The ND Gap

Jordan Robertson

Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

  1. 5D AGO

    Why Betting on Yourself Matters Early in Practice with Dr. Nicole Edgar

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Nicole Edgar, ND, to talk about the mindset, strategy, and decision-making that shaped Nicole’s first five years in practice. Nicole shares how she transitioned from musculoskeletal care into menopause medicine, why niching helped her become more confident clinically, and the role mentorship and business investment played in accelerating her growth. Together, they unpack imposter syndrome, pricing, burnout, confidence, and what it really means to build a sustainable practice as a naturopathic doctor. This conversation also explores the importance of staying adaptable in medicine — being willing to change your mind, update your thinking, and continue evolving as new evidence emerges. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    39 min
  2. APR 30

    Hate Your Voice? You Still Need the Playback

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Jordan breaks down why listening back to your own work is one of the most uncomfortable and most important habits you can build. She shares how avoiding playback often means avoiding feedback, and how that keeps clinicians stuck in patterns they don’t even realize are affecting their impact. Jordan walks through what to actually listen for when you revisit your recordings, from clarity and structure, to tone, pacing, and presence and how small shifts in delivery can completely change how your message lands. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    38 min
  3. APR 23

    Mastering Social Media for Practice Growth: Insights from Dr. Alison Gottschalk

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Alison Gottschalk, ND, to break down the real strategy behind niching, building a personal brand, and using social media to grow a practice. Alison shares how she transitioned from working in chiropractic clinics to building a fully virtual practice and how leaning into content creation became the foundation of her growth. They unpack what it means to truly niche your practice, how to choose an area that’s both meaningful and sustainable, and why giving away high-quality information online actually builds more trust, not less. ---- Dr. Alison Gottschalk is a Naturopathic Doctor and Menopause Society Certified Practitioner based in Ontario, Canada. She provides evidence-informed healthcare virtually across Ontario, with a focus in women's health. She is also a social media content creator, providing educational videos on topics related to polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS).  Connect with Dr. Alison on TikTok and Instagram ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    43 min
  4. APR 16

    Breaking the Cycle: Motherhood and Success as a Naturopathic Doctor with Dr. Annaleeza Caputi

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Annaleeza Caputi, ND, to have an honest and vulnerable conversation about the realities of navigating early clinical practice alongside pregnancy, postpartum, and raising young children. Annaleeza shares her experience of becoming pregnant just months into practice, returning to work earlier than expected, and the emotional and logistical challenges of trying to balance financial pressure, professional ambition, and motherhood. Together, they unpack the duality that many clinicians feel but rarely talk about: the desire to be present as a parent while also wanting to pursue meaningful, ambitious work. This conversation explores the hidden pressures within the profession, the mindset shifts required to build resilience, and why investing in yourself even when you feel uncertain can change the trajectory of your career. ---- Dr. Annaleeza Caputi is a naturopathic doctor with a clinical focus in fertility, pregnancy, postpartum, and women's hormone health. She is passionate about providing evidence-based, integrative care that helps patients better understand their bodies and feel supported at every stage of their reproductive journey. Her work blends clinical research with compassionate, individualized treatment to address concerns such as PCOS, PMS/PMDD, menstrual cycle concerns, fertility and IVF support, and postpartum care. In addition to her clinical practice, Dr. Caputi is an educator, speaker, and advocate for advancing women’s health care through collaboration and accessible education. As a mother of twins, her personal experiences continue to shape her empathetic approach and commitment to helping patients feel informed, empowered, and supported. Connect with Dr. Annaleeza on Instagram ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    52 min
  5. APR 9

    Arrive By vs Leave Now

    In this solo episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson introduces a simple but powerful framework inspired by Apple Maps: “leave now” vs “arrive by.” She explores how clinicians often approach care as a “leave now” process, giving patients a plan and expecting progress over time, while patients are operating with an unspoken “arrive by” goal, expecting results within a specific (and often unrealistic) timeframe. This disconnect can lead to frustration, poor adherence, and patients feeling like care isn’t working even when it is. This episode is a practical shift in how to communicate strategy and how to better align patient expectations with clinical reality. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    31 min
  6. APR 2

    Leading Without Permission: Expanding the Role of NDs in Primary Care with Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod, ND and CEO of NutriChem Pharmacy, to explore what it takes to expand the role of naturopathic medicine within the broader healthcare system. From growing up inside an integrative pharmacy model to now leading a multidisciplinary team, Emma shares how collaboration between pharmacists, physicians, and naturopathic doctors can move from theory into practice. They discuss why NDs sometimes hold themselves back from entering collaborative spaces, how trust is built with other healthcare providers, and the mindset shift required to lead across professions. The conversation also explores the role of structure and leadership in scaling impact, and why clarity and confidence matter more than perfection. This is a conversation about stepping into rooms you already belong in and helping redefine what collaborative, patient-centred care can look like. ---- Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod, ND, is the CEO of NutriChem, an integrative health hub that uniquely brings together a naturopathic clinic and a compounding pharmacy under one roof. Since stepping into the CEO role, Emma has been leading the evolution of NutriChem’s 45-year legacy, honouring its foundation while setting a higher standard for modern integrative healthcare. Under her leadership, pharmacists and naturopathic doctors work side by side with a shared philosophy: we personalize your prevention. As a clinician, Dr. Emma specializes in perimenopause and menopause care. She is a Menopause Society Certified Practitioner, with a background in biochemistry and over a decade of clinical experience as a naturopathic doctor. With the combined perspective of being a clinician and married to a pharmacist, Emma is deeply committed to advancing evidence-informed integrative medicine that meaningfully improves long-term health outcomes. Discover NutriChem Connect with NutriChem on Instagram  Connect with Dr. Emma on Instagram ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    54 min
  7. MAR 26

    Think About Your Thinking: The Skill That Changes Everything

    In this solo episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson explores the concept of “thinking about your thinking” and why it’s one of the most important and underdeveloped skills in clinical practice. She breaks down how biases, early assumptions, and outdated beliefs can persist long after new evidence emerges, and why many clinicians struggle to fully let go of what they once believed. Through real-world examples, Jordan introduces the idea of a “factory reset” in clinical decision making, the ability to pause, reassess, and adopt new information without carrying forward old assumptions. This episode is a deep dive into cognitive flexibility, perspective-taking, and the personal development required to practice modern, evidence-informed medicine. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    37 min
  8. MAR 19

    The Missing Piece in Pediatric Health with Dr. Erika Krumbeck, ND

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Erika Krumbeck to explore what it actually looks like to practice in this space in a way that is both evidence-informed and realistic for families. They discuss the tension between ideal recommendations and what families can realistically implement, how treatment plans can unintentionally overwhelm parents, and why supporting the parent-child relationship is often more impactful than any intervention. The conversation also explores prevention, the language used around food and health, and how some common messaging in the profession may be contributing to unintended consequences. This is an honest and grounded discussion about pediatric care, not as it’s imagined, but as it actually shows up in practice. https://naturopathicpediatrics.com/ Connect with Dr. Krumbeck on LinkedIn Connect with Dr. Krumbeck on Instagram  ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    56 min

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Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

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