The Play Base

PodPopuli Media

Welcome to The Play Date - a podcast where heart meets science, play meets purpose, and conversations build connection. I’m your host, Frances Fishman, Board Certified Behavior Analyst, educator, mom of three, and founder of The Play Base.Each week, we invite you to pull up a chair and join us for real conversations with experts, parents, therapists, and educators who are passionate about helping children thrive. From mental health to ABA, from the classroom to the therapy room—we’re here to learn, laugh, and grow together.Whether you're a parent, professional, or just someone who cares deeply about kids, this podcast is your invitation to explore, understand, and support the beautiful complexity of childhood.So grab your coffee... and let’s have a play date.

Episodes

  1. FEB 3

    Ep 12 - Does It Feel Right? Reimagining ABA Beyond Autism (Part 2 with Jayme Teplin)

    In Part 2 of Frances’ conversation with Jayme Teplin—former Clinical Director at The Play Base Toronto—this episode goes deeper into Jayme’s clinical journey and what shaped her into the kind of practitioner families and teams feel safe with: compassionate, flexible, and fiercely human-first. While ABA is still widely associated with “autism treatment” and table-based programs, Jayme shares how her path expanded far beyond that traditional lane—into adult services, dual diagnosis, addiction, mental health, justice-involved populations, brain injury, and complex systems work. And the twist? That expansion began as an accidental job transition… the kind that would make most clinicians panic—yet it became the experience that “blew open” what ABA could truly be when it’s practiced as a science of behavior for humans, not a rigid protocol. Frances and Jayme unpack what so many clinicians quietly carry: the guilt and discomfort of early training that didn’t always feel right—and the hope that there is a better way. They talk candidly about rapport as the foundation of change, why consent and autonomy matter, what “non-contingent reinforcement” looks like with adults, and how a truly skilled clinician is defined by their soft skills as much as their credentials. This episode is for BCBAs, RBTs, educators, therapists, parents—anyone who wants to understand what compassionate behavior change can look like when we stop reducing people to diagnoses and start seeing the whole human. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Why ABA’s reputation is still tied to old-school, table-based models—and why that’s incompleteHow Jayme’s work expanded beyond autism into mental health, addiction, justice systems, and brain injuryThe story of the phone call that changed everything (“Surprise—you’re moving to adult complex needs… in 15 minutes.”)Why rapport isn’t a phase—it’s the foundation of all changeWhat non-contingent reinforcement really means (and why it matters for trust)Reading the “small cues” before escalation (and why prevention beats crisis every time)The missing pieces in clinician training: attachment, trauma, neurodiversity, and practical competencyThe myth that autistic people lack empathy—and why Frances and Jayme strongly disagreeThe difference between being technically correct vs. being ethically alignedWhy a credential isn’t the same as clinical wisdom (and what should change in training/testing)Closing reflection: Jayme leaves listeners with a powerful check-in for every clinician and helping professional: “Does the way you’re doing ABA feel right in your heart—and do your clients respond to it?” If either answer doesn’t sit right, she encourages deep reflection… and trusting your gut to realign. Connect with The Play Base 🌐 Website: www.us.theplaybase.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplaybase/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theplaybase

    49 min
  2. JAN 27

    Ep. 11 - Success Is the Best Revenge: Jayme Teplin on Neurodiversity, Self-Advocacy, and Becoming the Clinician You Needed (Part 1)

    In this heartfelt Part 1 conversation, Frances sits down with Jayme Teplin, Clinical Director of The Play Base Toronto, for a powerful episode that blends lived experience with professional insight. Jayme shares her personal story of growing up neurodivergent in Toronto navigating early diagnoses, struggling in an under-resourced public school system, and eventually thriving thanks to a life-changing private school designed for neurodivergent learners. She opens up about what it meant to learn self-advocacy, understand her brain, and build the strategies that carried her through high school, college, a top-tier master’s program, and ultimately passing the BCBA exam on the first try. This episode isn’t just about credentials. It’s about resilience, identity, and the deep healing that can come from turning pain into purpose, especially when you dedicate your life to supporting children, families, and systems in ways you once needed yourself. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Jayme’s early experience with diagnoses, labels, and feeling like a “misfit” in the school systemThe private school that helped her “love school again” and the sacrifices her family made to get her thereWhy learning how your brain works can change everything (even when you’re 12 and don’t want to hear it)How Jayme learned to self-advocate early: attending IEP meetings, booking accommodations, and owning her supportsFinding ABA “by accident” through a Section 23 classroom model (academics + ABA embedded in school)

    30 min
  3. JAN 20

    Ep. 10 - Science Meets Soul: Reimagining ABA, Education, and Inclusion with Alley Dezenhouse

    In this powerful Play Base episode, Frances sits down with the one-and-only Alley Dezenhouse, founder of Magnificent Minds (MagMinds)—for a conversation that feels equal parts validating, visionary, and deeply human. Frances shares how Alley’s voice helped her step out of imposter syndrome and into her own truth as a clinician and leader. From there, Alley takes us through her journey: starting in childcare roles, landing in “clinic-y” early ABA environments, and ultimately building MagMinds (founded in 2011) to deliver evidence-based support in spaces that feel like school, because kids deserve to be kids. Together, they unpack what it looks like when science meets art, when data doesn’t equal meaning, and why the future of education depends on moving beyond compliance and toward trauma-informed, neurodiversity-affirming, nervous-system-aware practice. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Why Alley built a school because she hated school—and how that shaped her missionThe difference between “good data” and real learning (and why some graphs can be misleading)The “science in the background, human in the foreground” approach to behavior changeWhy nervous system regulation should be foundational in education and therapyWhat ableism looks like in practice (including the harmful “indistinguishable from peers” mindset)How MagMinds trains staff with trauma-informed care + neurodiversity-affirming frameworksWhy educator perceived competence matters more than checklists for sustainable behavior supportsAllie’s prediction on where education is heading and why the pendulum may swing before it balancesA closing reflection inspired by Viktor Frankl: the power that lives in the space between what happens and how we respondQuote to sit with “I can’t control what happens—but I can control what happens in the space where I process it.” Connect with The Play Base 🌐 Website: www.us.theplaybase.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplaybase/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theplaybase Connect with Allie 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/magminds/?hl=en 💻 Website: https://www.magnificentminds.ca/

