The Liquid Lunch Project

Matthew Meehan, Luigi Rosabianca
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After decades of experience on Wall Street, in finance and building teams of all sizes in multiple industries, Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca have a world-class understanding of what it takes to scale (and fund) a successful business. They are here to share a No-BS approach to what is involved in growing an empire. A note before you go any further: This show is only for those who want to grow. Every episode of this podcast is going to lay out actionable advice for business owners and entrepreneurs who want to grow their business. We have fun here - but the fact remains that everything you want is on the other side of something difficult. This show will help you get to that other side.

  1. 5d ago

    How to Make Money When the Market Goes Down

    What if retirement income didn't depend on the market going up? Most people are told the same thing: buy stocks, hold them, hope they rise, and try not to panic when the market drops. Robby Hogle has a different plan. Robby, founder of Vitality Trading and a former Goldman Sachs Vice President, joins Matt and Luigi to break down his Double Dipping Dividend Strategy, a method built around dividend-paying stocks and covered calls designed to create regular cash flow without turning investing into a full-time job. This isn't about chasing meme stocks or staring at six monitors all day. It's about using boring companies, clear rules, and options in a way that can help investors generate income in up, flat, and even down markets.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why "boring" dividend stocks can be a good thing How covered calls can create extra monthly cash flow Why Robby likes playing the role of the "insurance company" How options can help reduce some downside risk Why cash flow may matter more than watching your account balance How the wheel strategy can help you buy stocks at prices you actually like Why Robby wants at least 10 positions across different industries When paying a financial advisor makes sense (and when it may not) How Robby handled an IBM position after the stock dropped roughly 30% The two stocks Robby likes right now for long-term income investors 👤 About Robby Hogle Robby Hogle is the founder of Vitality Trading and a former Vice President at Goldman Sachs. He teaches investors how to use dividend stocks and options to build cash flow while keeping risk and time spent managing a portfolio in check. Want to see how Robby runs the strategy? Visit vitality-trading.com/liquid for Robby's Liquid Lunch Project offer, including his Dividend Digest, access to a weekly member call, and an opportunity to speak with him one-on-one. 🔗 Links + Stuff Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robbyhogle/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbyhogle1/     🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@theliquidlunchproject     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  2. Sep 9

    The $64K Red Light Bed: Smart Investment or Expensive Toy?

    Is red light therapy a wellness trend? Or a real business opportunity? Cash-pay wellness is growing fast, and business owners are looking for services customers actually want without adding a pile of staff, training, or overhead. In this episode of The Liquid Lunch Project, Matt and Luigi sit down with Dr. Carl Rothschild and Dock Walls to talk about the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table and, more importantly, the business sitting behind the technology. Dr. Carl explains the science they say powers red light therapy, including its effect on mitochondria, cellular energy, recovery, and fat loss. Dock tackles the operator side: who is buying these systems, how businesses are charging for treatments, what it takes to run one, and how owners can think about adding red light therapy as another revenue stream. 🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why cash-pay wellness keeps gaining ground How red light therapy moved from niche treatment to business opportunity The story behind the Trifecta Pro 450 What mitochondria have to do with red light therapy Why athletes use red light for recovery and performance What FDA clearance means for the product Which types of businesses are adding red light therapy How much training and space the equipment requires How operators can price treatments The financing and revenue math behind the business model Why an existing customer base could make adoption easier 👤 About our Guests: Dr. Carl Rothschild is a chiropractor, author, and longtime red light therapy practitioner who helped develop the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table. Dock Walls is the company's CFO and works with business owners evaluating red light therapy as a service and revenue stream. 🎧 Why Listen: If you own a med spa, wellness center, chiropractic office, gym, recovery studio…or you're simply an entrepreneur watching where consumers are spending money…this conversation is worth paying attention to. 🔗 Links + Stuff Learn more about Trifecta Light Therapy: Trifecta Light — Official Links & Resources https://linktr.ee/trifectalightofficial Digital Brochure — Trifecta Pro 450 Discover the features and benefits of the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table: https://publuu.com/flip-book/51650/2091185 Buyer's Guide — What to Look for in a Red Light Bed https://drive.google.com/file/d/17otPCBjSmxSDvN0CnyId1pBgwhbyD-yx/view?usp=sharing Illuminated Healing by Dr. Carl Rothschild https://www.amazon.com/Illuminated-Healing-Unraveling-Mysteries-Therapy/dp/B0C9GG2ZYV Red Light Therapy Studies & Research https://trifectalight.com/studies/ Videos & Testimonials NBA Legend Chris Paul Uses Trifecta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsymGsHrvY Travis Pastrana Interview https://youtu.be/0w-pL41qRW4 Patient Compilation Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0zoazWC0k Practitioner Compilation Video https://youtu.be/bRbaFjwQxRE More Trifecta Video Testimonials https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkmPaRxEdLUO2VRItGRlQtDM_v5QQrBvW Why Weaker Devices Fall Short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=059qgtb_2II Explore the Science Behind Red Light Therapy https://youtu.be/AHuH-8GgSXU NOTE: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes. Medical and health statements made during the conversation reflect the guests' views, experiences, and cited testimonials. They should not be taken as medical advice. Consult an appropriate healthcare professional regarding medical treatment or health conditions.   🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right. 🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@theliquidlunchproject 📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/ 💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86 📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/ 💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  3. Sep 2

