9 episodes

Join Healwell in examining and bringing context to the world of massage therapy beyond the table. We have ideas. We have opinions. We want change, and that will only come with an understanding of who and what massage therapy truly is. A variety of topics are up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that fascinate us.Healwell is a non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org 

The Rub: a podcast about massage therapy Heawell

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.8 • 9 Ratings

Join Healwell in examining and bringing context to the world of massage therapy beyond the table. We have ideas. We have opinions. We want change, and that will only come with an understanding of who and what massage therapy truly is. A variety of topics are up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that fascinate us.Healwell is a non-profit based out of the Washington DC area.  Check us out at www.healwell.org 

    In-Person vs. Online: The Future of Massage Education

    In-Person vs. Online: The Future of Massage Education

    Welcome to "The Rub," a captivating podcast delving into the world of massage therapy. Join your host, Corey Rivera, as they explore the intricacies of continuing education in massage therapy with guests Ruth Werner, Whitney Lowe, and Rebecca Sturgeon.
    In this enlightening episode, Corey engages in insightful conversations with industry experts about the transformative shift in massage therapy education, particularly focusing on the transition from traditional in-person classes to the realm of online learning.
    The discussion delves into contrasting viewpoints on education's purpose within the massage therapy community. Whitney laments the prevailing focus on technique-oriented courses, advocating for broader clinical reasoning skills.
    Ruth Werner shares her passion for teaching ethics in massage therapy, emphasizing the power of role-playing and peer discussions in cultivating a supportive learning environment.
    Rebecca Sturgeon champions the emotional and social dimensions of in-person learning, highlighting its unique ability to foster camaraderie and resilience among practitioners.

    As the episode draws to a close, Corey invites reflections from the guests on their favorite topics to teach and learn.
    Join Corey Rivera and their esteemed guests on "The Rub," where each episode invites you to uncover the secrets, challenges, and triumphs of the massage therapy profession.
    Links:
    Healwell's Oncology Classes
    What is the Transformative Learning Theory?
    An Update on Transformational Learning

    Ruth Werner
    Whitney Lowe
    Rebecca Sturg
    Healwell Homecoming; Sept 20-21In true Healwell fashion, we’re inviting you to join us as we redefine the status quo, lead with kindness, and have fun doing it. Come as you are and come ready to collaborate, celebrate, and learn! Connect or reconnect with people you’ve met over the years through Healwell!
    Come for the classes and stay for the party!
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 26 min
    Not What You Think It Means- Holistic

    Not What You Think It Means- Holistic

    Join us on a journey through the intricate landscape of medical philosophy as we explore the dynamic interplay between reductionism and holism. In this thought-provoking podcast, we delve into the contrasting perspectives that shape modern healthcare and challenge traditional notions of disease and wellness.
    At the heart of our discussion lies the age-old debate between reductionism and holism. While reductionism champions the idea that understanding the smallest components of a system unlocks the secrets of the whole, holism contends that the synergy of interconnected parts yields emergent properties beyond individual comprehension.


    Through engaging narratives and insightful anecdotes, we unravel the complexities of these philosophical frameworks and their implications for medical practice. From the biomedical reductionism that underpins our understanding of disease to the holistic approaches revolutionizing patient care, we examine the strengths and limitations of each perspective.
    So, whether you're a healthcare professional seeking to broaden your understanding of medical philosophy or a curious listener intrigued by the complexities of human health, tune in to our podcast as we navigate the intricate terrain of reductionism and holism in healthcare. Together, let's embark on a journey to embrace the richness and diversity of approaches that define modern medicine.

    Pubmed "holistic" graph
    Joshua Freeman: Towards a Definition of Holism
    The history of reductionism versus holistic approaches to scientific research
    "Touching Work" by Dr Carrie Ann Purcell
    Whole Health
    Total Pain
    The UK's Holistic Massage
    Alternative therapies: are they holistic?
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 15 min
    The Art of Conferencing for Massage Therapists

    The Art of Conferencing for Massage Therapists

    Embark on a journey of professional transformation with me, Corey Rivera, as we break free from the confines of routine massage therapy practice. Our latest Rub episode invites you to discover the untapped potential of interdisciplinary collaboration, with valuable takeaways from the Shiley conference in palliative care. Dr. Melinda Kavanaugh joins us, bringing her passionate insight as a social worker and researcher, to illuminate the powerful synergies that await when we step out of our comfort zones. The episode promises to equip you with a new perspective on how massage therapy can integrate into broader healthcare paradigms, and how stepping beyond familiar territory can lead to growth and impactful connections.

