The Kitchen Table

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Welcome to The Kitchen Table, with Phil, Mohamed, and Danielle. A space where research meets relationships, and where we slow things down to talk about what really matters. This is where you’ll get to know us - our journeys through education, the questions we’re still wrestling with, and why belonging, mattering, and social justice sit at the heart of the work we do. We’ll also be joined by friends from across education and beyond, people who are committed to building communities that are rooted in care, courage, and the belief that everyone matters. So grab a cup of tea, a coffee, or whatever comfort food you have at arm’s reach, pull up a chair, and spend some time with us at The Kitchen Table.

  1. Aug 30

    Jon Hutchinson on What Classroom Level Belonging Really Look Like

    What if the secret to academic rigour isn't just a strict curriculum, but a classroom where every child genuinely feels they belong? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Jon Hutchinson, Director of Curriculum and Teacher Development at the Reach Foundation and author of Building Belonging. Jon shares his journey from focusing purely on instructional rigour to realising that even the best curriculum fails if students are not emotionally and behaviourally engaged. We explore how schools can move past tokenistic gestures to create environments where students feel truly known, valued, and indispensable. What You’ll Discover - The Three Pillars of Belonging: Why feeling known, valued, and able to make genuine contributions are the foundational elements of a thriving school culture. - Dismantling Belonging Uncertainty: How radical transparency and reframing academic struggle can prevent students from internalising failure as a sign that they don't fit in. - Designing Relational Schools: Practical insights from Reach Academy Feltham on how deliberate architectural and linguistic choices from first-name terms to home visits can dismantle traditional power dynamics and build deep trust. Building a true sense of belonging isn't about lowering standards or avoiding hard work. It is about creating the high-trust environments necessary for students to take the ultimate academic risk: trying, failing, and growing in front of their peers. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  2. Aug 16

    Action Jackson: Happiness, Belonging and the Neuroscience of Connection

    What happens to human beings when they stop feeling that they belong, matter, or have agency over their lives? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Jackson Ogunyemi, better known as Action Jackson. Jackson is an international keynote speaker, educator, mentor, author, and the self-described UK ambassador for happiness. We explore his journey from falling into depression to reclaiming his joy, the neuroscience behind human connection, and why we must move from a culture of performing well-being to truly experiencing it. What You’ll Discover - The Performance of Happiness: Why modern culture rewards us for showcasing our lives rather than truly connecting, and how this leads to emotional dysregulation. - Connect Before You Correct: How building genuine, long-term relationships with young people creates the safety needed for them to accept guidance and embrace failure. - Reclaiming Your Joy: A look into Jackson's SMILE framework and why giving yourself permission to pause and replenish is essential for sustainable leadership. Jackson’s powerful reminder is that unconditional love is not just a soft concept, but a neurological necessity for human beings to thrive. In a world that often feels increasingly divided and exhausting, this conversation offers a hopeful, practical vision for bringing joy, presence, and genuine connection back into our schools and homes. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  3. Aug 2

    Peter Hughes: The Mossbourne Way - Building a 100-Year Legacy in Education

    What does it truly take to build a school culture where academic excellence is non-negotiable, and how do you hold the line when the world pushes back? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Peter Hughes, CEO of the Mossbourne Federation and author of Outstanding School Leadership. Known for transforming educational outcomes in areas of high deprivation, Peter shares his uncompromising philosophy on discipline, high expectations, and why clarity is the ultimate form of care for disadvantaged children. What You’ll Discover - Creating Environments Where Learning is the Norm: Why true social mobility requires a highly structured, predictable environment where the easiest thing for a child to do is learn. - The Long-Term View of Belonging: Why well-being should be measured by the adults children become in ten years' time, rather than just how they feel on any given Tuesday. - Moral Courage in Leadership: The importance of standing by your principles, protecting your staff, and why true allyship sometimes means risking your career for what is right. Building a legacy that lasts a century requires more than just good intentions; it demands an unwavering belief in the potential of every child. By refusing to lower the bar and holding fast to clear boundaries, we can create schools that genuinely change the trajectory of future generations. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  4. Jul 19

    Finding Cultural Agency in an Uncertain Future

    What if the true measure of social mobility isn't about escaping your community, but having the agency to thrive within it? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, Phil and Danielle sit down for a conversation exploring the powerful concept of "cultural agency." Moving beyond the traditional, often limiting view of social mobility as a ladder of escape, they discuss how we can reframe our educational systems to help young people flourish without requiring them to erase their backgrounds or leave their communities behind. What You’ll Discover - Redefining Social Mobility: Why true flourishing shouldn't require young people to abandon their roots, and how "cultural agency" allows students to succeed while remaining authentic to who they are. - AI as a Social Leveller: How artificial intelligence is democratising voice, allowing individuals who might lack traditional middle-class communication skills to confidently express themselves and be heard. - Navigating the Future of Work: A deep dive into the Milburn Review, the realities facing the 1.2 million young people not in education, employment, or training and why our education system must pivot towards human creativity and critical thinking. If we want to truly prepare the next generation for an unpredictable future, we must stop viewing their backgrounds as something to overcome and instead see them as the foundation for their success. By fostering self-worth and normalising the fear of stepping into new spaces, we can build a system where every young person feels they have earned a seat at the table. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  5. Jul 5

