The New Automation Mindset: AI + Automation + Integration

Workato
The New Automation Mindset: AI + Automation + Integration

Welcome to "The New Automation Mindset: AI + Automation + Integration," a groundbreaking podcast series by Workato. On this show, we bring you real-world stories of business efficiency, agility, growth, and transformation from executive leaders in the industry. In each episode, we dive deep into the minds of top-level executives who have successfully embraced automation to work faster, smarter, and more securely without compromising governance. From Fortune 500 companies to innovative startups, we explore the strategies, challenges, and triumphs of these forward-thinking leaders.Hear firsthand accounts of how automation has revolutionized their organizations, enabling them to unlock new levels of productivity, drive innovation, and fuel business growth. Gain valuable insights on navigating AI, digital transformation, streamlining workflows, integrating systems, and optimizing processes to achieve seamless operations across your enterprise.We believe that automation is not just a technology but a mindset. Join us on "The New Automation Mindset" – a leadership blueprint to reshape your organization for success in the digital age.

  1. How Canon’s AI Committee Is Scaling Automation and Driving Organizational Change

    14H AGO

    How Canon’s AI Committee Is Scaling Automation and Driving Organizational Change

    In this episode, Markus sits down with Michael Lebron, Head of Digital Applications and Shared Services at Canon, to discuss how Canon is integrating Generative AI into its operations through a cross-functional committee focused on intelligent automation. Drawing from his experience leading enterprise architecture and innovation initiatives, Michael shares how the committee evolved from addressing AI-related risks to enabling productivity, creativity, and scale across departments. From upskilling employees and securing executive buy-in to deploying AI agents for process automation, this episode provides a practical blueprint for enterprise leaders looking to operationalize AI in a secure, scalable, and value-driven way. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 02:40 Canon's Gen AI Committee 06:25 Moving past a fear mindset 11:55 A spotlight on technologists 14:45 AI Integrated 22:20 The massive unlock with unstructured data 28:45 Analyzing the ROI of AI implementation 32:10 How these tools are democratizing knowledge across organizations 39:35 Is fear holding us back? 43:25 Michael's advice Episode Key TakeawaysExecutive alignment is non-negotiable: Success with GenAI starts at the top. Canon’s committee model shows that broad adoption and cultural change only happen when executive leadership actively champions the vision.Democratization drives enterprise scale: GenAI lowers the barrier to technical innovation, enabling non-technical staff to ideate, experiment, and contribute. This shift is redefining what it means to be “digital ready” in the enterprise.Education eliminates fear: Resistance to AI often stems from a lack of understanding. Canon's emphasis on hands-on training, internal advocacy, and use-case transparency helps mitigate fear and build enterprise readiness.Top Quotes"When we started the AI committee, it wasn’t just to control risks, it was to unlock productivity and creativity while protecting the company. We built policies not to suppress, but to encourage innovation safely. That balance of governance and enablement has been critical to our success." "Generative AI is removing barriers to innovation. You no longer need to be a seasoned developer to build real applications or automate business tasks. It’s democratizing expertise, allowing people with curiosity, not just technical skill, to drive transformation." "This isn’t just about deploying tools. It’s a shift in DNA, in how we work and think. From executive strategy down to individual workflows, every function at Canon is now evaluating how AI can enhance efficiency and customer experience. It’s a complete cultural evolution."

    48 min
  2. AT&T’s John Miller on Transforming a Legacy Telco to Deepen Customer Connection