    Tune in for tips on getting the most out of your conference experiences. Whether you're seeking education, promotion, or networking opportunities, you'll learn how to craft a strategy that aligns with your goals and the event's offerings. From the subtle art of commanding attention and sparking enriching dialogues to the merits of solo dining for recovery, this episode serves as both a guide and an encouragement for health practitioners of all disciplines to seize the day. Don't miss our conversation if you're ready to embrace new opportunities, expand your professional network, and foster the kind of growth that only comes from stepping boldly into new experiences.

    Write to NCBTMB about what they should include as approved CEs!

    Dr Melinda Kavanaugh's Youth Care Giving Program YCARE
    Dr Katie Robinson

    Conference Information:
    Shiley National Symposium
    NHPCO
    Black Massage Therapist Conference

    Healwell Homecoming; Sept 20-21In true Healwell fashion, we’re inviting you to join us as we redefine the status quo, lead with kindness, and have fun doing it. Come as you are and come ready to collaborate, celebrate, and learn! Connect or reconnect with people you’ve met over the years through Healwell!
    Come for the classes and stay for the party!
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 26 min
    Hypomania, Earworms, and Episode Delays

    Hypomania, Earworms, and Episode Delays

    Wednesday's episode will be slightly delayed due to bipolar disorder! (All is well, but productivity takes a backseat to mental health.)

    I'm leaving the description the podcast AI wrote (mostly) intact because it's a great example of writing for SEO and not for purpose. 
    My "sleep and focus wavering" does not sharpen my resolve, it mostly makes me tired and frustrated. Also my focus doesn't "waver," it hyper-fixates. California was not sunny, it hilariously rained the entire time due to the atmospheric river weather event.I have no idea where the "endless cups of coffee" came from.Healwell is totally down with self-care, particularly the kind that means you need to stop working right now.I full intend to help "nurture your career," but not in the next 3 minutes.
    AI WRITTEN DESCRIPTION: As your host, I'm opening up about my journey with bipolar disorder and how it's recently shuffled our podcast calendar. Navigating the unpredictable tides of hypomania, I've found my sleep and focus waver – but it's this very challenge that sharpens my resolve to deliver the enriching content you've come to cherish. With a candid heart, I share the strategies that help me manage my health while remaining steadfast in crafting our episodes, ensuring that our latest offering arrives imbued with the same fervor and dedication you expect.

    Our latest adventure took us to a vibrant conference in sunny California, bursting with opportunities to network and exchange groundbreaking ideas over endless cups of coffee. I'm thrilled to recount this exhilarating journey and pass on pearls of wisdom that will elevate your future conference endeavors, whether you're a novice or a habitual participant. This episode is a celebration of human connection, the courage in revealing our vulnerabilities, and the importance of self-care—principles that guide us both personally and professionally. Join us for an episode that's as much a lesson in nurturing your career as it is in fostering your well-being.
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 3 min
    Navigating the Depth of Touch: Unveiling the World of Professional Massage Therapy

    Navigating the Depth of Touch: Unveiling the World of Professional Massage Therapy

    Embark on an eye-opening exploration of the often misunderstood world of massage therapy with me, Corey Rivera, your guide through the intricate landscapes of human touch. We're not only unmasking the differences between a casual massage and professional massage therapy, but also diving into why individuals across the spectrum seek out these services—ranging from celebrations on a cruise to seeking solace amid personal trauma.

    This episode promises to stretch your understanding of massage therapy beyond its physical connotations, as we scrutinize the profound therapeutic relationships, the critical role of communication, and the essential education and skill of the massage therapist. We'll even touch on the delicate and often taboo topic of massage's relationship to sexuality, ensuring no stone is left unturned. Ready for a session that's as enlightening as it is provocative? Join me, and we'll navigate the societal currents and the healing power of professional touch with the curiosity and depth it deserves.

