The Publisher Lab

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A podcast that dives deep into the most important issues for online publishers. Tyler Bishop and guests provide fun and enlightening information on SEO, media trends, site speed, ad earnings, content creation, site testing, and much more.

MAR 7

Google March 2024 Update: Navigating Content & SEO Ethics for Publishers | Publisher Lab Ep. 57

Join Manny Ramos and Zach Ashmun as they dissect the latest Google algorithm update and its impact on publishers. They delve into critical issues like scaled content, expired domain, and site reputation abuses, highlighting the importance of compliance with Google's guidelines. Zach stresses the value of high-quality content and ethical SEO strategies. This episode is packed with expert advice on navigating the update's challenges and emphasizes the significance of integrity in digital publishing. Tune in for essential insights to stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of SEO! This Week’s Stories: Google paying some news publishers to publish AI-generated articles - https://9to5google.com/2024/02/27/google-ai-generated-articles-news-publishers/ Google releasing ambitious search quality enhancements in the March 2024 core update and multiple spam updates - https://searchengineland.com/google-released-massive-search-quality-improvements-with-march-2024-core-update-and-multiple-spam-updates-438144 Check out the Ezoic blog for more great publisher information and the Publisher Lab’s accompanying blog the Publishing Pulse: https://www.ezoic.com/blog Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:27 - Topics for the week 0:56 - Google pays small publishers to generate AI news content 2:24 - Transparency & effectiveness of AI-generated content 5:06 - Impact of Google's AI initiative on search results 8:57 - Future of AI-generated content for smaller publishers 12:00 - Challenges & feedback on Google’s search quality 15:07 - Impact of Google’s core update on publishers 19:08 - Challenges faced by publishers due to Google updates 23:15 - Scales content abuse, Site Reputation abuse, & Expired Domain Abuse 28:30 - General SEO advice for publishers 31:40 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Manny Ramos & Zach Ashmun Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

33 min
FEB 29

Impact of AI on Search Rankings & Subscription Trends for Digital Publishers | Publisher Lab Ep. 56

Join Tyler Bishop and Piper Lofrano in a compelling discussion about AI's impact on digital publishing. They delve into the effects of web crawlers on search rankings and what it means for small publishers. Discover insights from a Reuters Institute study on news sites blocking AI crawlers and the tough choices smaller publishers face: block crawlers or lose traffic. They also tackle Google's push for quality content and Reddit's unique content contributions. Tune in to understand the hurdles small publishers encounter in a landscape ruled by giants. This Week’s Stories: Half of Top News Sites Blocked OpenAI's Crawlers in 2023 - https://www.adweek.com/media/one-half-of-top-news-sites-blocked-openais-crawlers-in-2023-study-finds/ Google: We Want To Reward The Best Content No Matter Site Size - https://www.seroundtable.com/google-big-site-small-site-content-36929.html Exclusive: Reddit in AI content licensing deal with Google - https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/ How Publishers Are Preparing for Google's AI-Enhanced Search - https://www.adweek.com/media/google-sge-search-traffic-publishers-preparing/ The Next Era of Subscriptions: 3 Trends Shaping Publishers' Paid Products - https://www.adweek.com/media/digital-subscriptions-trends-publishers-paid-products/ Check out the Ezoic blog for more great publisher information and the Publisher Lab’s accompanying blog the Publishing Pulse: https://www.ezoic.com/blog Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:25 - Piper returns to the Publisher Lab 0:42 - AI’s impact in digital publishing 2:40 - Blocking AI crawlers & content originality 10:30 - Content creation with AI & value 12:17 - Google’s Search Algorithm Valuing Quality Over Site Size 13:52 - Google & Reddit’s partnership affect on digital publishers 15:00 - Google’s search ranking and publisher concerns 19:34 - Diversifying traffic sources 21:57 - Creating your content with intent and authenticity 25:02 - How publishers are preparing for Google’s SGE 26:12 - Challenges and effectiveness of subscription models 30:06 - Role of generative AI in search experiences 38:01 - Significance of audience-focused content 39:03 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Tyler Bishop & Piper Lofrano Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

40 min
FEB 22

Changes to Web Search & How AI is Shaping Publishers' Strategies | Publisher Lab Ep. 55