    58 min
  4. JAN 13

    Ep 9 - The Work Beneath the Trigger with Rebecca Guez

    In this deeply heartfelt episode of The Play Base Podcast, Frances sits down with Rebecca Guez, someone who entered her life at exactly the right moment and quickly became a grounding guide and trusted support. Rebecca shares how she began as a conscious parenting coach after realizing she didn’t want to yell, punish, or parent on autopilot but also discovered that tools alone aren’t enough when we’re triggered and can’t access them. From there, her work evolved into a powerful, intuitive blend of conscious parenting, emotional healing, nervous system awareness, meditation, energetic protection, and deeper “why am I wired this way?” exploration. Together, Frances and Rebecca talk about: Why triggers are invitations to heal what’s happening within usHow sensitive and empathic children often “feel” what adults try to hideThe difference between being sensitive vs. being empathic (and how to tell)Why language matters (“I feel anxious” vs. “I am anxious”)Parenting as the ultimate mirror: the messy, magical work of repair, growth, and self-trustThey close with a powerful reminder: life isn’t happening to you—you have more power than you think, and staying committed to your inner work is one of the bravest things you can do. Connect with The Play Base 🌐 Website: www.us.theplaybase.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplaybase/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theplaybase Connect with Rebecca Guez 🌐 Website: https://rebeccaguez.com/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebeccaguez 🎙️ Rebecca’s Podcast: https://rebeccaguez.com/podcast/

    1h 4m
  5. JAN 6

    Ep. 8 - Rewriting Your Health Story: Behavior Change, Habits & Peptides with Nicole Pekerman

    In this episode of The Play Base, host Frances Fishman is joined in person by Nicole Pekerman, founder of Health Collective and known by many as the “peptide princess.” Together, they dive into what it really takes to create lasting change, from the stories we repeat in our minds to the systems we build in our daily lives. They discuss: Why willpower isn’t the problem and how habit design and systems create sustainable changeThe power of rewriting your internal narrative (and how repetition shapes identity)Using gratitude and self-talk to shift mindset, confidence, and behavior over timeHow stress, cortisol, and nervous system dysregulation impact health, sleep, and weightWhy medications/peptides can be a tool in the toolkit, not a standalone solutionPractical strategies like tracking, creating friction, and breaking behavior chainsA motivating, heart-centered conversation about health, parenting, nervous system support, and building a blueprint for the life you want starting from the inside out. Connect with The Play Base 🌐 Website: www.us.theplaybase.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplaybase/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theplaybase Connect with Nicole Pekerman 🌐 Website: https://healthcollective.us/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healthcollective_usa/ https://www.instagram.com/nicolepekerman/ Listen to her on The Healthy Pod

    53 min
  6. 12/23/2025

    Ep. 5 - "Beyond OT: Reflex Integration, Nervous System Regulation & MNRI with Anastasia Baikova"

    In this episode of The Play Base with Frances, host Frances Fishman sits down with Anastasiya Boikova, a pediatric occupational therapist and MNRI Core Specialist (Masgutova Neurosensorimotor Reflex Integration). Frances shares how meeting Anastasyia in Florida introduced her to an entirely new approach, one that connected nervous system regulation, primitive reflexes, and developmental foundations in a way that immediately clicked. Together, they discuss: What primitive reflexes are and why some children may have unintegrated reflexes beyond early childhoodHow reflex patterns can impact learning, regulation, sensory processing, anxiety, and motor coordinationMNRI techniques, including gentle tactile input, deep pressure, and repetition to support nervous system organizationThe role of bonding/attachment as a reflex pattern and how parents can support it at homeWhy Anastasia is shifting her work toward parent empowerment and consistent home practiceA bigger message: doing inner work, believing in potential, and supporting children through whole-body, whole-family careAn inspiring, eye-opening conversation for parents, educators, and clinicians looking to expand what’s possible in supporting regulation, development, and connection. . Connect with The Play Base 🌐 Website: www.us.theplaybase.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplaybase/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theplaybase Connect with Anastasia Boiko 🌐 Website: https://wholesometherapycenter.com/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wholesome_therapy_center/

    58 min

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Welcome to The Play Date - a podcast where heart meets science, play meets purpose, and conversations build connection. I’m your host, Frances Fishman, Board Certified Behavior Analyst, educator, mom of three, and founder of The Play Base.Each week, we invite you to pull up a chair and join us for real conversations with experts, parents, therapists, and educators who are passionate about helping children thrive. From mental health to ABA, from the classroom to the therapy room—we’re here to learn, laugh, and grow together.Whether you're a parent, professional, or just someone who cares deeply about kids, this podcast is your invitation to explore, understand, and support the beautiful complexity of childhood.So grab your coffee... and let’s have a play date.