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The Margin is a podcast from MGI Research that explores the evolving world of business monetization. Hosted by MGI Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark, the show features candid conversations with founders, CEOs, product leaders, and industry experts at the forefront of pricing, billing, and revenue operations. Each episode dives deep into the strategies, technologies, and trends shaping how companies generate, capture, and grow revenue—from subscription and usage-based models to AI-driven monetization. Whether you're in finance, product, or IT, The Margin offers practical insights to help you navigate complexity and drive growth in the digital economy.

  1. Monetization at Scale: John Stame on Product-Led Growth and Direct Sales

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    Monetization at Scale: John Stame on Product-Led Growth and Direct Sales

    In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey speaks with John Stame, veteran enterprise architect and business systems leader with over 35 years of experience at Atlassian, Microsoft, and Chevron. John shares hard-won lessons from helping Atlassian scale from $100M to several billion in revenue while evolving from a pure product-led growth (PLG) model to a hybrid of PLG, partner, and direct sales. He unpacks the architectural and governance challenges of supporting multiple sales motions, the tradeoffs between suites and best-of-breed solutions, and why it’s nearly impossible to avoid dual stacks. They explore the future of quote-to-cash, including the role of AI agents, data governance strategies, and why enterprise architecture remains critical even as monetization models shift toward usage and consumption-based pricing. What You’ll Learn in this Episode:  Why product-led growth breaks down without deliberate quote-to-cash architecture The hidden architectural tradeoffs of adding direct sales to a PLG motion How to rationalize CPQ, CRM, billing, and contracts without duplicating stacks Where governance is essential and where it actively slows innovation How to instrument monetization systems before growth exposes breaking points

    22 phút
  2. Pricing in Motion: Michael Wu on AI, Data, and Demand

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    Pricing in Motion: Michael Wu on AI, Data, and Demand

    In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, speaks with Dr. Michael Wu, Chief AI Strategist at PROS, about what other industries can learn from decades of airline experience in dynamic pricing and revenue optimization. Dr. Wu shares insights on building trust in AI, leveraging data to drive price precision, and accelerating quote times in complex B2B environments. They also explore the shift from black-box to glass-box AI, the power of 1% pricing changes, and how CFOs can start preparing now for AI-powered pricing transformation. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why the airline industry became the blueprint for real-time pricing, yield management, and demand sensingHow AI-powered pricing enables businesses to operate dynamically in volatile markets at scaleWhy data readiness and automation are prerequisites for effective AI-driven pricing decisionsHow trust, visibility into pricing decisions, and change management determine whether AI pricing actually delivers valueWhy pricing is the fastest and most powerful lever CFOs can pull to drive margin, revenue, and competitive advantage

    26 phút
  3. The Contract Intelligence Gap: Praful Saklani on Unlocking Revenue Hidden in Contracts

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    The Contract Intelligence Gap: Praful Saklani on Unlocking Revenue Hidden in Contracts

    In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, sits down with Praful Saklani, CEO and Founder of Pramata, to unpack the untapped value hidden in enterprise contracts. Despite major investments in CLM systems, most companies still can’t answer basic questions about their agreements. Saklani explains why legacy tools fall short, how AI, especially generative AI, can revolutionize contract intelligence, and why this shift must be viewed as a business-wide transformation. From pricing and renewal optimization to risk management and revenue growth, this episode is a wake-up call for C-level leaders. What You’ll Learn in This Episode:  Why most CLM investments fail to deliver insight beyond basic document storageHow fragmented contract data undermines pricing, renewals, and margin expansionWhy contract intelligence is a CEO-, CFO-, and CRO-level monetization issue, not just a legal oneWhere generative AI delivers real value in contract analysis (and where the hype breaks down)How enterprises can unlock revenue, cost savings, and negotiation leverage from existing contracts

    27 phút

  4. 11/12/2025

    The Future Is Metered: Puneet Gupta on How to Succeed with Usage-Based Models

    In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, speaks with Puneet Gupta, CEO and Founder of Amberflo, and a key architect behind Amazon Web Services’ early consumption billing systems. They explore what it takes to succeed with usage-based pricing, from cultural alignment and metering infrastructure to flexible billing models and real-time visibility. Gupta breaks down why usage, not price, is the true system of record, and why CIOs are uniquely positioned to lead this shift. If you’re rethinking how to monetize innovation, this conversation offers a clear roadmap. What you'll learn in this episode: Why usage—not price—must become your system of recordThe metering foundations required to scale consumption modelsHow prepaid, hybrid, and pay-as-you-go models really work in practiceThe cultural shifts needed to make usage-based pricing succeedWhy CIOs are uniquely positioned to lead the move to usage and AI-ready monetization