    Leading at the Speed of Change: Why Great Leaders Know When to Slow Down

    Business is moving faster than ever. AI is accelerating decisions, markets are shifting in real time, and leaders are being asked to adapt constantly. But moving faster isn't always the answer. In this episode of Built to Scale, Matthew R. Meehan sits down with Aileda Bailey, founder of Ask Aileda, to talk about what it really takes to lead through rapid change without getting trapped in urgency, burnout, or reactive decision-making. Aileda explains why leaders need to understand their own "human operating system," how neuroscience can help entrepreneurs perform better under pressure, and why AI should be treated as a resource and NOT a replacement for judgment, intuition, trust, or leadership. Matt and Aileda also dig into one of the biggest challenges founders face as their companies grow: making the shift from owner to leader. Because if every question, decision, and problem still has to come through you, you're not really scaling. You're becoming the bottleneck.   In this episode, you'll learn: Why trying to keep up with constant change can actually make you a worse leader How to step out of urgency and make decisions with more clarity Why AI can accelerate the problems already hiding inside a business The human skills technology can't replace How neuroscience can help you reframe stress and pressure When to trust data—and when experience and intuition matter What "conscious leadership" actually means in practical terms Why founders struggle to give up control as their companies grow The difference between acting like an owner and leading like a CEO Why scaling requires reinvesting in your people and organization Simple habits that can help leaders think more clearly and perform better under pressure   Your Challenge Before your next big decision, don't react right away. Take a pause. Step away from the screen. Take three deep breaths, go for a walk, or give yourself 24 hours if the decision allows it. Then ask yourself: Am I making this decision from clarity, or from urgency? And if your business is growing, take it one step further: What am I still controlling that someone else on my team should own? Pick one decision to slow down and one responsibility to let go of this week. That's your challenge.   Connect with Aileda Bailey Ask Aileda Website: https://askaileda.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/askaileda Facebook: https://facebook.com/askaileda LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/askaileda YouTube: https://youtube.com/@askaileda   Need capital before growth turns into another bottleneck? If your business is growing but still feels stuck, the answer is not always "throw more money at it." The right capital strategy should support the right growth plan. Matt and the Credit Banc team help business owners explore financing options for working capital, acquisitions, equipment, expansion, and growth opportunities before they are stuck scrambling at the last minute. Learn more here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86     Built to Scale is a podcast segment from The Liquid Lunch Project, hosted by Matt, built for entrepreneurs, founders, and business owners who want to grow smarter, tighten operations, improve profitability, and build companies that can scale without chaos running the show.

  4. Aug 26

    AI Won't Fix Your Business. It'll Expose It.

    What happens when you add AI to a business with bad systems? You don't magically get a better business. You may just break things faster. Jeff MacPherson, CEO of Cloud37, joins Matt Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to talk about what AI can actually do for small businesses—and where founders keep getting it wrong. Jeff has spent years building tech, including an early Instagram automation platform that sent more than a billion messages before Facebook shut it down. Today, he helps companies turn what their best people know into repeatable systems that can scale. The big lesson? Stop chasing the newest AI tool. Fix the way your business works first.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why AI exposes bad processes instead of fixing them The onboarding mistake that quietly slows down growth Why standard questions make AI work better How to pull knowledge out of your best employees' heads Why human adoption is often harder than the tech How one financial firm improved sales and service with the same system Why AI may expose fake experts faster than real ones The reason "white glove" service still matters Why relationships may become more valuable as AI gets better What losing an entire company to Facebook taught Jeff about platform risk Why founders should build systems—not depend on one AI model   👤 About our Guest: Jeff MacPherson is the CEO of Cloud37, where he helps businesses turn internal knowledge and proven processes into AI-powered systems that can scale. He previously built one of the earliest Instagram messaging automation platforms and has spent more than a decade building technology businesses.    🎧 Why Listen: AI can make a good process faster. It can also make a bad process fail faster. Before you automate everything, figure out what actually works, make it repeatable, and keep the human relationships your competitors can't copy. Know a founder who keeps buying AI tools but still runs the company from their inbox? Send them this episode. Then follow The Liquid Lunch Project so you don't miss the next conversation.   🔗 Links + Stuff Cloud37: https://www.cloud37.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmacai/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeff.macpherson/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeffmacai Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeffmacp/       🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@theliquidlunchproject     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  5. Aug 19

