The Recursive Podcast

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The Recursive podcast is your weekly wander inside the minds of innovation leaders across SouthEast Europe. Each week our hosts cozy up with a digital economy champion and dive deep into their life philosophy, values, leadership style, and personal development. Join us for inspirational stories on how to grow, learn and think big.

  1. Is Your Hiring Strategy Holding Your Ambitions Back? ft. Deel

    Jun 6

    Is Your Hiring Strategy Holding Your Ambitions Back? ft. Deel

    Is Your Hiring Strategy Holding Your Ambitions Back? In this episode of The Recursive Podcast, we dive deep into the evolving talent landscape of Central and Eastern Europe (CEE) with Ivan Valev, Sales Manager for CEE & the Baltics at Deel. Deel is a global payroll and HR giant that has scaled from a small tool to a $7 billion powerhouse, helping over 40,000 companies navigate the complexities of hiring and paying talent across 150 countries. Ivan, a SaaS veteran and GTM expert, shares his unique perspective on how CEE has transitioned from a "low-cost destination" to a premiere hub for world-class technical skills and the next generation of global unicorns. We discuss: 🎙️ How the region moved from being an offshore destination to an established ecosystem home to over 50 unicorns and 12,000 startups. 🎙️ Why shoving compliance under the rug is a business-killer and how to avoid the legal traps of international hiring. 🎙️ Deel’s latest hiring data and the emergence of entirely new roles that didn't exist two years ago. 🎙️ How founders can test new markets in days rather than months, and why speed is the ultimate currency for snagging top-tier talent. 🎙️ Moving away from "boring" admin and Excel spreadsheets to focus on culture, leadership, and human-centric growth. ✨ This episode is a must-watch for startup and SME founders, HR leaders, and anyone looking to scale a distributed team without the regulatory headaches. 🔔 Subscribe to The Recursive for more stories at the intersection of tech, society, and the CEE startup ecosystem. This episode was shot in Vienna, during CEE Forum 2026. Big thanks to wexelerate for hosting us in their hub! Make sure to check their website to learn more about other events they host and the community they are building 👉 https://wexelerate.com/ Connect with Ivan & Deel: Website: https://www.deel.com/Ivan Valev on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanvalev/Deel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/deel/

    39 min
  2. Europe Has MIT-Level Talent. So Why Are We Losing It? | The Recursive Roundtable

    Jun 2

    Europe Has MIT-Level Talent. So Why Are We Losing It? | The Recursive Roundtable

    Is Central and Eastern Europe becoming the next global cybersecurity hub, or are we still exporting our best talent abroad? In this episode of The Recursive Roundtable, recorded in Vienna and hosted by Elevator Ventures, we bring together leading voices from the cybersecurity ecosystem to discuss Europe's biggest opportunities and challenges in cybersecurity, AI, digital identity, talent retention, venture capital, and digital sovereignty. Our guests explore whether Europe can compete with the US in building global cybersecurity champions, how AI is transforming both cyber defense and cyber attacks, and why keeping top technical talent in Europe may be one of the most important strategic challenges of the decade. We also dive into: ☑️ The cybersecurity talent advantage in Central & Eastern Europe ☑️ Brain drain and the race for top engineers ☑️ Why European startups struggle with Series A and Series B funding ☑️ AI-powered cyber attacks and autonomous defense systems ☑️ Europe's dependence on foreign cloud and security providers ☑️ Digital sovereignty and the future of European cybersecurity ☑️ Scaling cybersecurity companies from Prague, Vienna, and beyond Featuring: Maximilian Schausberger, Managing Director (Elevator Ventures) Petr Dvorak, Founder & CEO (Wultra) Rene Heinzl, CTO (CyberTrap) 💡 Key takeaway: Europe has world-class technical talent and cybersecurity expertise. The question is whether it can create the capital, ecosystem, and strategic vision needed to keep that talent, build global leaders, and secure its digital future. 👇 What do you think? Can Europe become a global cybersecurity leader, or will talent and innovation continue to flow elsewhere? Share your thoughts in the comments. 👉 Watch the full conversation and join the discussion. 🎧 Like and subscribe for more episodes of The Recursive Podcast. Chapters: 00:00 Europe's Cybersecurity Wake-Up Call 02:00 Can Europe Become a Cybersecurity Superpower? 06:00 The Brain Drain Crisis 08:55 Why Europe Struggles to Scale 13:20 Cybersecurity Cannot Be Outsourced 16:25 The Global Demand for European Cybersecurity 19:08 AI Is Already Attacking 23:42 The Startup Trust Problem 30:30 Why Cybersecurity Is So Hard 31:52 What If AI Was Smarter Than Your Team? 33:22 Quantum Computing Changes Everything 40:40 Europe's Opportunity to Lead

    43 min
  3. It’s Never Too Early to Think About Your Exit | The Recursive Roundtable

    Apr 27

    It’s Never Too Early to Think About Your Exit | The Recursive Roundtable

    Is the “Genius Founder” Myth Hurting Your Startup? In this episode of the Recursive Roundtable, we pull back the curtain on the real founder’s journey — from the grueling early days of fundraising to the high-stakes world of multi-million dollar exits. We are joined by three industry experts who see the lifecycle of a company from every angle: Gergana Stoichkova, a VC expert and fundraising advisor; Stan Andreev, an M&A specialist with a background at Citibank in New York and London; and Teodor Antonio, a narrative strategist who helps founders shape their public presence. Together, they debunk common misconceptions about "startup freedom," explain why your exit strategy should start on Day 1, and reveal why "chaos mastery" is the most important skill a CEO can have. 💡 What we discuss: The Biggest Startup Myths: Why building a great product doesn't guarantee distribution, and why the "lone wolf" founder narrative is a recipe for failure.The Reality of Selling Your Company: Stan explains why an exit is never "easy," how to align co-founder incentives early, and why a declining business is almost impossible to sell.Fundraising as a Relationship, Not an Outsource: Gergana breaks down why you can’t hire someone to raise capital for you and what VCs are actually looking for beyond a perfect pitch deck.Narrative as Infrastructure: Theodor explores how to use major milestones (like funding rounds) for customer acquisition rather than just vanity PR, and why public speaking is a learnable craft.Red Flags for Investors: How to tell when a founder’s confidence has turned into arrogance and when social media "vanity metrics" are masking a lack of real growth.🏆 This episode is essential viewing for early-stage founders, entrepreneurs planning their next exit, and anyone looking to understand the bridge between building a product and building a legacy. 🔔 Subscribe to The Recursive for more stories at the intersection of tech, society, and startup ecosystems.

    46 min

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The Recursive podcast is your weekly wander inside the minds of innovation leaders across SouthEast Europe. Each week our hosts cozy up with a digital economy champion and dive deep into their life philosophy, values, leadership style, and personal development. Join us for inspirational stories on how to grow, learn and think big.