The Mission Matters

The Mission Matters

The Mission Matters Podcast discusses the mission of God and the matters of the mission. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission. It's hosted by Matthew Ellison, president of Sixteen:Fifteen, and Ted Esler, president of Missio Nexus.

  1. MAR 25

    Iran's Underground Church: Growth, Persecution and Hope

    What is really happening inside Iran right now, and how should the Church respond?In this episode, Ted and Matthew sit down with Sasan Tavassoli, an Iranian pastor and leader who came to faith in Christ after being raised in a Shiite Muslim home. Now serving the Iranian underground church, Sassan shares firsthand insight into one of the most significant spiritual movements in the world today.Despite decades of oppression, suffering, and unrest, many Iranians are searching for truth—and encountering Jesus in powerful ways. This conversation is a needed reminder: God is at work in places we often overlook—and the Church must learn to listen before it speaks.The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.https://www.instagram.com/drsasantavassoli/?hl=enwww.youtube.com/@pastorsasanhttps://sasantavassoli.com/Chapters00:00 Intro01:34 Sassan’s journey from Islam to Christ05:01 Why many Iranians are disillusioned with the current regime08:30 The surprising growth of the underground church08:46 The role of media and discipleship in reaching a closed nation13:19 How Iranian believers view the current conflict18:58 What the global Church often misunderstands22:12 How we can pray, support, and stand with our brothers and sisters in Iran23:48 Challenges to the Iranian Church in a regime change28:21 How to get connect with Sasan

    32 min
  2. MAR 11

    Is God Calling Me? New Research on Missionary Motivation

    In this episode of the Mission Matters podcast, Ted and Matthew talk to Dave Jacob from Gospel Mobilization and Katy White from GoCorp. They unpack findings from the 2025 Launch Survey, a North American study of 2,400 new and aspiring missionaries. The survey explored what motivates people toward long-term missions and what barriers hold them back. Across generations, the strongest motivators were God’s guidance through Scripture and prayer, concern for the personal salvation of others, and the desire to use specific skills and gifts to meet practical needs. For Gen Z in particular, healthy teams and organizational culture mattered deeply.The most significant barrier across all generations was a lack of clear calling or direction, followed by role ambiguity and financial support concerns. Gen Z also expressed heightened concern about spiritual preparedness and loneliness. The conversation challenges churches to disciple young people early, clarify a biblical understanding of calling, and actively mentor those exploring missions. For mission agencies, the findings highlight the need for organizational health, transparency, strong team environments, and intentional spiritual formation throughout the mobilization pipeline.https://gospelmobilization.org/launchsurveyThe Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

    31 min
  3. FEB 25

    Addressing Sexual Brokenness in the Church and on the Mission Field

    Matthew Ellison and Ted Esler welcome Michele Okimura, founder of Explicit Movement, to discuss sexual integrity as a critical and often overlooked issue in global missions. Michele shares her background as a teacher, church planter, and nonprofit leader, and explains how her ministry equips youth, parents, church leaders, and missionaries to address topics that are frequently avoided, including pornography, sexual abuse, sex trafficking, gender and LGBTQ questions, healthy dating, and God’s design for sex within marriage. Central to her approach is grounding identity in Christ, creating safe and vulnerable spaces for healing, and providing practical tools that help the body of Christ walk in both grace and truth.The conversation highlights how sexual brokenness affects missionaries, church leaders, families, and entire communities worldwide, and why addressing root causes such as trauma, shame, and loneliness is essential for long-term freedom. Michele shares powerful testimonies of transformation among youth, pastors, and families, emphasizing that healing comes not only through accountability but through encountering God’s goodness and embracing His design. She also introduces her “Brave” and “Raven” curriculum series, developed for teens and schools in both faith-based and non-faith versions, which is gaining global interest as a platform for discipleship and prevention. The episode closes with a call for mission agencies and churches to cultivate cultures of wholeness, where leaders and members alike can pursue healing, joy, and holiness for the sake of the gospel.The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.Links: Joshua's 20 minute testimony: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/uu1z9epcvutlsseti0gf5/20-min-JOSHUA-KAINA-GENDER.mp4?rlkey=tmmks5nae1eb22qj50lhq2qow&st=k0q7ukx1&dl=0Michele on Sexuality in Missions on the Modern Day Missions Podcast: http://modernday.org/podcast/sexuality-in-missions-with-michele-okimura/Brave and Beautify book series:https://www.thebraveseries.com/Explicit Movement:https://www.explicitmovement.org/