    JUN 11

    AT&T’s John Miller on Transforming a Legacy Telco to Deepen Customer Connection

    In this episode, Markus sits down with John Miller, VP of Consumer and Retail Solutions at AT&T, to explore how one of the world’s largest telecom companies is using AI agents and LLMs to enhance service delivery and modernize operations. John explains how his team deployed the very first GPT-style interface implemented across AT&T and how it is empowering employees throughout the organization. He also shares AT&T’s strategy for evolving from traditional workflow logic to asynchronous, agent-driven interactions that better mirror customer behavior. From managing petabytes of unstructured data to wrapping legacy mainframes with AI interfaces, John provides actionable insights for any enterprise looking to embrace generative AI. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 03:00 A broad overview of how AT&T is leveraging AI 06:15 The best solution for scale  09:30 Reshaping workflows to better serve customers 15:20 How to design your org's AI agents 20:55 Different models for different tasks 22:50 Empathizing with your customers  29:35 Tackling legacy systems one step at a time 35:55 The data problem 44:15 Advice for others beginning their journey Episode Key TakeawaysLegacy systems don’t have to be a blocker: AT&T is proving that even decades-old mainframes can be modernized by “wrapping” them with AI agents. This approach enables gradual transformation without disrupting end users or retraining staff.Perfect data isn’t a prerequisite: Instead of waiting to clean every dataset, AT&T uses AI to surface and correct data quality issues in real-time. This lets them move fast while improving data fidelity through use.Empathy matters in AI adoption: User trust and satisfaction rise when AI interactions mimic natural human communication. AT&T saw measurable improvements by designing agents that pause, clarify, and respond with warmth.AI success is iterative, not linear: AT&T's most effective agents didn’t launch fully formed. They evolved through constant prompt tuning, testing, and feedback. Treat agents like teammates who learn and improve over time.Top Quotes“For companies trying to wait until they have perfect data, you’ll never have perfect data. So it’s better to just start. Even with imperfect data, you can begin to see meaningful trends and value, especially when your AI tools are designed to adapt and refine based on real-time feedback.” “We’re wrapping legacy systems like a python [by] slowly squeezing out functionality until they’re obsolete. This approach lets us modernize without disruption, giving employees a seamless experience while we replace backend systems incrementally. Over time, those old systems just quietly phase out.” “AI lets you break the traditional workflow logic. Now we meet customers wherever they are in their journey, instead of forcing them through a rigid sequence. It’s a shift from thinking about linear steps to enabling outcomes through flexible, asynchronous interactions.”

    52 min
  3. Reltio CEO on the Role of Data and Processes in the Agentic Future

    JUN 4

    Reltio CEO on the Role of Data and Processes in the Agentic Future

    In this episode, Markus sits down with Manish Sood, CEO, Founder, and Chairman of Reltio, to explore how enterprises can modernize their architecture through data unification, intelligent automation, and AI readiness. Drawing on Manish’s experience building cloud-native platforms and enabling data-driven transformation, they unpack the evolution of Master Data Management (MDM) and the critical need for an API-first, process-oriented approach. From breaking down data silos and improving data quality to leveraging AI agents and automating business workflows with tools like Reltio and Workato, this episode offers a strategic lens for leaders looking to future-proof their operations in an increasingly AI-powered landscape. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 03:14 Founding vision and evolution of Reltio 09:36 API-first approach and data unification 14:13 The role of AI in modern business processes 19:13 Driving business transformation through integration 22:43 Future of applications and data strategy 28:08 How GenAI is affecting data quality 33:10 Envisioning the AI-driven center of excellence Episode Key TakeawaysUnify data to unlock its full value: Siloed systems hold back AI progress. An API-first approach and the use of entity graphs help organizations bring together data from multiple sources. When data is unified and accessible, it becomes far more valuable for business and AI applications.Let AI do the heavy lifting on data quality: Most tools highlight data issues but don’t fix them. AI can go further by cleaning, disambiguating, and enriching data from unstructured sources. This keeps data accurate, reliable, and ready for action.Think in processes, not schemas: Rigid data models limit agility. A process-oriented mindset helps integrate workflows across departments, increasing flexibility and speed. Tools like Reltio and Workato can help streamline these integrations.Prepare for an AI-first application future: Applications are moving toward prompt-based and AI-driven interactions. Businesses should start getting their data ready and automating key processes. Those who do will be better positioned to compete in an AI-powered world.Top Quotes"That is the benefit of hindsight. Having been through the experience, having looked at the previous generation of technologies and capabilities. When I started Reltio in 2011, the core thesis that informed the foundation was the fact that companies, enterprises in particular, will continue to see an explosion in applications and therefore data silos.” “I've never heard a business owner say they want to move slower. Everybody wants to move faster. Every business process, if they were able to do something in 30 days, they want to now do it in seven days. If they were able to do it in seven days, they want to do it in seven minutes. If they were able to do the same thing in seven minutes, they want to go down to seconds or milliseconds. And that's the natural progression that we will continue to see, where every business process needs to execute in a shorter timeframe, faster, without human intervention. And this is where agentic comes in.” “Just by inserting AI in the middle of that business process, nobody is going to say that now, instead of a hundred, a thousand milliseconds is okay. In fact, the insertion of AI, the whole purpose of AI being inserted in the middle, is to make it faster. So when you think about that, the data that informs those decisions has to be available as the, always on, always accessible, fastest-moving piece of the entire puzzle so that you can get to that leverage, you can get to that business outcome in a shorter timeframe.” “Applications will not exist in the manner we know of them today. We have to think about data differently where we have to not only think of it as a strategic asset, core data that runs your business being available at every given point in time for any business process, any decision that needs to be made, or any analytical process that needs to be informed with it. And this bridge or divide between analytical and operational will disappear because it's the same information that needs to be used in both places.” “The tools today measure the quality of data, but they don't fix it. The remediation of that data also has to happen in parallel, and that remediation can be done by agentic capabilities. And especially now, doing some of the research that a human would do before, go out research certain detail, bring that back, validate certain pieces of information. All of those things can be automated through agentic capabilities. And that's how we are looking at the continuum, the entire lifecycle of data. All the way from sourcing to consumption, so that we can address all the lifecycle gaps in the middle and enhance the quality or the trust in the data, and then make it available for consumption across the enterprise.”

