THE PRACTICE PODCAST

BAST AMRON

The Practice Podcast series was created and is hosted by our partners Brett Amron and Jeffrey Bast. These Podcast episodes are intended to be a resource to help business leaders and other lawyers without all the complicated lawyer language. Check us out!

  1. 205. Legend Series: The Long Game Of Building A Legal Legacy — John Kozyak

    MAR 18

    205. Legend Series: The Long Game Of Building A Legal Legacy — John Kozyak

    In this Legend Series episode of The Practice Podcast, Brett Amron and Jeff Bast sit down with John Kozyak, co-founder of Kozyak Tropin & Throckmorton. Known nationally as a bet-the-company litigator and restructuring lawyer, Kozyak reflects on a career shaped by risk, mentorship, and an unwavering willingness to create opportunity where none existed. From knocking on office doors in downtown Miami in the 1970s to building one of the most respected litigation and bankruptcy firms in the country, Kozyak’s story is a masterclass in persistence, leadership, and purpose.  Key Takeaways from the Conversation Starting with Nothing but Initiative Kozyak’s entry into the legal profession was anything but traditional. As a law student, he flew to Miami with a stack of resumes and literally knocked on law firm doors looking for work. That initiative landed him a summer position that ultimately shaped his entire career.  His approach was simple but powerful: Show up.Ask directly for opportunities.Make it difficult for people to say no.That willingness to act created momentum long before formal recruiting processes existed. The Leap to Entrepreneurship In 1982, Kozyak and two partners took the risk of starting their own firm during a period of economic uncertainty and high interest rates. At the time: He had a young family.Mortgage rates were above 14%.The new firm had only three lawyers and limited resources.Despite the risks, the firm quickly gained traction through strong litigation work and strategic bankruptcy matters. One early case from Citibank helped establish the firm’s reputation in restructuring and insolvency work.  Seizing Opportunity in Bankruptcy Law Kozyak positioned himself early in bankruptcy and restructuring law by attending a specialized program shortly after the Bankruptcy Code was enacted in 1979. That decision gave him: Early exposure to a developing practice areaAccess to national legal networksA chance to build credibility among leading practitionersIt was a calculated move that helped define his career trajectory. Mentorship as a Professional Responsibility Beyond litigation success, Kozyak’s legacy includes a deep commitment to mentorship and diversity in the legal profession. He co-founded the Kozyak Minority Mentoring Foundation, which has connected thousands of minority students with judges and lawyers across South Florida.  The goal was simple: Create access to relationships and opportunities that many aspiring lawyers would not otherwise have. Many alumni of the program have gone on to become judges, partners, and leaders in the profession. Leadership Lessons from Decades in Practice Throughout the conversation, several consistent leadership themes emerge: Create your own opportunities. Kozyak built his career by actively pursuing relationships and openings others overlooked. Mentorship multiplies impact. Helping others succeed ultimately strengthens the entire profession. Take calculated risks. Launching a firm during uncertain economic times required confidence and long-term vision. Show up with purpose. Networking only works when you approach it with intention. Advice for the Next Generation of Lawyers Kozyak offers a straightforward message for young lawyers seeking mentorship or career direction: Do not wait for opportunities to come to you.Attend events and engage with people intentionally.Introduce yourself and ask thoughtful questions.Build relationships early.In his words, the most important step is simple: Go knock on doors.  About the Guest John Kozyak is the co-founder of Kozyak Tropin & Throckmorton and a nationally recognized trial lawyer. Over his career he has represented clients in high-stakes litigation, complex bankruptcies, and major receiverships. He is also an author, lecturer, and longtime advocate for mentorship and diversity within the legal profession. If you enjoyed this Legend Series episode of The Practice Podcast, consider subscribing and sharing the episode with your network. Streaming on  YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. We are also in the top ten percent of listened-to podcasts globally.

    44 min
  2. 204. From Appellate Advocate To The Florida Supreme Court With Raoul Cantero

    MAR 11

    204. From Appellate Advocate To The Florida Supreme Court With Raoul Cantero

    In this episode of The Practice Podcast, Jeff Bast and Brett Amron sit down with Raoul Cantero, partner at White & Case and former Justice of the Florida Supreme Court. Raoul shares the story behind his career journey from Miami appellate lawyer to the Florida Supreme Court and back to private practice. He reflects on growing up in Miami after his family fled Cuba, his time at Harvard Law School, and how a passion for writing ultimately led him to appellate advocacy. The conversation also offers a rare look inside the Florida Supreme Court, including how justices prepare for cases, debate decisions, and craft opinions. Raoul also shares practical advice for lawyers on credibility in advocacy, the value of judicial clerkships, and why the best lawyers acknowledge the weaknesses in their arguments rather than ignoring them. Key Topics Discussed Raoul’s path from Miami to Harvard Law SchoolBuilding a career in appellate advocacyThe call offering him a seat on the Florida Supreme CourtWhat happens behind the scenes at the CourtThe transition back to private practiceLessons for lawyers on advocacy, credibility, and relationshipsTakeaway: Great advocates focus on credibility. Judges are far more persuaded by lawyers who recognize the weaknesses in their cases and address them directly. Streaming on Streaming on  YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. We are also in the top ten percent of listened-to podcasts globally. YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. We are also in the top ten percent of listened-to podcasts globally.

    42 min
  3. 203. Legend Series: Aaron Podhurst — Six Decades of Trial Work, Resolve, and Giving Back

    MAR 4

    203. Legend Series: Aaron Podhurst — Six Decades of Trial Work, Resolve, and Giving Back

    In this Legend Series episode of The Practice Podcast, Aaron Podhurst shares the defining moments behind a 60+ year career at the highest levels of trial practice. From the Catskills to the Courtroom The first in his family to attend college, Aaron earned a basketball scholarship to the University of Michigan and later attended Columbia Law School. He chose law because he loved advocacy, persuasion, and the human side of problem-solving. That instinct became the foundation of a nationally respected trial career. The Case That Meant the Most Despite decades of landmark aviation and complex litigation, the most gratifying case of his career was pro bono — helping adoptive parents keep their child after a multi-year legal battle. His takeaway:The cases that stay with you are the ones where you truly change someone’s life. Building a National Aviation Practice A turning point came after the 1972 Eastern Air Lines Flight 401 crash in the Everglades. As a young lawyer, Aaron asked for a leadership role in the multidistrict litigation. He was appointed chair — a moment that launched a premier aviation practice. Preparation met opportunity. On Litigation and Stress Aaron is candid: trial work is not easy. Jurors decide.Judges rule.Outcomes are public.Clients’ futures are on the line.If you are not feeling stress, you may not care enough. Litigation demands resilience, but for those wired for it, the rewards are unmatched. Why Pro Bono Matters He believes pro bono work: Makes you a complete lawyerStrengthens your reputationEarns judicial respectGives young lawyers real courtroom experienceAnd most importantly, it feels right. The Secret to Firm Longevity Podhurst Orsek’s success rests on three pillars: Stay independent.Be excellent at a defined specialty.Protect your reputation.Skill matters. So does character. Final Word Aaron’s message to young lawyers: Do work you believe in.Take calculated risks.Choose your partners wisely, at work and at home.Build a reputation that lasts longer than any single case.This episode is a reminder that longevity in the law is not accidental. It is earned. Streaming on  YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. We are also in the top ten percent of listened-to podcasts globally.

    44 min
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The Practice Podcast series was created and is hosted by our partners Brett Amron and Jeffrey Bast. These Podcast episodes are intended to be a resource to help business leaders and other lawyers without all the complicated lawyer language. Check us out!