In this podcast episode, producer Manny Ramos and guest Jan Creidenberg discuss the latest Publishing & AI news. They delve into OpenAI's new video tool, Sora. OpenAI’s entry into web search, how AI answer machines might change how we surf the web, and what publishers can expect from these changes. Jan also taps into his 9 years of experience working in the digital publishing space and shares insights on how publishers can navigate these AI advancements. This Week’s Stories: OpenAI will now let you create videos from verbal cues - https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/tech/openai-text-to-video-sora/index.html Report: OpenAI working on web search product - https://searchengineland.com/open-ai-search-product-437563 Will traffic from search engines fall 25% by 2026? - https://searchengineland.com/search-engine-traffic-2026-prediction-437650 It’s the End of the Web as We Know It - https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/its-the-end-of-the-web-as-we-know-it-2ab686a2?mod=tech_feat1_ai_pos2 Check out the Ezoic blog for more great publisher information and the Publisher Lab’s accompanying blog the Publishing Pulse: https://www.ezoic.com/blog Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:17 - Jan Creidenberg joins the Publisher Lab 1:34 - OpenAI’s Sora video generation tool 7:28 - OpenAI’s Venture into Web Search 13:24 - Forecasted decline in traditional search engine traffic 20:15 - Impact on publishers of AI-powered answering machines 21:27 - Adapting to AI in web search & creating valuable content 25:12 - Risk of AI hallucinations 26:48 =- Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Jan Creidenberg & Manny Ramos Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

28 min
FEB 15

AI in Publishing: ChatGPT Updates, Watermarking & TikTok's Search Challenge | Publisher Lab Ep. 54

Join Tyler Bishop and producer, Manny Ramos, as they navigate the dynamic AI landscape in publishing and tech on this episode. They dive into the rivalry between AI giants and newcomers, unveil ChatGPT's latest features, and discuss the groundbreaking move of AI watermarking on social media. Delve into the debate on consumer trust in AI content, drawing parallels with mass-produced and handmade goods. Plus, get insights on TikTok's bold step into search, challenging Google's reign. Wrap up with their thoughts on how these tech evolutions impact publishers and creators. A must-watch for anyone keen on the future of AI and digital content! This Week’s Stories: How competition between big and small AI will shape the tech's future - https://www.axios.com/2024/02/06/ai-big-small-chatgpt-cost ChatGPT will create a digital memory to help personalize its responses - https://www.axios.com/2024/02/13/chatgpt-memory-digital-remember-responses-openai OpenAI is adding new watermarks to DALL-E 3 - https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/6/24063954/ai-watermarks-dalle3-openai-content-credentials Meta Will Label AI Images Across Facebook, Instagram, & Threads - https://www.searchenginejournal.com/meta-will-label-ai-images-across-facebook-instagram-threads/507350/ TikTok pushing users to add Search shortcut - https://searchengineland.com/tiktok-pushing-users-to-add-search-shortcut-437364 One year later: Little change to Microsoft Bing’s search market share - https://searchengineland.com/one-year-later-little-change-to-microsoft-bing-search-market-share-437238 Conor Porter’s News Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt7J02h9vbOR7qEiTAuxxRdw-HPn_zTCl Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 1:55 - Competition between “Big AI” & “Small AI” 10:04 - New ChatGPT memory feature 14:57 - Meta & OpenAI introducing watermarks on images 16:23 - Concerns about authenticity & influence on elections 20:10 - Effect of watermarking on company & social media legitimacy 24:27 - TikTok’s nudge into search & discovery space 30:18 - Bing’s market share & Google’s dominance 31:35 - Impact of TikTok on Google’s Lead 35:43 - Future trends in video & search 38:01 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Tyler Bishop & Manny Ramos Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

39 min
FEB 8

2024 Ad Spend Surge, Google's INP Update & Staying Ahead in Search | Publisher Lab Ep. 53

Dive into the future of advertising with Terrence Timmons, Connor Brooke, and Manny Ramos on the Publisher Lab podcast. They break down the expected surge in ad spending for 2024, spotlighting the Summer Olympics and UEFA Euro 2024's impact on publishers' revenue. Get the inside scoop on niche ad strategies, Google's Core Web Vitals update, and the move from First Input Delay (FID) to Interaction to Next Paint (INP). Plus, they tackle Google's Search Generative Expereince (SGE) and what it means for your SEO and organic traffic. Learn how to stand out and thrive in the evolving digital landscape. Ezoic Blog about INP: https://www.ezoic.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-googles-new-speed-metric-interaction-to-next-paint/ This Week’s Stories: Worldwide ad spending growth will accelerate across the board in 2024 - https://www.insiderintelligence.com/content/worldwide-ad-spending-growth-accelerate-2024 Google Core Web Vitals to add Interaction to Next Paint on March 12 - https://searchengineland.com/google-core-web-vitals-to-add-interaction-to-next-paint-on-march-12-437072 Google CEO talks future of SGE, Gemini, Ads, and AI Search - https://searchengineland.com/google-ceo-talks-future-of-sge-gemini-ads-and-ai-search-437048 ‘Pretty hacky’: Decoding publishers’ concerns over Google’s Privacy Sandbox’s Protected Audiences API - https://digiday.com/marketing/pretty-hacky-decoding-publishers-concerns-over-googles-privacy-sandboxs-protected-audiences-api/ Conor Porter’s News Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt7J02h9vbOR7qEiTAuxxRdw-HPn_zTCl Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:44 - Digital Ad spend growth 6:55 - Google Core Web Vitals Update 13:15 - Google’s Future & Search Generative Experience 22:35 - Google including ads in results 25:03 - Publisher concerns with Google’s Privacy Sandbox 32.26 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Terrence Timmons & Connor Brooke Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