    38 min
  4. Bain's Michael Heric is Bridging Innovation and Tradition in Automation

    MAY 21

    Bain's Michael Heric is Bridging Innovation and Tradition in Automation

    In this episode, Markus sits down with Michael Heric, Senior Partner at Bain & Company and leader of Bain’s global automation capabilities, to explore how enterprise automation has evolved from traditional RPA to the era of Generative AI and intelligent agents. With 25 years of industry insight, Michael shares a compelling roadmap for leveraging automation at scale, drawing from real-world client experiences and internal Bain initiatives. From the early challenges of BPR to the promises and pitfalls of AI adoption today, this episode offers a grounded, strategic perspective for enterprise leaders navigating digital transformation.  Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 02:45 History of workplace automation 06:00 Finding the right tool at the right time 13:35 Change management at scale 16:15 Who ends up implementing these new toolsets? 18:20 Challenges and success stories from real organizations 21:45 Getting ROI by learning from the past 24:10 Some underrated use cases for LLMs 26:50 Putting trust in GenAI toolsets 29:20 Are organizations ready from a data perspective? 32:45 Adapting at the same rate the world is changing 40:05 Leveraging AI to create better products  44:20 Conclusion and final thoughts Episode Key TakeawaysThe opportunity still exists in the back office: Despite clear value potential, finance, HR, and legal remain under-automated due to data, trust, and auditability concerns. These areas are poised for transformation with the right approach.Success depends on sticking with it: Many organizations fail not because their data or ideas were worse, but because they gave up too early. The companies winning with AI are the ones that iterate and persevere.Apply innovation where you have gaps: Don’t waste generative AI on processes that already work with existing automation. Focus on "white space" opportunities—areas where older tools failed or never reached.Use the right tool for the job: Traditional automation (like RPA) still delivers value in structured, rule-based tasks, while AI agents excel in dynamic, ambiguous environments like customer service and sales.Top Quote"Doing business process redesign, even doing some of these large ERP implementations…the world is moving so fast, these business processes are changing. By the time you’re done with the redesign, the world’s already moved past it. So you're constantly multiple steps behind. And I think now we're finally getting to a spot where technology can be flexible enough to adapt at the same rate the world is changing."

    47 min
  5. TechPACT’s Mission to Increase Representation and Reduce the Digital Divide

