risk of diluting the impact of something that it took the Holocaust and the second World War to create,” he added.      The failure to do justice to Darfur two decades ago “has sown the seeds for this second round of violence. We need to finally get up and smell the roses. [If we don't,] we’re going to see more violence. We can’t be a toothless tiger,” he concluded.

    13 min

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