    Before You Buy a Business, Check These Red Flags

    Would you buy a business that loses its clients the minute the owner walks out the door? Muriel Touati reviewed more than 100 businesses while hunting for an acquisition. A lot of them looked good from across the room. Up close? Different story. Founder dependency. Weak recurring revenue. Too much money tied to one client. No real digital marketing system. And, in one case, a $3.7 million deal with 40% monthly customer churn. Hard pass. Muriel joins Matthew R. Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to break down the biggest red flags in business acquisition, what lenders really care about, and how owners can build a company that is easier to grow, finance, and sell.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why founder dependency can kill a business sale How customer concentration scares buyers and lenders Why predictable revenue matters in business valuation The difference between recurring revenue and starting from zero each month How digital marketing can increase company value Why off-market deals may beat crowded business listings How LinkedIn and email can support deal sourcing What buyers should check before signing an acquisition deal How SBA loans and rent replacement may help finance a purchase Why a "good deal" can still be a very expensive headache   👤 About our Guest: Muriel Touati is the founder of Exit 3D Studio and author of The Valuation Gap: What Buyers See That Sellers Miss. She helps business owners reduce founder dependency, build better lead generation systems, and prepare their companies for growth or sale.    🎧 Why Listen: Before you buy a business—or try to sell yours—listen to this episode. It may save you from buying a very polished dumpster fire. Visit exit3dstudio.com to learn more about Muriel's work and get the first chapter of The Valuation Gap.   🔗 Links + Stuff Get the first chapter of The Valuation Gap FREE: https://www.exit3dstudio.com/the-valuation-gap Muriel on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/murieltouati       🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@theliquidlunchproject     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  6. Aug 12

    Win Today: How Great Leaders Reset Under Pressure

    Positive thinking might be the reason you're still stuck. Pressure doesn't vanish when you become a better leader. The stakes just get bigger. Performance coach and sports psychology expert Joshua Lifrak joins Matt and Luigi to explain how leaders can stay focused, reset after a bad result, and build confidence that is backed by real work, not wishful thinking and a motivational coffee mug. Joshua breaks down the same mental habits used by elite athletes, championship teams, and high-performing business leaders. The goal is not to feel great every second. It is to see the facts, control the next move, and stop one bad moment from wrecking the whole day.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why pressure is not the enemy How emotions can help or hurt performance Why neutral thinking can beat positive thinking How "Mile Zero" helps you reset after a win or loss Why leaders should "do simple better" The difference between real confidence and pure delusion How blame, excuses, and low standards create losing teams Why great leaders catch people living the company's values A simple morning reset that starts without your phone How small daily wins turn into major results  👤 About our Guest: Joshua Lifrak is a performance coach, sports psychology expert, and author of Win Today. Through Limitless Minds and Lift Up Consulting, he helps athletes, leaders, and teams perform under pressure and build stronger habits.    🔗 Links + Stuff LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-lifrak-59ab5442/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshualifrak/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jlifrak/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Win+Today+Joshua+Lifrak    Your move: Tomorrow morning, leave the phone alone, get outside, and choose the one behavior that will help you win the day. Then send this episode to the leader who needs a reset, not another pep talk.      🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@Credit_Banc     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  7. Aug 5