    MAY 14

    TechPACT’s Mission to Increase Representation and Reduce the Digital Divide

    In this episode, Markus Zirn, Michael Smith, and Earl Newsome discuss their collaborative work on the TechPACT, a collective initiative focused on advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion in the tech industry. The TechPACT aims to bridge the digital divide and elevate underrepresented voices in technology. Michael and Earl share how the “plus one” mindset helps members take small, daily actions to promote inclusion, and they offer practical ways tech leaders can commit to equitable hiring and mentorship. They also address the rising backlash against DEI initiatives, offering strategies to navigate resistance while continuing to drive meaningful change. Lastly, they discuss responsible AI adoption, the power of allyship, and building a more inclusive future in tech. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 04:50 Founding the TechPACT 08:20 The TechPACT's vision and mission 11:55 What levers are required for change 17:00 Importance of Inclusion 18:45 The TechPACT's impact 30:30 DEI in 2025: Addressing backlash and navigating forward 37:00 AI and its impact on diversity 46:00 Call to action for IT executives Episode Key TakeawaysSupport the mission of TechPACT: Join the movement to close the digital divide by getting involved with TechPACT. Visit techpact.org, take the pledge, and share it with your network. You can also volunteer your time, skills, or resources to help drive representation and access in tech.Incorporate “Plus One” into your routine: Build inclusivity into your daily habits by adding one intentional action that broadens your perspective. That could mean reading a book from a different cultural lens, connecting with someone outside your usual circle, or expanding your candidate pool during hiring. Small, consistent steps can lead to lasting change.Standardize diverse hiring practices: Make it a norm to interview a diverse slate of candidates before making any hiring decisions. This not only supports equity and inclusion, it also helps you access a broader, stronger talent pool by widening the lens on what great looks like.Tackle AI bias and prepare for the future: Audit your AI tools for bias and make sure they’re built with fairness in mind. Invest in training your team for emerging roles like “AI artists” and “prompt engineers.” Encourage collaboration between humans and AI to spark exponential innovation, not just automation.Top Quote“ To really serve your consumers, you have to have a deep, deep level of empathy. And the great, especially the innovative companies, they anticipate needs sometimes before the consumer themselves anticipates those needs, and the way you do that is by bringing diverse perspectives to the table. And those diverse perspectives can come from all types of diversity, right? Sometimes it can be the things you see on the surface, like gender or race, but it can also be industry knowledge. But bringing those diverse perspectives to the table is where it starts.” - Michael Smith “ Diversity is being invited to the dance, right? Inclusion is being asked to dance, right? Equity is having access to the dance floor. That's all equity is giving you access to get on the dance floor. There's a ramp there for you, if you need that. But belonging is wanting to dance if no one's looking at you. And so if we can really unlock the power of belonging in our organizations and we can then earn that discretionary effort of all our employees. If people feel as though they don't belong, and we've all had that feeling, we've been in places where we feel we don't belong. You're not gonna earn any extra effort from me. You're not gonna earn the power of my diverse background. But if I feel as though if I belong and I'm dancing as if no one's looking at me, then you're gonna earn my discretionary effort, which is gonna lead to amazing, extraordinary outcomes.” - Earl Newsome

    50 min
  6. H&M’s Head of Integration is Making IT More Agile with APIs

    MAY 7

    H&M’s Head of Integration is Making IT More Agile with APIs

    In this episode, Markus Zirn and Ramak Robinson explore the power of digital transformation through the evolution of APIs. Ramak shares how H&M built a robust integration framework with over 600 APIs and 500 events, driving the organization toward a more modern, agile IT landscape. They dive into the strategic shift toward composable and event-driven architectures, the lessons learned in fostering business-IT collaboration, and the role of modularity in streamlining operations. Ramak also offers insights into the future of IT, from AI-driven orchestration to business process automation, and how organizations can stay ahead in an ever-changing digital world. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 02:50 Ramak's journey at H&M 05:55 Impact of APIs on integration and enterprise architecture 12:15 Role of orchestration in composable architecture 17:50 Levels of orchestration 20:00 Business and IT collaboration: A cultural shift 24:05 Navigating digital transformation and lessons learned 30:20 Do your APIs provide business value? 32:30 Choosing where and when to go composable 38:15 The future of AI and orchestration Episode Key TakeawaysKeep control in decentralized environments: Shifting from a centralized to a decentralized model doesn’t mean losing governance. Establish clear guidelines and oversight to keep teams aligned on best practices like API first design. This ensures consistency, quality, and seamless integration across your ecosystem.Define your data models early: A strong data governance framework is key to building valuable APIs. Know how core data entities such as products, customers, and orders are structured. This clarity improves API design, boosts reusability, and simplifies integration across systems.Be strategic about composability: Don’t try to apply composability everywhere at once. Start where it makes the biggest impact in high change, high reuse areas. A focused approach helps prove value quickly, making it easier to scale success across the organization.Automate governance for seamless compliance: Instead of relying on documentation alone, build compliance into your development pipelines. Automated checks for naming conventions, data models, and best practices help teams stay on track without slowing them down.Top Quote“ I really think orchestration automation is the future if we want to have faster time to market and we want to deliver the outcome that we are set for. So also looking at the type of platforms to support us also is very super crucial. And what I'm excited about is that composability and modularity is now kind of part of our tech strategy, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how we can bring that to life.”

