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Jeniffer & Chad Thompson

Here on The Premise Jeniffer and Chad Thompson talk to storytellers of all types. From authors to musicians, poets, screenwriters, and comedians we get down to the tiny grain of sand that becomes a pearl—getting to the story behind the storyteller.

  1. Caitlin Rother on her new book "Staged": Murder, Corruption, Journalism, and the Return of Katrina & Goode

    1d ago

    Caitlin Rother on her new book "Staged": Murder, Corruption, Journalism, and the Return of Katrina & Goode

    Today on The Premise, Jeniffer and Chad Thompson welcome bestselling author Caitlin Rother back to the podcast to celebrate the release of Staged, the highly anticipated second installment in her Katrina and Goode thriller series. Picking up immediately after the events of Hooked, Staged dives deeper into corruption, suspicious deaths, investigative journalism, and the growing tension between reporter Katrina Sullivan and detective Ken Goode. Caitlin discusses her transition from award-winning investigative reporter to thriller writer, how real-life corruption cases inspire her fiction, the importance of journalistic ethics, and what readers can expect from future books in the series. In This Episode Why Staged can be enjoyed as a standalone novel despite being Book 2The challenge of balancing action and backstory in thriller writingHow modern publishing relies heavily on reader reviews, sales, and dataCaitlin's experience writing Books 3 and 4 before publication decisions are finalizedThe fascinating true story behind her bestselling memoir My Life DeletedWhy even accomplished authors continue learning through workshops, webinars, and beta readersHow experts—including prosecutors, detectives, and therapists—help ensure realism in her novelsThe real-world science behind genetic genealogy and DNA databasesThe influence of the Golden State Killer Investigation on the seriesSan Diego legends, including the famous "Munchkin Houses" of La JollaThe ethical dilemma at the heart of Katrina and Goode's relationshipJournalism ethics: why reporters don't date sources or assist investigationsLessons from Caitlin's years covering government, crime, and corruptionThe real San Diego political scandal known as "Strippergate" and how it inspired elements of the seriesWhy corruption is often harder to write than readers might expectHints about the escalating stakes in Books 3 and 4

    52 min
  2. Lisa See on Daughters of the Sun and Moon, Historical Memory, and the Women Behind Los Angeles' Hidden History

    Jun 9

    Lisa See on Daughters of the Sun and Moon, Historical Memory, and the Women Behind Los Angeles' Hidden History

    Episode Summary Bestselling author Lisa See joins Jeniffer and Chad Thompson to discuss her powerful new novel, Daughters of the Sun and Moon. Inspired by real women who lived in Los Angeles during the 1870s, the novel explores friendship, resilience, identity, racism, and survival against the backdrop of the largely forgotten Chinese Massacre of 1871. Lisa discusses how her deeply researched historical fiction emerged from personal questions and themes she was grappling with in her own life. She explores why Los Angeles' violent early history has largely disappeared from public memory and how court records, photographs, and other historical documents helped shape the novel. Throughout the conversation, Lisa reflects on the importance of confronting difficult histories and what can be lost when we choose to forget them. In This Episode: Lisa See's Literary Brand  How friendship, family, and women's relationships became recurring themes across Lisa's novels  Why authentic storytelling creates a lasting author brand  The importance of writing from personal curiosity rather than market trends The Inspiration Behind Daughters of the Sun and Moon  The true stories that inspired the novel's three main characters:  Dove, a young bride brought to Los Angeles in an arranged marriage  Moon, wife of a prominent Chinese physician  Petal, inspired by women sold into prostitution who fought relentlessly for freedom  Why Lisa wanted to tell this story through the eyes of women The Chinese Massacre of 1871  The little-known tragedy that serves as the novel's historical centerpiece  How 10% of Los Angeles' Chinese population was murdered during one night of violence  Why historians consider it one of the largest mass lynchings in American history A Different Los Angeles  Why 1870s Los Angeles was considered one of the most violent towns in the American West  How the city's leaders later worked to erase this history  Lisa's theory about why Hollywood's rise contributed to the public forgetting Los Angeles' violent past Researching the Novel  Examining original court documents at the Huntington Library  Discovering handwritten maps, trial transcripts, and historical records  Testing whether Chinese medicinal herbs could actually be grown on a windowsill, just as they are in the novel Chinese Medicine and Cultural Traditions  The role of traditional Chinese medicine in the story  Lisa's personal connection to Chinese medicine and acupuncture  The symbolic importance of immigrants carrying soil from their homeland Lisa See's Writing Process  Why she writes the final line of every novel before beginning chapter one  How the ending rarely changes, even when the journey does  Her unusual reading habit: reading the first chapter and the last chapter before continuing a book Themes of Memory and History  The importance of remembering difficult chapters of history  Connections between historical anti-Chinese violence and modern anti-Asian hate  Why societies continue to repeat patterns when history is forgotten Aphorisms, Wisdom, and Structure  How a poem by Lao Tzu shaped the structure of the novel  Lisa's lifelong fascination with aphorisms  The timeless wisdom that transcends culture and generations

    56 min
4.9
out of 5
27 Ratings

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Here on The Premise Jeniffer and Chad Thompson talk to storytellers of all types. From authors to musicians, poets, screenwriters, and comedians we get down to the tiny grain of sand that becomes a pearl—getting to the story behind the storyteller.

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