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Mark Saal and Don Porter, co-hosts of The Media Scrum, have a combined 59 years worth of experience in Utah newspaper (and broadcast) journalism. Even though both have moved on to other lines of work — Don is a retired public relations manager and Mark as a high school English teacher — they remain intensely interested in the condition of journalism in the Beehive State and elsewhere. This biweekly podcast features interviews with people who also share an interest in, and have experience with, Utah news media and beyond. Send your comments and suggested guests and topics to themediascrum@hotmail.com.

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Mark Saal and Don Porter, co-hosts of The Media Scrum, have a combined 59 years worth of experience in Utah newspaper (and broadcast) journalism. Even though both have moved on to other lines of work — Don is a retired public relations manager and Mark as a high school English teacher — they remain intensely interested in the condition of journalism in the Beehive State and elsewhere. This biweekly podcast features interviews with people who also share an interest in, and have experience with, Utah news media and beyond. Send your comments and suggested guests and topics to themediascrum@hotmail.com.

    Season 2 & 3 Update

    Season 2 & 3 Update

    We haven't published an episode since April. Here's why, and the plans for Season 3.
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    Rep. Steve Handy

    Rep. Steve Handy

    This time on The Media Scrum we speak with Rep. Steve Handy, who represents House District 16 in the Utah Legislature. Steve’s a six-term incumbent who just got tossed by delegates to the GOP Davis County Convention. He talks about that, and other things – including his 17 years at the Standard-Examiner and Deseret News, his dealings with reporters, his work on various legislation including clean-air initiatives and gun bills, and more.
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    Amy Joi O'Donoghue

    Amy Joi O'Donoghue

    This time on The Media Scrum we speak with Amy Joi O’Donoghue, a reporter for the Deseret News’ Utah In-Depth team with decades of expertise and award-winning writing in police, government, land and environmental issues. Mark and I have known Amy since 1985, when we all worked together at the Standard-Examiner in Ogden. Amy’s family lives in Weber County with their horses, chickens, Irish Wolfhounds and Jack the cat. 
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    • 51 min
    Jim Burton

    Jim Burton

    This time on The Media Scrum we speak with Jim Burton, longtime sports writer and columnist for the Standard-Examiner. Since leaving the Standard, Jim has dabbled in PR and marketing, and even did some editing at the Deseret News. But now he's enjoying work at El Monte golf course in Ogden. We sure enjoyed talking to our old friend, Jim, who definitely has some feelings and observations about journalism and where it’s at now.
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    Chris Carlson -- "9/11 with POTUS"

    Chris Carlson -- "9/11 with POTUS"

    This time on The Media Scrum we venture outside the Utah media bubble and speak with Chris Carlson, who worked in network-TV news for 42 years. As an ABC News cameraman in Washington, D.C., Carlson had a front-row seat to history. In covering Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump, Carlson logged scores of unique experiences. Over the decades he spent at the White House, Carlson witnessed many leaders of the "free world" from just 12 feet away, filming the nation’s political history as it was happening. After retiring three years ago, he has self-published an eBook, “9/11 with POTUS,” that’s available for purchase at your favorite online bookseller. We really enjoyed talking to Carlson, and we hope you enjoy listening.
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    • 1 hr 7 min
    Lori Buttars

    Lori Buttars

    This time on The Media Scrum we speak with Lori Buttars, longtime reporter for The Salt Lake Tribune. Lori covered the Olympics, arts and music, and all sorts of beats at the Trib. She’s also been a “visiting professional” at Utah State University where, like yours truly, she edited the student newspaper when she was a student there. Back in 2007, Lori fled journalism for public relations as public information officer for the Weber-Morgan Health Department. We actually spend a fair amount of this conversation talking about local public health's response to the coronavirus pandemic, which we found fascinating. We sure enjoyed talking to Lori, and we hope you enjoy listening. 
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    • 1 hr 12 min

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