    Links:
    Kennedy, LMT, BCTMB, DrPH, A. B., Cambron, LMT, DC, MPH, PhD, J. A., Sharpe, PhD, MPH, LMBT, P. A., Travillian, PhD, NA-C, LMP, R. S., & Saunders, PhD, R. P. (2016). Clarifying Definitions for the Massage Therapy Profession: the Results of the Best Practices Symposium†. International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork, 9(3), 15–26. https://doi.org/10.3822/ijtmb.v9i3.312
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 14 min
    Editorial: We Made Our Table, Now We Have to Lie On It

    Editorial: We Made Our Table, Now We Have to Lie On It

    Prepare to navigate the intricacies of massage therapy education with Cal Cates and myself, Corey Rivera, in a conversation that's vital for the future of massage schools. We're treading into the uncharted territory of curriculum overhauls, necessitated by the Gainful Employment Act's momentum. July 2024 inches closer, and with it, the deadline for schools to meet the stringent 100% rule looms large. We'll be examining what these transformations mean for federal funding, the ongoing discourse around a standardized 625-hour training program, and the prospect of a two-tier licensure system that could redefine our profession.

    The financial landscape for massage therapists can be as complex as the human body itself. We peel back the layers of IRS reporting, income misconceptions, and the stark realities of cash-based earnings in our field. Our candid discussion illuminates the struggles with underreported income and deciphers the myths that often cloud the true earning potential within our industry. We're not just talking about the dollars and cents; we're scrutinizing the impact of federal legislation on educational paths and how it shapes the aspirations and career sustainability for those who enter this trade with passion and purpose.

    But passion alone doesn't pay the bills. The nobility of any profession is not measured by financial struggle, and we're dissecting the politics that shape our regulatory landscape. We're also addressing the burnout that threatens our ranks, pondering whether it's the physical toll or the relentless financial hustle that wears us down. And we're not stopping there. Our conversation extends an invitation to join us in reimagining healthcare through Healwell's mission and to lend your voice to this critical dialogue. Your insights are the heartbeat of our community, so tune in, engage, and be a part of the change we're striving to make.

    Note: at about 15 minutes, Corey says "$40 an hour" when she really meant "40 hours a week
    Healwell Homecoming; Sept 20-21In true Healwell fashion, we’re inviting you to join us as we redefine the status quo, lead with kindness, and have fun doing it. Come as you are and come ready to collaborate, celebrate, and learn! Connect or reconnect with people you’ve met over the years through Healwell!
    Come for the classes and stay for the party!
    Support the show
    Healwell Homecoming is September 20-21st in Arlington, VA. Come for the classes and stay for the party!

    Let us know what you think!
    Send us an email: podcast@healwell.org

    Check out our interview-style podcast: Interdisciplinary

    You can support Healwell and the cool things we make by donating here!
    Other ways join in:
    Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Find bonus content from Interdisciplinary and early release episodes on Patreon! Check Healwell’s live and online classes Continue the conversation with a two-week free trial of the Healwell Community Find a copy of Rebecca Sturgeon's book: "Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care" Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring The Rub!

    Healwell is a 501(c)(3) non-profit based out of the Washington DC area. Check us out at www.healwell.org

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
9 Ratings

9 Ratings

Su from Kalamazoo ,

Love this podcast!

What's on my mind is how much I'm loving the "Rub" podcasts with Corey! Corey, you are so funny, smart and engaging. The podcasts are informative, contentious in an amusing way, and enjoyable to listen to. Thanks for bringing forward this talent, Corey. I look forward to more. 💓

Vitality Health Massage ,

Stick To Massage

Too political.

kelley1726 ,

Thank you!

Thank you for sharing this. I was struggling today, but that was washed away as I listened to the words from some amazing humans.
I was able to walk into the hospital today standing taller, with more confidence and sense of belonging, instead of blending into the wall.
Knowing that what I was headed there to do makes a difference, for the patient, staff and myself. I was able to set with a patient after making the decision to stop treatment, to be there, to listen and to talk of death. So, thank you for giving me the tools, the knowledge and for being the amazing humans you all are.🫶🏻💜

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