    Andy Wolfe: The Five Domains of Human Flourishing

    What does it really mean for human beings and the communities we build to flourish? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Andy Wolfe, Chief Education Officer for the Church of England and Interim Chief Executive of the National Society for Education. Andy oversees national work across developing leaders, shaping policy, and growing faith, while also authoring key resources including Flourishing Together: A Christian Vision for Students, Educators and Schools. We explore the timeless concept of human flourishing and its relevance for schools today. What You’ll Discover - The True Meaning of Flourishing: Why it’s not a new buzzword but a deep, relational concept rooted in Aristotle’s eudaimonia and how it moves beyond individual happiness to community and growth. - The Five Domains of Flourishing: Purpose, relationships, resources, learning, and wellbeing and why these matter for both children and the adults who support them. - Leadership and Culture: How school leaders can create environments where adults and children thrive together, and why flourishing can’t be reduced to competition or narrow academic metrics. Andy’s powerful reminder is that flourishing is not about skipping through life without challenges - it’s about growing through them in community, with purpose and connection. In a world that often feels increasingly competitive and isolating, this conversation offers a hopeful, practical vision for schools (and society) that prioritises belonging, character, and the common good over simple rankings or test scores. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  6. Jun 21

    Laura McPhee: Driving Psychological Safety

    If the ultimate goal of education is to help students thrive, why do we spend so little time talking about the psychological safety of the adults leading them? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Laura McPhee, Director of Education for University Schools Trust and a passionate advocate for social justice in education. With twenty years of experience and a proven track record of leading transformational change across London, Laura joins us to explore the profound impact of psychological safety in our schools. We dive into why true leadership requires vulnerability, how our early lived experiences shape the way we lead, and why creating a culture of belonging is the ultimate driver for both staff well-being and student success. What You’ll Discover - The Power of Psychological Safety: Why creating an environment where staff can speak up, make mistakes, and challenge the status quo is the ultimate lever for school improvement. - The Blueprint of Our Leadership: How our early childhood experiences and attachment styles silently shape the way we handle conflict, delegate, and connect with our teams. - The Importance of Cognitive Diversity: Why moving away from "culture fit" and actively building teams that think differently is the missing piece in modern education. We spend so much time chasing superficial metrics and traditional markers of success that we forget the human element at the core of it all. Laura’s honesty about her own journey from a disengaged student to a leader who had to learn that vulnerability isn't a weakness - is a breath of fresh air in a sector that often rewards control over connection. It’s not about lowering our standards or avoiding accountability, but rather about realising that high performance can only truly exist when people feel safe enough to take interpersonal risks. Whether it's rotating the chair in a staff meeting or simply taking the time to understand a colleague's lived experience, the goal is to build spaces where everyone genuinely feels they matter. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Academies Trust, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  7. Jun 7

    Lisa May Thornley: Connection, Attachment and Belonging

    Connection, attachment and belonging - the real foundations of great education. In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Lisa May Thornley, SEND & Safeguarding Advisor at Zen Educate. A qualified teacher, SENCo, and Drama Therapist with extensive experience supporting vulnerable children and families, Lisa shares her journey and powerful insights on why relationships and purpose matter more than ever in schools. What You’ll Discover - Work, Career or Calling: Honest reflections on how viewing your role as a calling transforms your approach to education and life. - Practical Relational Tools: The power of the Karpman Triangle (thought, feeling, behaviour), embodiment, projection and role, and how these frameworks help children regulate emotions and overcome challenges like emotional-based school avoidance. - Attachment, Belonging & Social Agency: Why love and connection are the guiding principles for schools, and how giving children voice, safety and choice builds resilience and purpose. What really stood out is Lisa’s unwavering belief that everything in education comes back to feeling seen, safe, and heard. Whether drawing from her drama therapy roots, her work in prisons and with vulnerable families, or her training at Zen Educate, she shows how relational approaches and simple, practical tools can transform school culture, staff wellbeing, and children’s lives far beyond the classroom. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Academies Trust, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  8. May 24

    Kamal Ahmed: A Very British Gentleman

    In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Kamal Ahmed - journalist, editor, and now a senior leader at Fortune to explore his journey as the son of a Sudanese father and English mother. Kamal reflects on his book The Life and Times of a Very British Man, sharing honest stories from his childhood in West London, navigating race, class, difference, and the quiet (and not-so-quiet) experiences of feeling “other.” What You’ll Discover - Growing Up Between Cultures: Kamal’s experiences of difference in 1970s/80s Britain, from two-tone music and Soul II Soul to the slow realisation of prejudice and othering. - The Power of Critical Thinking and Partnership: Why giving young people the tools to navigate complex information, social media, and identity matters more than ever. - Belonging, Education & The Next Generation: Reflections on how schools, conversations, and intergenerational sympathy can help the next generation feel they matter. What really stayed with us is Kamal’s honesty about his own prejudices and mistakes as a young person, alongside his deep optimism about Britishness as a rich mix of backgrounds. His call for partnership across generations rather than simply “making way” feels especially powerful. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Academies Trust, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

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Welcome to The Kitchen Table, with Phil, Mohamed, and Danielle. A space where research meets relationships, and where we slow things down to talk about what really matters. This is where you’ll get to know us - our journeys through education, the questions we’re still wrestling with, and why belonging, mattering, and social justice sit at the heart of the work we do. We’ll also be joined by friends from across education and beyond, people who are committed to building communities that are rooted in care, courage, and the belief that everyone matters. So grab a cup of tea, a coffee, or whatever comfort food you have at arm’s reach, pull up a chair, and spend some time with us at The Kitchen Table.

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  • Creator
    Urban Podcasts
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    16
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