The New Abnormal

Sean Pillot de Chenecey
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The New Abnormal podcast (which has over 250,000 downloads) focuses on 'Now / Next / Why'. My guests have include a wide variety of experts based in locations from Los Angeles to Shanghai, Rio to Beirut, and Helsinki to Melbourne. Those guests have included activists, creatives, writers, philosophers, strategists, psychologists, lecturers, futurists etc, and asking them to explain their views has led to some fascinating conversations. Re: my bio, I'm a futurist, public speaker, and author whose written two books - my first went to No1 in the business charts whilst my second was shortlisted for the 'Business Book of the Year' Awards. (I'll be writing a third as soon as time allows.) So, I hope you enjoy listening to the series - which was set up during the early days of Covid and is therefore divided into a series per year.  All rights reserved. #TheNewAbnormal podcast series © Sean Pillot de Chenecey 2020. 

  1. Riel Miller 'Why futures literacy is so important today...'

    1D AGO

    Riel Miller 'Why futures literacy is so important today...'

    Series Six The episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast featured Riel Miller, who for over forty years has been co-creating innovation, leadership and transformation in both the public and private sectors around the world.  He pioneered the 'discipline of anticipation' as one of the leading tools for engaging in both research and capacity building around futures literacy, and is a highly experienced designer of processes for thinking about the future.  Riel is currently working with universities, governments, companies, and think tanks from around the world to introduce an anticipatory systems and processes approach to understanding the attributes and role of the future. He has been appointed a Senior Fellow at: Ecole des Ponts Business School (France); U. New Brunswick (Canada); NIFU (Norway); U. Witwatersrand (South Africa); Future Africa at U. Pretoria (South Africa), and East China Normal U. (China). He was formerly Head of Foresight and Futures Literacy at UNESCO in Paris, from 2012-2022.  In 1995 he joined the OECD in Paris to work in the International Futures Programme. In 2005 he founded an independent consultancy – xperidox (which means knowledge through experience) to advise clients on how to use the future more effectively .  Riel specialises in bringing decision makers to question the assumptions underlying current choices and exploring the potential of the present. Specific sectors inc: The future of money / Future of Schooling and Universities / Future of Cyberspace / Future of Technology / and Future of Governance. So, we discuss the above in what I hope you'll agree is a fascinating interview!

    48 min
  2. Jost Wagner 'Countering the Futures-Thieves'

    2D AGO

    Jost Wagner 'Countering the Futures-Thieves'

    Series Six This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Jost Wagner, Managing Director of The Change Initiative and Executive Director of the Asia-Pacific Futures Network, the largest network of futurists in the region.  Over the last 20 years, he's designed and facilitated over 600 workshops and conferences worldwide for organisations such as the Asian Development Bank, United Nations, World Bank, USAID, GTZ (now GIZ), DFAT, five German political foundations, a number of international NGOs such as Oxfam, Plan, WWF, etc.  In this interview, we discuss all of the above, along with his latest article for Compass magazine c/o the Association for Professional Futurists, where he writes about his belief in the urgent need for long-term thinking and action - to counter the futures-thieves that rob others (especially future generations or marginalised groups) of the opportunity to shape or benefit from desirable futures...

    48 min
  3. Jan Berger 'How to steer organisations towards better futures'

    12/19/2025

    Jan Berger 'How to steer organisations towards better futures'

    Series Five This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Jan Berger, who advises business leaders on how to steer their companies towards a profitable future. He's the Founder & CEO of the renowned Themis Foresight in Berlin, which he founded to anticipate the economic, technological, social and political drivers of future change. The team at Themis are driven by the conviction that outstanding futures research is the crucial key to success for the strategic direction of Europe's economic and entrepreneurial elite.  They bring the results of this research to corporate clients via foresight, scenarios, roadmaps, and strategic design.   Jan is also President of the World Futures Studies Federation, the independent global peak body for Futures Studies Scholarship, an NGO and UNESCO partner founded in 1973. It operates as a global network of practicing futurists, including researchers, teachers, scholars, policy analysts, activists and others from approximately 60 countries.  In our conversation, we discuss all of the above, during which Jan also covers a fascinating and incredibly ambitious initiative in which he's currently involved: 'The Industrial Renaissance Project'.  So, I hope you enjoy listening to his viewpoints as much as I did!

    52 min
  4. Stephen Dupont 'Anticipating Change re: Opportunities and Risks'

    12/14/2025

    Stephen Dupont 'Anticipating Change re: Opportunities and Risks'

    Series Five This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Stephen Dupont, Principal at Dupont Foresight, who brings a futures mindset to marketing/communications planning and strategy. He also serves on the board of the nonprofit 'Teach the Future' and is a Future Fellow of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP). Stephen's expertise in foresight helps clients anticipate change – to see around corners, grab opportunities and avoid risks. Based in the US, he helps organisations communicate their visions of the future, by leveraging foresight tools to help leaders make smarter decisions.  He's also editor of Compass, the quarterly magazine of the Association of Professional Futurists (APF). Stephen has also had more than 50 of his articles published about marketing, communications, foresight, future trends, creativity, content marketing, writing, and more over the past few years. Over his career, his work has also been honoured with over 50 awards.  We discuss all of the above, along with his feedback on the latest annual Dubai Future Forum. So, I hope you enjoy listening to Stephen as much as I did!