    22 min
  4. FEB 11

    The Unknown Missionary: Gospel Advance Through Nameless Faithfulness

    Ted Esler and Matthew Ellison revisit the story of John Chau, seven years after his death on North Sentinel Island, through a conversation with Mary Ho, International Director of All Nations. Mary reflects on John’s extraordinary preparation, his calling to an uncontacted people group, and why his story captured global attention, noting factors like his youth, his nationality, and modern anxieties about colonialism and risk. She also challenges listeners not to fixate solely on John’s name, but to remember the countless unnamed believers worldwide who faithfully suffer, serve, and sometimes die in obscurity for the sake of the gospel.Drawing deeply from Acts 11 and Acts 13, Mary highlights the “no-namers” who helped birth the Antioch church and reminds listeners that the gospel has always advanced through ordinary, often forgotten men and women. She reframes risk as situational rather than conceptual, emphasizing that God calls specific people to specific risks at specific times, and that discernment must involve the individual, the sending church, and trusted leaders. Throughout the conversation, suffering is presented not as recklessness or failure, but as potential worship, a lived witness rooted in obedience and joy. The episode closes with a sobering yet hopeful call for believers to view witness not merely as something spoken, but as a whole-life testimony that may include sacrifice, suffering, and steadfast faithfulness to Christ.The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

    28 min
  5. JAN 28

    Missiology Translated : The Why and How For Mission Pastors

    In this episode of The Mission Matters, Matthew and Ted are joined by Bradley Bell, Executive Director of Upstream Equipping, to discuss Bradley and Ted's newly released book, Missiology for Mission Pastors.Written specifically for those leading missions within the local church, this book addresses a growing gap. Many missions pastors and directors find themselves in the role with deep passion but little formal missiological training. Rather than offering a dense academic textbook, this collaborative volume provides a gospel-centered, biblically grounded, and practically applicable framework for missions leadership.Bradley and Ted unpack why this book was needed now, how missions leaders are currently being formed, and why mobilization inside the local church is just as critical as engagement with the field. Drawing from diverse voices, including global perspectives, the book equips missions leaders to think clearly, act wisely, and steward their role faithfully.This conversation also explores the internal and external responsibilities of missions pastors, the role of lead pastors in shaping missions culture, and why mobilization should be viewed not as recruitment, but as an invitation into God’s redemptive story.The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

    31 min
  6. JAN 14

    Kingdom Partnership for the Tarahumara: Light Shine and Faith Bible Church

    The episode explores what Ted calls “third party partnerships,” a Kingdom model where ministries unite not for their own benefit but for the sake of a third party, illustrated through a deep collaboration to reach the Tarahumara people of northern Mexico. Chris Nickerson of Light Shine shares how their long term work among this hard to reach, historically hope starved indigenous group has grown into indigenous church planting, after school discipleship programs, leadership development, and a staff made up of both Tarahumara believers and Mexican church members. He explains Light Shine’s highly relational partnership model, where U.S. churches adopt a specific colonia as their primary mission field and Light Shine provides expertise, on the ground presence, and security wisdom in a cartel impacted region. Tonya Zunigha from Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma describes how coaching from 16:15 helped reorient their missions vision and led them into a long term partnership with Light Shine that offers accessible short term trips, meaningful engagement with a least reached people group, and extensive pre-trip discipleship. As families, elders, retirees, and children pray, give, and go together, missions has become central to Faith Bible’s DNA, reshaping their view of God, the nations, and their own calling, while Paul’s prayer that the word of God would “run swiftly” is seen fulfilled among a people known for their running.

    33 min
  7. 12/10/2025

    2025 Year-End Review: Highlights and Trends

    Matthew Ellison and Ted Esler close out the year on The Mission Matters podcast by reflecting on key missions trends in 2025 and their most-listened episodes. They revisit a controversial conversation on borders and immigration with Alex Kocman, an innovation-focused episode with Tyler Prieb of Missional Labs, and their highly viewed discussion with Mary Ho on the documentary The Other Side of the Mission and the ongoing debate about missions and colonialism. From there, they zoom out to examine the rising cost of discipleship, citing research that martyrdom is increasing again, especially in places like Nigeria, and argue that the church must recover a robust theology of risk rather than be ruled by safety. Matthew and Ted celebrate emerging collaboration and coalitions among churches, agencies, and funders, push back on simplistic narratives about a decline in missionary sending, and note the complexity created by thousands of small “micro-missions.” They close with hopeful signs of spiritual awakening among young people in the U.S. and the UK, looking ahead to Urbana 2025–26 and urging churches to become sending churches with “sending shepherds” ready to disciple and release a new generation to the nations.The Mission Matters Podcast is a place to talk about the importance of our Mission as Christians. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission.

    38 min
4.7
out of 5
13 Ratings

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The Mission Matters Podcast discusses the mission of God and the matters of the mission. The Mission Matters is a partnership of Missio Nexus and Sixteen:Fifteen, who have a shared passion to mobilize God’s people to be a part of His mission. It's hosted by Matthew Ellison, president of Sixteen:Fifteen, and Ted Esler, president of Missio Nexus.

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