34 min
FEB 1

Kids on Social Media, Online Safety Laws, Short-Form Content & Future AI Use | Publisher Lab Ep. 52

Join Terrence Timmons, Piper Lofrano, and Manny Ramos in a compelling discussion on 'The Publisher Lab' about the evolving social media landscape for children. They analyze a study showing kids spend 112 minutes daily on TikTok, outpacing YouTube, and the rising use of AI tools like ChatGPT by the younger generation. The trio also examines TikTok's move to test 30-minute videos and what it means for creators and publishers. Plus, they delve into legislative actions, like Florida's bill to restrict social media for under-16s, and debate the roles and challenges in safeguarding young users online. Tune in for an insightful look at the intersection of youth, technology, and safety. This Week’s Stories: Kids spent 60% more time on TikTok than YouTube last year, 20% tried OpenAI’s ChatGPT - https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/25/kids-spent-60-more-time-on-tiktok-than-youtube-last-year-20-tried-openais-chatgpt/ TikTok spotted testing 30-minute uploads as it continues to inch into YouTube’s territory - https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/24/tiktok-testing-30-minute-uploads-inch-into-youtubes-territory/?guccounter=1 Kids aren’t safe on social media, lawmakers say. Tech CEOs are back in DC to pledge (again) that they’ll handle it - https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/29/tech/big-tech-ceos-youth-safety-senate-testimony/index.html Florida House passes bill that would ban children under 16 from social media - https://www.axios.com/2024/01/25/florida-house-bill-social-media-child-ban AI Is Changing the Way We Look at Job Skills — Here's What You Need to Do to Prepare. - https://www.entrepreneur.com/growing-a-business/ai-is-changing-how-we-look-at-jobs-heres-how-to-prepare/467380 Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:44 - Children’s social media habits 5:38 - Impact of short-form content on publishers 8:56 - Legislative measures for child safety 13:12 - Algorithm’s role in social media harm 17:51 - Defining YouTube & TikTok: Which is social media? 21:53 - Adapting to changes in the workplace due to AI 26:07 - The role of AI in the future of work 33:31 - Future integration of AI in everyday life 38:00 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Terrence Timmons & Piper Lofrano Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

39 min
JAN 25

Google News & AI, Replacing Third-Party Cookies, & SEO with Authority & Trust | Publisher Lab Ep. 51

Terrence Timmons and Zach Ashmun dive into the world of Google News and AI-generated content in this episode of The Publisher Lab. They dissect a story featuring Danny Sullivan of Google, unraveling the hurdles new publishers face in ranking. Discover the key roles of authority and topic specificity. They also delve into a German study on search quality, spotlighting spam in product reviews. Terrence shares insights from his book summary website, while Zach offers crucial advice on building authority, trustworthiness, and brand recognition for SEO success. Tune in for an enlightening discussion! This Week’s Stories: Google Responds To Claims Of Google News Boosting Garbage AI Content - https://www.seroundtable.com/google-responds-garbage-ai-content-in-google-news-36757.html New research study asks if Google Search is getting worse - https://searchengineland.com/new-research-study-asks-if-google-search-is-getting-worse-436582 Every Facebook user is monitored by thousands of brands for targeted ads - https://searchengineland.com/facebook-users-monitored-brands-targeted-ads-436676 U.S. publishers experience testing fatigue as they evaluate alternative IDs to third-party cookies - https://digiday.com/media/u-s-publishers-experience-testing-fatigue-as-they-evaluate-alternative-ids-to-third-party-cookies/ Some publishers are starting to see revenue lift from alternative IDs - https://digiday.com/media/some-publishers-are-starting-to-see-revenue-lift-from-alternative-ids/ Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:59 - Google News Allegations 2:26 - Challenges for News Publishers 11:12 - Quality of Search Engines 15:08 - Impact of Brand Authority 21:10 - Unique Intent of Search Results 23:31 - Keyword Strategies 26:23 - Social media data sharing & Testing fatigue with alternative IDs 31:15 - Transition from third-party cookies to IDs 39:30 - Privacy concerns & safeguards 40:40 - Tips to make the biggest impact as a publisher 45:20 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Terrence Timmons & Zach Ashmun Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