    48 min
  5. Erik Ostergaard 'Futures Thinking and Anticipatory Leadership'

    12/13/2025

    Erik Ostergaard 'Futures Thinking and Anticipatory Leadership'

    Series Five This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Erik Korsvik Ostergaard, who is a futures-thinker and strategic foresight consultant.  He uses futures-thinking to be curious about current and coming trends, and to turn them into strategies. He focuses on transformation and the future of work, leadership, and collaboration; with a particular focus on the Life Science and Healthcare domains. Erik is also the author of "The Responsive Leader", "Teal Dots in an Orange World", and the newly published "Anticipatory Leadership". He’s also written articles for Thinkers50, Børsen, the Global Peter Drucker Forum, Fair Observer, India CSR, CEO World, Thrive - and others. In this interview, we discuss all of the above, and along the way, Erik also outlines some of the issues on which he lectured at the renowned Copenhagen Business School for over a decade. So…enjoy!

    37 min
  6. Isabella Hermann 'Sci-fi re: New Technologies and Socio-Political Value Systems'

    12/11/2025

    Isabella Hermann 'Sci-fi re: New Technologies and Socio-Political Value Systems'

    Series Five This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Dr Isabella Hermann, a political scientist who analyses and speaks on the subject of science-fiction. She focuses particularly on how the genre reflects emerging technologies, socio-political value systems, and global politics. This includes various topics like artificial intelligence and robotics, climate change and Mars colonization, as well as mobility and education and many more.  Isabella believes that essentially, science fiction provides a “commentary on the present from the future” on every issue that concerns us today. The narratives oscillating between the realistically imaginable and the metaphorical, offering two distinct levels of interpretation. This, she thinks, is what makes the genre so compelling and relevant for our current times. So, I hope you enjoy listening to her views in this wide-ranging discussion as much as I did!

    44 min
  7. Cynthia Scharf 'Climate Tech - The Technologies of Desperation'

    12/05/2025

    Cynthia Scharf 'Climate Tech - The Technologies of Desperation'

    Series Five  This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Cynthia Scharf, a Senior Fellow at the Centre for Future Generations, a European think tank, leading their work on Climate Interventions. Issue of trust, global equity, behavioural psychology, archetypes and narrative are key to their  work. She served as the senior strategy director for the Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative prior to the CFG, which focused on kickstarting international governance for solar geoengineering and large-scale carbon removals. Cynthia previously served as head of strategic comms and chief speechwriter on climate change for UN Secretary-General before, during and after the Paris Agreement.  Previously to her work on climate change, Cynthia worked for the UN and international NGOs on global humanitarian emergencies. She began her career as a journalist in Moscow in the early 1990s covering the collapse of the communist system in the former USSR and Eastern Europe. Her articles on climate change and geopolitics have been published in major newspapers across the globe.  She's a deeply interesting individual, so we discuss all of the above and more, in what I hope you'll find to be a fascinating conversation.

    49 min
  8. Diana Stafie "Don't wait for the future - actively create it"

    12/03/2025

    Diana Stafie "Don't wait for the future - actively create it"

    Series Five  This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Diana Stafie, founder of Future Station, the renowned strategic foresight consultancy that empowers organizations to navigate change, identify emerging trends, foster innovation, and effectively prepare for the future. Future Station specializes in guiding companies through scenarios-based strategic planning processes and equipping teams with the necessary skills to thrive in evolving realities. Their diverse client portfolio spans industries such as retail, telecom, banking, manufacturing, FMCG, and real estate, but also NGOs and public institutions. In addition to her role as a strategic foresight consultant, Diana actively engages in research projects and contribute to various think tank groups focused on future topics. She's passionate about sharing her insights and regularly contributes articles and interviews on Foresight, Trends, and Exponential Technologies to business publications. So, we discuss all of the above and more, in a discussion that also includes her impressions of the activity at, and the outputs from, the latest Dubai Future Forum.

    51 min
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The New Abnormal podcast (which has over 250,000 downloads) focuses on 'Now / Next / Why'. My guests have include a wide variety of experts based in locations from Los Angeles to Shanghai, Rio to Beirut, and Helsinki to Melbourne. Those guests have included activists, creatives, writers, philosophers, strategists, psychologists, lecturers, futurists etc, and asking them to explain their views has led to some fascinating conversations. Re: my bio, I'm a futurist, public speaker, and author whose written two books - my first went to No1 in the business charts whilst my second was shortlisted for the 'Business Book of the Year' Awards. (I'll be writing a third as soon as time allows.) So, I hope you enjoy listening to the series - which was set up during the early days of Covid and is therefore divided into a series per year.  All rights reserved. #TheNewAbnormal podcast series © Sean Pillot de Chenecey 2020. 

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  • Creator
    Sean Pillot de Chenecey
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2026
  • Episodes
    207
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    © 2026 The New Abnormal
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