    20 phút

  5. 24/11/2025

    Transforming Professional Services: Dan Brown on Pragmatic AI

    In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Igor Stenmark speaks with Dan Brown, Chief Product Officer at Celonis, about the true impact of generative AI on professional services. Is it an existential threat, or a powerful accelerant? Drawing on experience at Microsoft and leading PSA vendors, Dan unpacks where GenAI delivers real value, where it falls short, and how firms can adopt a “pragmatic AI” strategy focused on impact, ease of deployment, and closed-loop feedback. They also explore the risks of AI hallucinations, pricing pressure, and why automation doesn’t replace trust. What You’ll Learn: Why GenAI is both an accelerant and a risk for services firmsWhere AI actually delivers value in professional services todayWhy trust, opinion-based work, and counterfactual thinking remain stubbornly humanHow rising expectations, tooling overload, and talent shortages are shaping AI adoptionThe “Pragmatic AI” framework used inside leading services and software organizations

    41 phút

  6. 11/11/2025

    Redefining Revenue: Youssef Yaghmour on the Six Pillars of Intelligent Monetization

    In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Igor Stenmark sits down with Youssef Yaghmour, CEO and Founder of BluLogix, to explore the evolving challenges of monetization for multi-channel enterprises. They discuss the limitations of ERP systems, the role of AI in revenue prediction, and BluLogix’s six pillars of intelligent revenue management. From managing channel complexity to minimizing revenue leakage, Youssef shares practical insights for companies modernizing their monetization strategy in today’s fast-paced digital economy. What You’ll Learn: Why ERP Alone Isn’t Enough: Understand the limits of traditional ERP systems and why monetization platforms are essential for agile, multi-channel businesses.Inside the Six Pillars of Intelligent Revenue Management: Explore how real-time margin tracking, GL integration, channel enablement, revenue recognition, forecasting, and prediction work together to eliminate revenue leaks.How to Build True Cost Visibility: Learn how combining billing and cost tracking at the point of invoice creation helps prevent margin erosion and improve profitability.AI’s Role in Modern Revenue Management: Discover how predictive analytics and AI-driven margin analysis can forecast growth opportunities and guide strategic focus.Scaling Through Channel Empowerment: Hear why enabling resellers with shared monetization tools isn’t just a cost—it’s a competitive advantage that fuels top-line growth.

    38 phút

  7. 28/10/2025

    Tien Tzuo on Total Monetization: The Next Evolution Beyond Subscriptions

    In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director of MGI Research, sits down with Zuora CEO and founder Tien Tzuo, the originator of the “subscription economy,” to explore his latest vision: Total Monetization. They discuss how modern business models are shifting from static pricing to dynamic, relationship-based monetization strategies. Tien shares insights on usage-based billing, scaling complexity, future-proofing your tech stack, and why monetization must be holistic and customer-centric. If you're navigating the transition to flexible, consumption-driven models, this conversation is a must-listen. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why subscriptions are no longer enough — and how total monetization redefines modern business modelsHow pricing evolves from fixed transactions to relationship-based value creationWhy automation and agile infrastructure are essential to scale flexible pricing and packagingHow finance, sales, and customer success must align to support continuous monetizationWhy companies that fail to adapt risk being outpaced by AI-driven competitors and market change

    21 phút

  8. 16/10/2025

    Jagan Reddy and the Future of RevRec

    In this episode of The Margin Podcast, Andrew Dailey of MGI Research speaks with Jagan Reddy, Founder and CEO of RightRev, about the mounting pressure on finance teams as businesses adopt consumption-based models. Drawing on decades of experience in revenue automation, Reddy explores the collapse of spreadsheet-based rev rec, the hidden risks of poor data quality, and why modern CFOs must champion quote-to-revenue transformation. From pricing strategy to contract flexibility and AI-powered scalability, this episode offers a roadmap for finance leaders looking to future-proof their monetization stack.  What you’ll learn in this episode: Why spreadsheet-based revenue accounting can’t keep up with consumption modelsHow finance can bridge the gap between sales, billing, and revenue recognitionThe critical role of data quality and automation in modern rev recWhy CFOs must lead finance technology investment to scale efficientlyHow pricing, delivery, and contract flexibility shape monetization success

    22 phút
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The Margin is a podcast from MGI Research that explores the evolving world of business monetization. Hosted by MGI Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark, the show features candid conversations with founders, CEOs, product leaders, and industry experts at the forefront of pricing, billing, and revenue operations. Each episode dives deep into the strategies, technologies, and trends shaping how companies generate, capture, and grow revenue—from subscription and usage-based models to AI-driven monetization. Whether you're in finance, product, or IT, The Margin offers practical insights to help you navigate complexity and drive growth in the digital economy.

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