46 min
JAN 18

OpenAI's Legal Battle & Policy Shifts, Social Media Decentralization | Publisher Lab Ep. 50

Terrence Timmons, Connor Brooke, and Manny Ramos tackle the intricate world of AI in this must-listen podcast episode. They dive deep into The New York Times' lawsuit against OpenAI, unraveling the thorny issue of AI models trained on copyrighted content and its far-reaching effects on news and AI collaborations. The trio also sheds light on recent policy shifts impacting AI in politics and warfare. Discover why diversifying AI sources is crucial in the wake of OpenAI's internal shifts. Join us for a comprehensive exploration of the challenges and prospects in the fast-changing AI arena. This Week’s Stories: OpenAI and journalism - https://openai.com/blog/openai-and-journalism OpenAI Bans Use of AI Tools for Campaigning, Voter Suppression - https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-bans-use-of-ai-tools-for-campaigning-voter-suppression-2308fb98?mod=tech_feat1_ai_pos1 OpenAI policies got a quiet update, removing ban on military and warfare applications - https://mashable.com/article/open-ai-no-longer-bans-military-uses-chatgpt OpenAI Turmoil Pushes Customers to Diversify - https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-turmoil-pushes-customers-to-diversify-d888b253?mod=ai_more_article_pos2 Threads will allow you to follow Mastodon users by year-end, according to Meta meeting details - https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/12/threads-will-allow-you-to-follow-mastodon-users-by-year-end-according-to-meta-meeting-details/ The Internet Is About to Get Weird Again - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/internet-future-about-to-get-weird-1234938403/ Find more episodes and leave podcast feedback and suggestions at https://www.publisherlab.org/ Your comment or question could be featured on a future episode! Check out TheLatest.Ezoic.com! TheLatest.Ezoic.com is a ‘what’s new’ product page to help publishers stay informed about the newest features of Ezoic so that they can use the products to their full advantage and educate potential Ezoic publishers about the products. Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome back to the Publisher Lab 0:16 - Connor Brooke joins the Publisher= Lab 1:12 - OpenAI's response to lawsuit from The New York Times 12:28 - OpenAI's policies on political campaigning and warfare 20:15 - Diversification of AI sources by companies 31:25 - Decentralization of social media & its impact on publishers 41:53 - Episode wrap up —————————— Hosted by Terrence Timmons & Connor Brooke Produced & Edited Manny Ramos

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10/03/2020

Philooo

If you are an online publisher you must listen to this. Always make sense, most often brings forgotten perspective back in front of you. I wish there was more like it
MORE Tyler PLEASE!!!!!

10/22/2019

moxi20022

Give us more than one of these podcasts a week!i love getting the latest news through someone that actually knows what’s going on advertising, SEO, and the world of content marketing.
Worth a subscription

10/20/2019

msimmons81

This is one of my favorite podcasts on website optimization and content creation.
Love Tyler & Shelby

10/15/2019

mmandez19

This is my favorite podcast. Only wish they did more than one a week. Hopefully more to come soon.

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The Publisher Lab
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2016 - 2024
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Episodes

Google March 2024 Update: Navigating Content & SEO Ethics for Publishers | Publisher Lab Ep. 57

Impact of AI on Search Rankings & Subscription Trends for Digital Publishers | Publisher Lab Ep. 56

Changes to Web Search & How AI is Shaping Publishers' Strategies | Publisher Lab Ep. 55

AI in Publishing: ChatGPT Updates, Watermarking & TikTok's Search Challenge | Publisher Lab Ep. 54

2024 Ad Spend Surge, Google's INP Update & Staying Ahead in Search | Publisher Lab Ep. 53

Kids on Social Media, Online Safety Laws, Short-Form Content & Future AI Use | Publisher Lab Ep. 52

Google News & AI, Replacing Third-Party Cookies, & SEO with Authority & Trust | Publisher Lab Ep. 51

OpenAI's Legal Battle & Policy Shifts, Social Media Decentralization | Publisher Lab Ep. 50

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