    43 min
  7. Co Valere’s Chief Architect & CEO Says Agility Is Fundamental in Today’s Enterprise

    APR 23

    Co Valere’s Chief Architect & CEO Says Agility Is Fundamental in Today’s Enterprise

    In this episode, Markus Zirn and Junior Brandt explore the evolving role of enterprise architecture in today’s business landscape. Junior shares how architects are adapting to new challenges, including the shift from monolithic ERP systems to composable architecture. They discuss the impact of COVID-19, the growing need for automation tools like Workato, and how AI is reshaping the enterprise architect’s mindset. Junior also addresses the challenges faced by traditional architects and how embracing new technologies can create opportunities for more agile, integrated IT landscapes. Timestamps00:00 Episode Start 03:20 The enterprise architect's mindset 08:15 Key trends shaping enterprise architecture 12:45 COVID-19's impact on enterprise architecture 18:50 Composable architecture & the evolving tech landscape 27:55 Building a unified integration platform 32:30 RPA's impact on enterprise architecture 38:00 Breaking down concerns in adopting composable architecture 46:00 GenAI in enterprise architecture Episode Key TakeawaysEmbrace composability for more flexibility: Break down big, rigid systems and try composable architecture where it can really make a difference. Focus on high-change, high-reuse areas to quickly prove the impact, and then expand from there.Integrate AI for quick wins: Start adding AI into workflows where it can make an immediate impact, like customer interactions. These small wins will build organizational confidence in AI and pave the way for broader AI integration.Make integration easier with unified platforms: Adpot unified integration platforms to reduce the complexity of connecting modern and legacy systems. This streamlines your architecture and ensures faster, more efficient system integration.Balance agility with good governance: Set up clear guidelines that let you innovate quickly, but maintain security and control. Focus on developing policies for low-code environments to keep systems secure and compliant without stifling progress.Top Quote“ I would argue in today's day and age, which company could really say that speed isn't a challenge? The ability to adapt and that agility is just fundamental for participating in an active economy today.”

    55 min
  8. The CIO of Daimler Truck Believes IT is Central to Driving Transformations

    APR 16

    The CIO of Daimler Truck Believes IT is Central to Driving Transformations

    In this episode, Markus Zirn and Lutz Beck explore how GenAI and data management are transforming the truck industry and boosting operational efficiency. Lutz shares his experiences from Mitsubishi Fuso to Daimler Truck, highlighting the integration of GenAI and connected technologies. They discuss the growing role of AI agents in automating business processes, improving operational efficiency, and enhancing customer service. Lutz also offers practical insights on managing legacy systems, leveraging data for innovation, and preparing for a future driven by AI and automation. Timestamps 00:00 Episode Start 03:20 Understanding the truck Industry 06:35 Modernizing legacy systems 11:00 Integrating with legacy systems 18:45 The power of quality data 21:15  Leveraging AI for operational efficiency 27:25 Impact of AI agents 36:50 Building strong data foundations with AI agents Episode Key Takeaways Focus on solid data management: Get your data practices in shape with strong governance, quality checks, and clear protocols for sharing. Make sure to educate your team on data security to keep sensitive info safe. Use AI agents to boost efficiency: Bring in AI agents to handle routine IT and customer service tasks. Set up a system where agents work together smoothly. Think AI-powered helpdesks that can manage simple questions, letting human agents focus on more complicated issues. Update legacy systems with care: Take a close look at your old IT systems and explore how to upgrade or replace them with more modern, scalable solutions. Don’t just automate outdated processes, think about ways to simplify and enhance them. Align IT with Business Goals: Build a strong partnership between your IT and business teams. Make sure your IT projects are aligned with what the business needs, helping streamline operations and add value for customers like using AI in HR to speed up recruitment and data entry, giving employees more time for strategic work. Top Quote “ Data is, for me, the key asset of a company and the data gives you the power to be intelligent as a company. You just need to learn to use it.”

    49 min

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Welcome to "The New Automation Mindset: AI + Automation + Integration," a groundbreaking podcast series by Workato. On this show, we bring you real-world stories of business efficiency, agility, growth, and transformation from executive leaders in the industry. In each episode, we dive deep into the minds of top-level executives who have successfully embraced automation to work faster, smarter, and more securely without compromising governance. From Fortune 500 companies to innovative startups, we explore the strategies, challenges, and triumphs of these forward-thinking leaders.Hear firsthand accounts of how automation has revolutionized their organizations, enabling them to unlock new levels of productivity, drive innovation, and fuel business growth. Gain valuable insights on navigating AI, digital transformation, streamlining workflows, integrating systems, and optimizing processes to achieve seamless operations across your enterprise.We believe that automation is not just a technology but a mindset. Join us on "The New Automation Mindset" – a leadership blueprint to reshape your organization for success in the digital age.

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