    The Real Cost of Owning a Bar with Chris Schneider

    Think owning a bar is just pouring drinks and counting cash? Think again. Bar owner and coach Chris Schneider breaks down what really makes a bar work…and why a packed room can still leave you broke on Monday. Chris joins Matthew R. Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to talk pricing, staff, food, location, profit, and the small costs that can quietly wipe out your margin. He also explains why gut instinct is not enough, why simple drinks often win, and why your parking lot may matter more than your cocktail list.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why bar owners need to follow the numbers How bad staff culture kills retention Why a flashy location can hurt your profit Why beer and well drinks still drive sales How food keeps customers spending longer What bar owners miss about insurance costs Why happy hour laws change by state How one small personal detail can build customer loyalty Why a busy bar can still lose money What every small business can learn from hospitality   Ready to see what your favorite bar is really dealing with? Listen now, then send this episode to the friend who keeps saying, "We should open a bar."   👤 Connect with Chris! Chris Schneider is the founder of The Bar Business Coach and a former bar owner. He helps independent bars and restaurants improve pricing, systems, menus, staff performance, and profit.  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barbusinesscoach/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-schneider-74732021/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyvnkceZSVsRMTJdnB4SuQ   🔗 Links + Resources Mentioned How to Make Top Shelf Profits in the Bar Business: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C5C6LBK5?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback Menus That Sell: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GHRH2LKM?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback     🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@Credit_Banc     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

  8. Jul 29

    Mark Roberge's Formula for Smarter Sales and Safer Growth

    Most sales problems start when the seller won't stop talking. Mark Roberge (HubSpot's founding CRO, Harvard Business School lecturer, and co-founder of Stage 2 Capital) joins Matt and Luigi to challenge the loudest myths in sales and startup growth. His take is simple: great selling is not about pressure, slick pitches, or talking someone into a bad deal.    It's about asking better questions, finding the real problem, and knowing when to walk away. The conversation also tackles a mistake that kills promising companies: scaling before customers are getting real value. Mark breaks down why rising revenue can fool founders, how to test product-market fit, and what must be true before a business earns the right to grow faster.   🍸 What you'll hear in this episode: Why sales is about discovery, not persuasion The questions that expose what a buyer really needs How to reframe a bad decision without sounding like a jerk Where ethical selling ends and buyer responsibility begins Why cold calls still work better than people claim The tradeoff between outreach volume and personalization Why small dinners and face-to-face meetings are making a comeback The danger of using revenue as your only scoreboard Product-market fit, go-to-market fit, and building a durable moat Why scaling too early can wreck a good company The HubSpot negotiation move involving a handful of M&M's Why Mark is donating the proceeds from The Science of Scaling to McLean Hospital   💡 Notable takeaway: "Selling is about buying. It's about helping the buyer buy and solve their problems."   👤 About our guest: Mark Roberge helped grow HubSpot from zero revenue to IPO as its founding Chief Revenue Officer. He now teaches at Harvard Business School, leads Stage 2 Capital, and created The Science of Scaling, an evidence-based framework for growing companies without outrunning customer value.   🎧 Why listen? Because this episode will help you sell smarter, spot bad growth early, and avoid scaling your business before it's ready.   🔗 Links + Stuff Mentioned Sales Acceleration Formula: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Acceleration-Formula-Technology-Companies/dp/1119047072 Stage 2 Capital: https://www.stage2.capital/ Winning by Design Frameworks: https://winningbydesign.com Force Management MEDIC Framework: https://forcemanagement.com Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markroberge/ Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ScienceofScaling     🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations on business growth, funding, strategy, and the stuff most people don't explain clearly. If this episode helped, a quick rating or review goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who actually care about getting this right.     🎧 Listen or watch The Liquid Lunch Project Available on all major podcast and video platforms: • Official site: https://theliquidlunchproject.com • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-liquid-lunch-project/ • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/12HPEDMmsbfsp8tHt5LiZJ • Audible: https://shorturl.at/6j4vz • YouTube (full episodes + clips): https://www.youtube.com/@Credit_Banc     📬 Want more than just the podcast? Every Friday, we publish The Weekly. A fast, smart rundown of what actually matters in finance, tech, small business, and the economy…without the noise. Subscribe here: 👉 https://theweeklyfromshieldadvisory.substack.com/     💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc. Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork. 👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86   📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode. • Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan • Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca • The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/     💬 One last thing Know a business owner who would appreciate this conversation? Send them the episode. That's how this show grows.

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After decades of experience on Wall Street, in finance and building teams of all sizes in multiple industries, Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca have a world-class understanding of what it takes to scale (and fund) a successful business. They are here to share a No-BS approach to what is involved in growing an empire. A note before you go any further: This show is only for those who want to grow. Every episode of this podcast is going to lay out actionable advice for business owners and entrepreneurs who want to grow their business. We have fun here - but the fact remains that everything you want is on the other side of something difficult. This show will help you get to that other side.

Information

  • Creator
    Matthew Meehan, Luigi Rosabianca
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    281
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright: shieldadvisorygroup.com
  • Show Website
    The Liquid Lunch Project

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