In this week’s episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Trevor Cates, ND, to explore what it truly takes to build a sustainable and resilient business ecosystem in naturopathic medicine. Trevor has spent decades creating, refining, and rebuilding multiple business models, and her perspective is a refreshing blend of practicality and optimism. Together, they dig into the mindset required to grow something meaningful, how to navigate the inevitable challenges of entrepreneurship, and why relentless optimism is not naïve but a strategic advantage. Trevor shares the lessons she’s learned from scaling, pivoting, and leading through seasons of uncertainty, and how NDs can build businesses that feel aligned, adaptable, and durable. Whether someone is early in their career, deep into leadership, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers a wider lens for understanding their business and reconnecting with the possibilities inside their own ecosystem. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com ---- Dr. Trevor Cates is a naturopathic physician, bestselling author of Clean Skin From Within and Natural Beauty Reset, and the first woman licensed as a naturopathic doctor in California. With over 25 years of clinical experience, she pioneered an integrative approach to skin health that addresses root causes like hormone imbalances, gut health, and environmental toxins rather than just treating symptoms topically. Dr. Cates founded The Spa Dr., a natural skincare and supplement line that she successfully built and later sold. Her work has been featured on PBS, The Doctors, and Extra TV, among other outlets. Follow Dr. Trevor on Instagram ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram
