The Ordinary Elite

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Solicitor Advocates John McGovern and Mike Dailly discuss the topical issues and stories of the week from Scotland and further afield. Politics, law, culture, and much more.

  1. The Ordinary Elite - E6 - With Paul Sweeney MSP on the Union Street fire

    MAR 24

    The Ordinary Elite - E6 - With Paul Sweeney MSP on the Union Street fire

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 6 of Season 5 we speak with Paul Sweeney MSP about the recent fire which destroyed 175 years of Glasgow's history and cultural heritage on Union Street and closed down Central Station for many days. How can we prevent such disasters happening again and how can we restore Union Street to its former grandeur?

    1h 3m
  2. The Ordinary Elite - E5 - 'Upside-Down Love' with Sari Bashi

    MAR 3

    The Ordinary Elite - E5 - 'Upside-Down Love' with Sari Bashi

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 5 of Season 5 we meet Sari Bashi an Israeli-American human rights lawyer who petitions Israel's Supreme Court for her Palestinian client's right to travel freely. When the case began, neither expected to fall in love -and when it was over, nobody expected their love to endure. We discuss Sari's inspiring book and the realities of life in Israel and Palestine. You can purchase Upside-Down Love here.

    51 min
  3. The Ordinary Elite - E4 - Independent Investigation into NHS Scotland

    FEB 18

    The Ordinary Elite - E4 - Independent Investigation into NHS Scotland

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 3 of Season 5 we discuss the independent review of NHS Scotland written by consultant surgeon, Mr Mike McKirdy, former President of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow. While we now have 20% more doctors and 15% more nurses in Scotland waiting lists and access times have become much longer. There are now 600,000 people in Scotland - 1 in 9 Scots - currently waiting to access some type treatment from NHS Scotland. It used to take NHS 24 9 seconds to answer a call in Scotland. It now takes 23 minutes on average. What needs to happen to get back on track for patients in Scotland?

    53 min
  4. The Ordinary Elite - E3 - The Fraud with Paul Holden

    FEB 6

    The Ordinary Elite - E3 - The Fraud with Paul Holden

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 3 of Season 5 we discuss Paul Holden's new book. The Fraud shows how Keir Starmer has been the frontman for a ruthless, right-wing political project headed by Morgan McSweeney, now chief of staff in Number 10 and arguably the most powerful man in Britain. McSweeney guided Starmer to the Labour leadership on a platform that Starmer, once in office, almost instantly betrayed. Having conquered the party on false pretences, McSweeney and his allies set about purging opponents, marginalising the membership, and dragging party policy to the right. This is a sordid tale that includes hacked emails, anonymous smears, dodgy dossiers, cynical stitch-ups, and staggering hypocrisy. Paul's book is available to buy here.

    1h 1m
  5. The Ordinary Elite - E2 - What Future for Iran?

    FEB 3

    The Ordinary Elite - E2 - What Future for Iran?

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 2 of Season 5 we consider the recent mass protests and political unrest in Iran. We speak with Kate Phillips. Kate is a retired international development worker previously based in the University of Glasgow. During a varied working life she prepared women to stand in democratic elections in Iraq, supported African women to take part in the World Women’s Conference in Beijing, get elected to and steer rights legislation through their parliaments. Kate researched the situation of girls indentured to factories in the Pearl River Delta in China, strengthened opposition movements in Iran, and trained trade unionists from many countries including Trinidad and Jamaica. With Iran due to enter into negotiations with the USA in Istanbul on Friday 6 February 2026, we ask what future for the people of Iran?

    45 min
  6. The Ordinary Elite - E1 - With Scott Wortley

    JAN 8

    The Ordinary Elite - E1 - With Scott Wortley

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 1 of Season 5, we chat with Scott Wortley a lecturer at Edinburgh University's Law School. Scott has a particular interest and expertise in drafting legislation and statutory interpretation and has worked with the Scottish Law Commission and been an adviser to the Scottish Parliament's Justice Committee, as well as having qualified as a Scottish solicitor. We examine the quality of legislative drafting in Scotland and consider some of the high profile law reform problems that have arisen over the last few years.

    1h 4m
  7. The Ordinary Elite - E13 - The Year in Review

    12/31/2025

    The Ordinary Elite - E13 - The Year in Review

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our final episode of Season 4, we provide some reflection and thoughts on Hogmanay of the shows we've done during 2025. We hope you will enjoy. We would like to wish all of our guests and listeners good health and a very happy new year when it comes at the bells.

    1h 9m
  8. The Ordinary Elite - E12 - Why do politicians hate juries?

    12/17/2025

    The Ordinary Elite - E12 - Why do politicians hate juries?

    The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 12th episode of Season 4, we're joined by Dean M Thomson, a lecturer in logic and philosophy with Beijing Normal - Hong Kong Baptist University, United International College (UIC). Dean has written an essay entitled, "Why Labour Hates Juries: The Unmanageable Heart of English Liberty". We examine Labour's longstanding desire to abolish trial by jury in England and Wales - which is also an issue that many MSPs at Holyrood appear to favour too. We ask why do our politicians hate juries?

    46 min
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Solicitor Advocates John McGovern and Mike Dailly discuss the topical issues and stories of the week from Scotland and further afield. Politics, law, culture, and much more.

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  • Creator
    The Ordinary Elite
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    74
  • Rating
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